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Just checked my rear tyres for wear(something to do...)& they are basically shot-running on slicks...

I've done 17000 miles-fronts are both OK.Didn't think the rears would wear out before the fronts(front wheel drive & all that).

Car is 05 with 17"tyres(dunlops)with sports suspension.....

NOT a happy bunny..:(

Just checked my rear tyres for wear(something to do...)& they are basically shot-running on slicks...

I've done 17000 miles-fronts are both OK.Didn't think the rears would wear out before the fronts(front wheel drive & all that).

Car is 05 with 17"tyres(dunlops)with sports suspension.....

NOT a happy bunny..:(

I've done similar mileage and my tyres are ok although I've got Goodyear NCT's fitted as standard from new. I have indeed noticed that Skoda have fitted different tyres to new vehicles. It'd be interesting what the rest of the gang have to say about wear and tear vs tyre manufacturer!!:thumbup:

Just checked my rear tyres for wear(something to do...)& they are basically shot-running on slicks...

I've done 17000 miles-fronts are both OK.Didn't think the rears would wear out before the fronts(front wheel drive & all that).

Car is 05 with 17"tyres(dunlops)with sports suspension.....

NOT a happy bunny..:(

I'm informed that a typical front wheel drive saloon should get 2 to 3 times the wear out the the rears as the fronts.

I'm informed that a typical front wheel drive saloon should get 2 to 3 times the wear out the the rears as the fronts.

That's certainly my experience and rotating the tyres keeps wear across all four nice and even so I would always expect the fronts to wear out significantly before the rears!

Worth running past your local Skoda dealer, but I suspect they'll just say it's a wear and tear item ... assuming they didn't rotate them for you? :D

Chris

Has the car been serviced yet?

If yes, could the dealer have swapped them round to even out the wear?

something wrong there unless they've been rotated. However, current thinking from the tyre manufacturers is not to rotate as tyre wear overall is increased as the tyres re-adjust to their new location they were quicker.

FYI I've just clocked 24,500 and the fronts are on the wear bars. Rears have 4mm left

I think this rotating business is a bit odd. When the original two fronts are just about down to the bars I put the unused spare on, and one new front.

[so far I've usually had a matching alloy spare so that works okay but a co-operative Kwik-fitter will swap them anyway if asked nicely!]

Then one old front, still legal, goes into the boot as spare. From then on I replace pairs as needed, front or rear.

The only thing that cocks this up is when a tyre with plenty of mileage left gets an unrepairable puncture. But that's life!!

I've just done the same as ednmra on our 2001 Elegance estate 110 TDi. The fronts were down to 2mm, but there's still 5mm left on the rears. Not bad after 34,500 miles. The tyres, incidentally, are Pirelli 6000s on 17 inch wheels. Not sure if there are better ones around, but I wanted to keep them all the same.

Incidentally, Kwik-Fit may or may not charge for swapping a tyre from the spare (non-alloy in our case) - seems to depend on how busy they are. I paid GBP19 for the transfer, balancing, valve etc. - didn't think that was unreasonable. And Kwik-Fit (some branches at least) are very good about plugging nail punctures in the tread free of charge.

I think this rotating business is a bit odd. When the original two fronts are just about down to the bars I put the unused spare on' date=' and one new front.

[so far I've usually had a matching alloy spare so that works okay but a co-operative Kwik-fitter will swap them anyway if asked nicely!']

Then one old front, still legal, goes into the boot as spare. From then on I replace pairs as needed, front or rear.

The only thing that cocks this up is when a tyre with plenty of mileage left gets an unrepairable puncture. But that's life!!

I did the same as this with my old motor, problem now though, is the spare is not the same size 16" instead of the 17" :( , at the moment I've only done 6000+ so haven't taken much notice of the wear. :o I will start to check properly now though.:rolleyes:

PS mine are dunlops as well!!

Remember folks, recommendation by tyre and vehicle manufacturers is to have the best tyres on the rear ;)

I never had the problem of a dealer rotating my wheels, but I would have gone ballistic at one if they had done!!!

That's probably what's happened though, but no harm in checking with the dealers about a potential suspension fault at the rear!

Remember folks, recommendation by tyre and vehicle manufacturers is to have the best tyres on the rear ;)

Why?

The rear end on a FWD car does little more than stop the exhaust dragging!

Whereas the front steers, delivers the power and does most of the braking.

Why?

The rear end on a FWD car does little more than stop the exhaust dragging!

