Dear Skoda community! First off all apologies if this topic was discussed in past, but really need your help.

As today I said goodbye to my car Hoda Civic TypeR I am finally ready to places order at Skoda dealership. Going for Skoda Octavia Combi. My prioritie is manual transmission and TDi engine.

There are 2 similar spec cars at dealerships, only difference is 1,6 or 2,0 TDi with 5 or 6 speed stick, and aproximate 2000 eur price difference.

Will apriciate if someone have experiance with same decision makink, and will share it. Is there tehnical benefit of 2.0? Technical benefits and problems, comfort (lodness) leaks off power.

Switching my Honda TypeR for more like family car with need for big space for transporting some boxes for business. Sometimes 200 - 300 kg in total. Usage mainlay at cities. Prefare if I can overtake without worrying of power problem busses or other havy transport on motorway.

Give your vote for your choice and if can some coments why one is better then other.

Thank you in advance and greeting from Riga, Latvia!

Judging by what your needs are, and given the fact you're coming out of a 197 BHP car, I'd say 2.0 TDI is by far your best option.

The power delivery will be completely different from your Type R, but the 2.0 is a really flexible engine, and is fairly effortless for overtaking. most of the 2.0 units are actually producing more power than is suggested too - many have shown 160 standard. Really happy with mine and I think the 1.6 will disappoint you.

Judging by what your needs are, and given the fact you're coming out of a 197 BHP car, I'd say 2.0 TDI is by far your best option.

The power delivery will be completely different from your Type R, but the 2.0 is a really flexible engine, and is fairly effortless for overtaking. most of the 2.0 units are actually producing more power than is suggested too - many have shown 160 standard. Really happy with mine and I think the 1.6 will disappoint you.

It's really hard to compare TypR engine with any other, as power comes after 5000 rpm, but as I know TDI (had no deasl before) had power from low revs in range we use mainly. In daily drive Type R is way out of dinamic range.

I checked topic regarding 2.0 TDI out of comfort vibrations. Is it common problem or unlucky cases?

P.S. And sorry for terable spelling and grammar!

It's really hard to compare TypR engine with any other, as power comes after 5000 rpm, but as I know TDI (had no deasl before) had power from low revs in range we use mainly. In daily drive Type R is way out of dinamic range.

I checked topic regarding 2.0 TDI out of comfort vibrations. Is it common problem or unlucky cases?

Yeah the power is right at the top end - I had a Civic Type R and a S2000 and they were both great fun! To me the DOHC VTEC engines are among the best engines ever made. As brilliant as the new Type R may be, I just don't think it would have the same thrill! Anyway back to the topic...

Well the octavia isn't the most refined car in the world, but it's perfectly acceptable, and is quiet enough on a run. I have no issue with mine at all. The best thing to do is take one out for a nice long test drive and see what you think!

Yeah the power is right at the top end - I had a Civic Type R and a S2000 and they were both great fun! To me the DOHC VTEC engines are among the best engines ever made. As brilliant as the new Type R may be, I just don't think it would have the same thrill! Anyway back to the topic...

Well the octavia isn't the most refined car in the world, but it's perfectly acceptable, and is quiet enough on a run. I have no issue with mine at all. The best thing to do is take one out for a nice long test drive and see what you think!

Had for spin 1,6 TDI on 5 speed manual. In city it was ok, accelerating on motorway was not as TypeR but not as bad as I thought. ( I do not expect that it will be sport car and accept it as practical and comfortable every day partner for my family). Problem is that we was 2 persons in car, question is what will happen if will have 200 kg cargo. Did not like that 1,6 gear change assistant showing that I need switch to 4 gear and when I did it engine become weary loud and obviously was asking for more revs, back to 3, higher revs and all settled down. Then I started to look on 2.0 with hope it is smooth as is bigger, have more tork. 2000 eur is money to consider will I fill difference in comfort and engine elastic. Unfortunately in Latvia we have 1 Skoda dealer and as demo cars they hav only 1.6 TDI and petrols. Have no possibility to compare 1,6 vs 2,0 in real life. Just hope that Skoda Octavia is what 90% reviews say: one of best options for such money.

I'd say definitely go for the 2.0 - with what you are saying it's the better option and a really flexible engine.

The difference between that and the 1.6 is like night and day, and you won't have to rev it as hard etc, so will be more refined.

Surely if the 2.0 car you are looking at is at the dealership, then they should let you test drive that car? No way would I buy a used car without driving it first!

I've had the use of a new Octavia 1.6 TDI for the last 2 years now which is in a higher trim level (SE spec I think with better upholstery, Bluetooth, DAB, sat nav e.t.c.). It replaced a Vauxhall Insignia 2.0 TDI (average spec) which I used for 3 years previously.

The Octavia drives nicely, it feels sharper than the Insignia and the gearbox is much more solid and feels better built. I did miss the extra power of the Insignia but once I had got used to the 1.6 engine I have found that it is good enough even when fully loaded. Pulling out of junctions can be a bit slow but once moving the engine pulls well. I've done plenty of motorway journey's and it eats up the miles comfortably and economically.

If you can justify the extra €2000 the 2.0 TDI would be nicer to have but the 1.6 TDI is perfectly capable as long as you adjust your driving style to match it.

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In short the performance of the 2.0 is a fair bit stronger.....40hp and 52lb/ft torque make a difference and it's a more flexible motor.

