i am thinking of doing the egr delete i have a 55 reg fabia vrs this is the kit i was thinking of

 

http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-1-9-8v-tdi-pd130-pd150-egr-delete-race-pipe-57mm.html

 

a few questions I want to know

 

1)will it put my engine light on

2)anti shuddering what will happen to that if anything.

 

 

That should be fine for a ASZ engine yeah.

1) yes it will put your engine management light on.

2) you will notice it's alot harsher when you turn the engine off.

That should be fine for a ASZ engine yeah.

1) yes it will put your engine management light on.

2) you will notice it's alot harsher when you turn the engine off.

 

What a brilliant mod, what else does it do? 

What a brilliant mod, what else does it do?

Increase NOx emissions.

Increase NOx emissions.

 

AWESOME!

What a brilliant mod, what else does it do?

Makes your wallet £50 + postage + vat lighter.

Giving better performance and economy.

Edited 20 December, 201510 yr by hutchysrs50

Lol probably also increase insurance premium as you've "modded" it.

 

I never noticed any difference with the EGR on or Off.

I've noticed massive difference John,

from smoky stuttery b*tch to well behaved car.

Just bought the EGR cooler delete pipe from Darkside to make some space for hybrid turbo which I'm planning to get from Xman

I never noticed any difference with the EGR on or Off.

I definitely noticed the different when I removed mine, feels the engine wants to jump out the car when you turn it off, that and a nice big shake.

On my newer BLT engine that keeps the ASV it turns off so smooth you don't even feel it.

Edited 20 December, 201510 yr by hutchysrs50

Ah true the BLT engine is different so it gets rid of the silly stutter.

I've noticed massive difference John,

from smoky stuttery b*tch to well behaved car.

Just bought the EGR cooler delete pipe from Darkside to make some space for hybrid turbo which I'm planning to get from Xman

 

That simply means your EGR system was clogged and not working, it would have improved just as much if you'd just cleaned and repaired it.

I noticed a difference when I fitted mine - it stopped going into limp mode at eigh.... errrr, a little over 60. Yeah, cleaning the EGR might well have worked, but I do a lot of miles and use crap supermarket fuel, which a few have said does make the EGR soot up faster (mine was full of ****).

 

Mine's an ASZ and I used an Allard kit. The outlet on the exhaust gets totally blanked, the metal pipe goes in the bin. There was no electrical connection on the EGR, just vac pipes. The instructions said leave them open to the air, but I hedged my bets and spun a couple of wood screws in them. No fault light here. BLT has electrickery running to the EGR though, so could be a different story.

 

Yeah, it sounds like a dumper truck when you turn it off, and you can make it flutter a bit if you try to, but that's about it.

 

Personally, I'm no expert, but I don't like the idea of engines having to breathe crap back in. That air's been filtered for a reason, why should we chuck a load of diesel soot (or particulates if we#re being scientific) back in to it?

The great EGR debate!

I personally want to keep mine, just clean it out time to time and fit a reduced gasket to solve the stutter/hesitation

If your worried about exhaust gasses going back in you should see the state of the turbo intake pipe from the crank case breather!

Not any more, catch can fitted.

Personally, I'm no expert, but I don't like the idea of engines having to breathe crap back in. That air's been filtered for a reason, why should we chuck a load of diesel soot (or particulates if we#re being scientific) back in to it?

 

So they get burnt instead of belching out of the exhaust and covering the back of your car in filth?

My car does 30k miles a year, mostly without leaving the Fens. It's always covered in filth.

 

I put £5 in a jet wash yesterday and it still wasn't clean.

Edited 20 December, 201510 yr by StevesTruck

That simply means your EGR system was clogged and not working, it would have improved just as much if you'd just cleaned and repaired it.

I have cleaned the EGR thoroughly and it made very insignificant difference (at 1800rpm)

I keept my ASV in so no shudder when turning the car off.

 Is there a technical reason why mapping it out by just flattening the map won't do the same. This is something I have done with a 1.4 TDI and took 10 minutes with a laptop, which meant not even having to open the bonnet, never mind trying to access those hard to get at fasteners. I noticed that Faboka said "EGR on or off" so has he tried mapping or removal, if anyone can experiment through mapping, he is the man. This would mean any anti-shudder mechanism staying in place.

I'd just do the elephant hose mod and clean the egr valve an boost pipes while your at it.

On my old Skoda I did this and after 10k there was only a slight dusting of soot. It's the oil vapour mixing with the soot that clogs the egr up.

 Is there a technical reason why mapping it out by just flattening the map won't do the same. This is something I have done with a 1.4 TDI and took 10 minutes with a laptop, which meant not even having to open the bonnet, never mind trying to access those hard to get at fasteners. I noticed that Faboka said "EGR on or off" so has he tried mapping or removal, if anyone can experiment through mapping, he is the man. This would mean any anti-shudder mechanism staying in place.

Just pulling the vac hose off the main diaphragm will also do the same. Plugging the vac hose to prevent vac leak.