Whereas the front steers' date=' delivers the power and does most of the braking.[/quote']

I understood it was because it was easier for Joe Average to get out of understeer than oversteer so it's best to make the front of the car lose grip first. Saying that the tyre place who changed my fronts had signs everywhere saying it was their policy, etc, etc .... and where did they put the new tyres? On the front :rofl:

Chris

My front tyres are down to about 2mm and the rear 4mm after 32k miles.

Was thinking of replacing the fronts with 2 new tyres, but may just swap front and rear instead.

I was told before by a VW dealer that you shouldn't swap the front and rear tyres is there any logical reason for this??

JD

I was told before by a VW dealer that you shouldn't swap the front and rear tyres is there any logical reason for this??

They don't get to sell you a nice shiny new pair of tyres ;) I've always rotated the tyres on all my non-4wd cars and never ever had any probs :D

Chris

Michelin state -

"New tyres fitted in front :

- The behavior of the car will change, because the front / rear balance will be reversed.

The driver, used to a car with less grip at the front, will therefore be taken unawares.

- On a slippery road, the rear will lose traction before the front of the vehicle.

The driver will have no chance of controlling the rear, and will be tempted to accelerate further, which will amplify the spin effect. Only an experienced driver will be able to recover from this dangerous situation...

Accelerating an oversteering FWD car will staighten the car up!

New tyres fitted at the back :

- The handling of the vehicle will be similar to that known by the driver before the tyre change, because the traction balance will be the same.

- Rear traction will be better, and the driver will be able to control and steer their vehicle without a problem by decelerating and turning the steering wheel in the direction of the bend."

Lifting off (decelerating) through a bend is what causes the oversteer in the first place!

And as for Dunlop saying - " Also, worn rear tyres are arguably more prone to punctures, and rear-tyre deflations are more likely to cause loss of control."

I know where i would rather have a puncture - NOT THE FRONT! :eek:

I may be no tyre expert (as in i dont work for a tyre firm) but i drive over 100k per year, I have also done countless rallies over the years, where the golden rule is the better (newer, or softer) tyres go on the front.

I understood it was because it was easier for Joe Average to get out of understeer than oversteer so it's best to make the front of the car lose grip first.

Chris

This i would go along with, but not everybody has no idea on what is happening when they drive a car.

Perhaps even more to the point is that the Octy has so much electronic control [ESP] that you would really have to be going some on public roads to have to choose between correcting oversteer or understeer.

In fact an old f*rt not 3 feet from my PC screen reckons the driver would be more to blame than the tyre or car [assuming legal tyres and correct pressure etc etc.]

Perhaps even more to the point is that the Octy has so much electronic control [ESP'] that you would really have to be going some on public roads to have to choose between correcting oversteer or understeer.

If you push the Fabia too hard into a corner and induce understeer, ASR will kick in, cut power to the front wheels and cause lift off oversteer! :eek: I understand ESP is much better at sorting out sticky situations, but I agree, best avoid putting yourself in that situation to begin with!!! :D

Chris

i dont know why your rears are wearing like that as mine are still at 3mm at 30k

have you had a digital camber check this will bring up problems with rr beam if bent or if vehicle is crabbing

Checked mine as I'm close to 28K Miles now, and previously on the Honda Accord I had was hitting 25K for new tyres on the front. But on the Octy both are fine with plenty left. There again I just go up and down the Motorway all the time.

Came with Bridgestones on as standard.

Mine also came with Bridgestones as standard - just been to kwik fit today and had the following :-

NSF 2-2-2 = Replaced with Dunlop Sport SP01

OSF 2-2-2 = Replaced with Dunlop Sport SP01

NSR 3-3-2 = Replaced with Dunlop Sport SP01

OSR 3-4-3 = Replaced with Bridgestone from spare (previously unused - brand new alloy!!) OSR also put to spare.

Car has just clocked up 26,000 mostly mixture of motorway and A roads.

Thought it better to get it done now as road conditions getting worse.

Checked mine as I'm close to 28K Miles now' date=' and previously on the Honda Accord I had was hitting 25K for new tyres on the front. But on the Octy both are fine with plenty left. There again I just go up and down the Motorway all the time.

Came with Bridgestones on as standard.[/quote']

Worst I ever heard was AutoExpress's Accord Type R. Fronts did 10,000 miles. Mind you, who knows how they were treating it!

Worst I ever heard was AutoExpress's Accord Type R. Fronts did 10,000 miles. Mind you, who knows how they were treating it!

A friend of mine got through a set of Toyo's in about 5k miles on his Scooby! No track days either :eek:

Chris

A friend of mine got through a set of Toyo's in about 5k miles on his Scooby! No track days either :eek:

Chris

I destroyed a set of Yokohama A008's in 6000 miles on the front of an 8v Golf GTI Mk 2.:eek: :eek:

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