Which hot hatch ??

[Johnwg]

Based on the results (so far) of the Focus CT poll I've decided to see how this one goes...........

If there were only these 4 (or maybe 5) to choose from and you had the cash what would you go for?

[Dr Zoidberg]

Not that I actually plan to buy any of them , but if I did it would be a Diesel VRS

[beeftech]

Have to be the Golf, Sorry but an Octy is not a hatch.......

[Dr Zoidberg]

Have to be the Golf, Sorry but an Octy is not a hatch.......

What's that big flappy bit that opens at the back to put stuff in the car :confused:

[Chris GB]

Hi

If it were not for work, then the Octavia II vRS. I like the way it looks and goes and unlike most of the others on the list, it will be a less common sight on the roads.

If they do a vRS diesel, that would be just the job for work and play.

Chris

[beeftech]

What's that big flappy bit that opens at the back to put stuff in the car :confused:

A boot, like a Bora/Jetta/Vento

[ChrisRs]

Have to be the Golf, Sorry but an Octy is not a hatch.......

Youve not got an Octavia have you? IT'S A HATCHBACK !!!

[Johnwg]

Sorry but an Octy is not a hatch.......

:confused: Its not a saloon (such as the 3-Series, 9-3, A4, Jetta etc..), the rear window also forms part of the boot i.e when you open it, it goes up into the air along with the rest of the metal which allows access to the boot (just like on the Golf, Astra, Focus, Fabia etc....) therfore allowing you to fit things such as dogs and kids bikes in the car (but not as much as an estate) ........... always thought that defined a hatchback :confused:

[Moose]

But its not a hot hatch, like a golf is, a fiesta could be, a corsa could be.

[Neo_VR]

Your forgetting one thing.. itll have the fastest top speed of the lot, and probably better fuel consumption on the motorway too..

ala octy vrs mk1 vs Leon cupra/FR

its all down to aerodynamics.. the golf/fabia/leon/focus hatchback shape is about as aerodynamic as a brick.. anyone who has tried a top speed run will agree about the "brick wall" that the cars hit..

[Johnwg]

What's wrong with the Astra ??? Quickest of the lot on paper isn't it ??

(not that I'd have one like)

[Tom_vRS]

I like the ST - and I never thought I'd hear myself say that.

But electric Recaro seats are simply :drool:

And for the price, I think its unbeatable.

Oh, and it'll outhandle the rest too.

[ScoobyChris]

Focus ST gets the best right ups, and the Astra has the best paper specs so would be a toss up between those two Electric recaro's do sound very tempting, and I'm not sure I could live without a heated windscreen now

Top speed isn't really an issue for every day driving

Chris

[Mil]

I agree with Beef here...though the Octi is officially a hatchback, in reality it is not. A hatchback does not have an a$$, and the Octavia has one. Yes, the rear window is attached to the boot, but it still has an a$$. It couldn't handle like a hatch either, given the overall length of the car. It looks more saloony than a hatchback.

[pixi]

I would take the Golf and let mr pixi have the Octy. That's fair isn't it?

[skodaw]

I like the idea of a Diesel vRS, but I can't be bothered waiting to see if it ever arrives -- if and when it does it'll probably be more expensive than the petrol variant anyway.

Personally I don't do the mileage needed to be better off with a Diesel

[andypandypoos]

I agree with Beef here...though the Octi is officially a hatchback, in reality it is not. A hatchback does not have an a$$, and the Octavia has one. Yes, the rear window is attached to the boot, but it still has an a$$. It couldn't handle like a hatch either, given the overall length of the car. It looks more saloony than a hatchback.

isn't the octavia the same chassis as a golf, but with a different shape body fixed to it...?

not really sure how the shape of the body panels would effect how a car corners, can't see a focus saloon handling better/worse than a hatch version and i don't think bengie's estate focus went round corners any worse than my hatch :confused:

[Dr Zoidberg]

I agree with Beef here...though the Octi is officially a hatchback, in reality it is not. A hatchback does not have an a$$, and the Octavia has one. Yes, the rear window is attached to the boot, but it still has an a$$. It couldn't handle like a hatch either, given the overall length of the car. It looks more saloony than a hatchback.

The ford escorts were all hatchbacks and they had a vaguely saloon shaped body rather than a truncated rear like the golf and fabia.

Nobody disputed them , so why the octavia?

It is a large hatchback

[Dr Zoidberg]

isn't the octavia the same chassis as a golf, but with a different shape body fixed to it...?

The new octavia is a stretched golf platform with a longer wheelbase.

The mk1 octavia had the same wheelbase with a huge overhang at the back

[Martin Pick]

I agree with Beef here...though the Octi is officially a hatchback, in reality it is not. A hatchback does not have an a$$, and the Octavia has one. Yes, the rear window is attached to the boot, but it still has an a$$. It couldn't handle like a hatch either, given the overall length of the car. It looks more saloony than a hatchback.

so a car with the rear window built into the rear access of the car and a small overhang isn`t a hatchback but the same without an overhang is a hatchback? And for years i though a 300 series volvo, mondeo, avensis, laguna, mazda6 etc were hatchbacks. better late than never to find out the truth.

[Mil]

It don't look like a hatch. It looks like a purebred sedan. That don't mean it ain't pretty though

[Johnwg]

Taken from Skoda UK's website;

"Powered by a state-of-the art 2.0-litre TFSI turbo engine, the Octavia vRS breaks new ground on many fronts. With an output of 200bhp, it’s the most powerful production car ever made by Škoda. It’s also the quickest with a top speed of 149mph and a 0-62mph time of just 7.3 seconds. And with a price of £17,500 OTR for the hatch and £18,200 OTR for the estate, it delivers more bang per buck than any other car in the sector"

[MagicBoy]

Money no object - Golf GTI. If the Focus ASBO becomes stellar value (say 15k new) then it might tempt me in a colour other than headsplitting orange.

The Octavia is a hatchback, but I'd dispute it being classed as a hot hatch. It's not available also as a 3 door and in reality it's a class bigger than the Golf it shares the platform with - more comparible with the Vectra/Mondeo segment.

[Delcac]

Youve not got an Octavia have you? IT'S A HATCHBACK !!![/b']

So what are you trying to say.

[Wardy]

vRS diesel would tick all the boxes for me. Please make it so Skoda UK

If not, and I had to have one of the cars listed, I'd be torn between the GTi and petrol vRS.

Steve