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VAG emission problem on our S2's

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Hope you had a nice Christmas

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As probably others recieved the letter from the chief of skoda uk, saying they will perform a software update on the 2.0 engines in the early 2016, asked a mechanic friend of mine what should I do and got the advice not to update that when the time comes. He said they will mess up the consumption and make it more juicy.

Whats your angle on this matter?

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Mine is the Elegance CR 170hp 4x4 hatch and I get an average of 420-450 miles with a full tank (v-power only). I'm happy with it, so far but got me worried.

Oh, and Happy Holidays Y'all!

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I'm worried it'll alter things like my MPG and performance and so I won't be taking it in. Unless someone can prove it's to my benefit.

 

The cars been running absolutely fine whilst in my ownership and I want it to stay that way. Also a CR 170hp

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I get a very respectable 530-650 out of a tank full so I want sufficient information on what is happening first before I commit.

Edited by Danny 57

They are not touching mine no matter what crap they come out with

mines a 1.6td, when theyve done 5000 and the results are in ill think about it

I am going for a DPF removal and remap in the new year so they can stick their "Software adjustment"

when theyve done 5000 and the results are in ill think about it

 

Like it, Nuff said.

Fact is, he has no more idea than any of the rest of us as to what the effect will be.

This, and many other, forum is full of rumour, speculation guesswork.

I'll worry about it when VAG finally tell us exactly what they are going to do and what the effect will be.

Will VAG tell us the truth though? They were quite happy to lie about the real world emissions on their cars.

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Fact is, he has no more idea than any of the rest of us as to what the effect will be.

 

This, and many other, forum is full of rumour, speculation guesswork.

 

I'll worry about it when VAG finally tell us exactly what they are going to do and what the effect will be.

 

That is a very sensible post. It is all conjecture until someone can get it done and a back to back test done. I presume the likes of AE and Autocar will be frothing at the bit to test them and present their findings. 

 

Until then, relax and enjoy your car. 

I am going for a DPF removal and remap in the new year so they can stick their "Software adjustment"

 

Does this not show that most owners don't really care about the environmental factors possibly caused by this issue. I'm not singling you out but I've seen this lots of times since Dieselgate kicked off. 

 

I doubt with a remap and DPF removal you'll be anywhere near the actual results shown by numerous reports! 

VAG are being watched by quite a few governments - UK is probably quite friendly to them - and motoring organisations. They do not want to be seen to mess up under the spot light. So this is probably quite safe.

Unfortunately no compensation unless they are forced!!!

Does this not show that most owners don't really care about the environmental factors possibly caused by this issue. I'm not singling you out but I've seen this lots of times since Dieselgate kicked off. 

 

I doubt with a remap and DPF removal you'll be anywhere near the actual results shown by numerous reports! 

 

This was planned for the car before the so called emission bullsh!t started, this was done on my last TDI 170 also

 

And no I dont care  :no:  :D

I am not sure this is all about whether people care about environmental factors or not - as always some and some don't.

 

VAG lied more than other car manufacturers and was caught.

We have a 2.0 TDI, 177BHP DSG and 4x4 which is far more environmentally friendly than our last car - V70 D5 AWD - if you look at the fuel consumption, how easy it is to recycle and even the NOx is lower while I get better acceleration.

 

I think people are concerned about the little information that is volunteered from VAG and Skoda.

 

And if you remove a DPF on a car that is registered with the DVLA to have one do you still pass the MOT???

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I thought that part of the mot was now to visually check as well to see if it is physically there.

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I thought that part of the mot was now to visually check as well to see if it is physically there.

I was under the impression that the DPF is left in place but that the insides are removed?

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DPF removal is illegal but as an MOT is only a visual inspection if the internals of the DPF are removed (leaving the outer case in place) it'll pass without issue.

The Mot test checks for the presence of the Dpf. So if it is there it will pass. If the tester seems to think it has been opened up and welded back he can pass the vehicle and advise on what he has seen. This is likely to change soon.

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I am not sure this is all about whether people care about environmental factors or not - as always some and some don't.

 

 

I'm sure it is to those people who've seen $$$$ on the large lawsuits being raised! I'm sure they did buy it for the environment.... ;-)

EGR = engine choker

 

DPF = another engine choker

Those that are forced to remove the DPF, i.e. where the £1,200 cost of a replacement vs. the cars value renders it unviable then all is not lost.

 

Pay the £450 for a professional DPF removal and if as speculation suggests the MOT test does become more stringent then rest assured that by the time it does (I reckon it'll be at least 3-5 years by the time it is announced, tested and implemented) then the cost of aftermarket DPF's is steadily reducing, much like catalytic converters did.

 

An aftermarket DPF is currently around £500 plus fitting, so half the cost of a genuine main dealer fitting.

 

If the MOT does actually change then this cost will be even less and a new DPF can be refitted if required, by which time you'll have enjoyed several years with a livelier, freer breathing more reliable and more fuel efficient car. 

Quite a few of Skoda customers I know have said they will no longer take their car back to a dealer so the recall can't be carried out on service.

Seems a bit extreme but as a dealer faces serious implications should they have a car in for any work and not carry out a recall that is due. It might be worth getting something in writing that you can both sign to protect both parties.

Edited by Tech1e

They tend to smell and smoke once the dpf is removed

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