It really depends on your requirements.......the 1.6 is perfectly fine and does the job.....but a quick car it is not. The 2.0 is actually decently fast, even for a 150hp car.....it'd probably give an NA Type R a bit of a run for its money in the mid range before the VTEC comes on song such is the difference in torque output.

it's really whether saving money means more than outright performance to you.

I'd say definitely go for the 2.0 - with what you are saying it's the better option and a really flexible engine.

The difference between that and the 1.6 is like night and day, and you won't have to rev it as hard etc, so will be more refined.

Surely if the 2.0 car you are looking at is at the dealership, then they should let you test drive that car? No way would I buy a used car without driving it first!

Cars are brand new. Dealership have them not in showroom but in importers stock parking. All cars is standing under sky in white vinyl stickers. It's silly but the don't won't to getting them out of this stock just for test drive. Going today to dealership and hopefully will be able to convince them to get one 2.0 for spin.

Hay had same problem. Test drove both. 2.0 wins hands down.

I've had the use of a new Octavia 1.6 TDI for the last 2 years now which is in a higher trim level (SE spec I think with better upholstery, Bluetooth, DAB, sat nav e.t.c.). It replaced a Vauxhall Insignia 2.0 TDI (average spec) which I used for 3 years previously.

The Octavia drives nicely, it feels sharper than the Insignia and the gearbox is much more solid and feels better built. I did miss the extra power of the Insignia but once I had got used to the 1.6 engine I have found that it is good enough even when fully loaded. Pulling out of junctions can be a bit slow but once moving the engine pulls well. I've done plenty of motorway journey's and it eats up the miles comfortably and economically.

If you can justify the extra €2000 the 2.0 TDI would be nicer to have but the 1.6 TDI is perfectly capable as long as you adjust your driving style to match it.

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Thank you for coment and sharing your experience. And big separate thanks that you give your comparison with Insignia as it was choice before I went for Skoda test drive. Now I shore that I am going in write direction!

In short the performance of the 2.0 is a fair bit stronger.....40hp and 52lb/ft torque make a difference and it's a more flexible motor.

It really depends on your requirements.......the 1.6 is perfectly fine and does the job.....but a quick car it is not. The 2.0 is actually decently fast, even for a 150hp car.....it'd probably give an NA Type R a bit of a run for its money in the mid range before the VTEC comes on song such is the difference in torque output.

it's really whether saving money means more than outright performance to you.

Thank you for opinion! Requirements are simple. Get best of to two. Unfortunately in Latvia we have more B roads then 2 or 3 line motorway. Daily I drive in city, distances if we campare with average Europe is small. 50 - 100 km a day. On summer times like to travel and cover 300 - 600 km a day. 3 - 4 people in car and cargo. Plan this summer go for trip to Europe and cover large distances.

In this case main worry is 2000 eur extra for 2.0 tdi. I understand that better things sometimes cost more, but is this the case. Wish to make option which will make me smile after first 2 - 4 weeks of ownership. When first excitement is gone.

Hay had same problem. Test drove both. 2.0 wins hands down.

Problem is that have no such option to test and compare 1.6 and 2.0. Dealership as demo have 1.6 Octavia to offer for test drive. That's why looking for others experience with hope that someone had same decision to make.

In short the performance of the 2.0 is a fair bit stronger.....40hp and 52lb/ft torque make a difference and it's a more flexible motor.

It really depends on your requirements.......the 1.6 is perfectly fine and does the job.....but a quick car it is not. The 2.0 is actually decently fast, even for a 150hp car.....it'd probably give an NA Type R a bit of a run for its money in the mid range before the VTEC comes on song such is the difference in torque output.

it's really whether saving money means more than outright performance to you.

Have to disagree there mind Pispsy...the CTR is a deceivingly fast car in a straight line - I remember when I had mine, an Astra VXR got absolutely nowhere, and that supposedly had another 40bhp!

Thank you all who share opinion. I think I will go for 2.0 as extra power is always welcome and consumption is almost the same, plus tax in Latvia is 93 Eur a year for 1.6 or 106.71 Eur for 2.0. Not the deal breaking expenses.

Thank you all who share opinion. I think I will go for 2.0 as extra power is always welcome and consumption is almost the same, plus tax in Latvia is 93 Eur a year for 1.6 or 106.71 Eur for 2.0. Not the deal breaking expenses.

 

Good choice, you wont regret it! Hope you get a good deal on one

Have to disagree there mind Pispsy...the CTR is a deceivingly fast car in a straight line - I remember when I had mine, an Astra VXR got absolutely nowhere, and that supposedly had another 40bhp!

CTR's are v V quick for an NA car but you have to drive them like an asshole to really make them move...i suppose what I meant by my comment is that if you werent in the right gear at the right revs (in that a CTR doesnt have loads of go or any real torque before the higher end cam change) you could get a bit of a surprise.....but on the move being ragged sure there is absolutely no contest.

Off the mark an older Astra VXR probably wouldnt any real ground on a CTR as it'll struggle to get its power down but on the move/in gear I cant see one having much issue dispatching of a CTR....mapped be no contest....though without a diff the Astra would be a bit of a widowmaker.

I had no problem keeping a newer shape Type R off my tail in my old Fabia vRS TSI estate..down on power but had a broader spread of torque and less weight....gave the person driving it a bit of a shock too....I eventually just let them past :-)

Edited 12 January, 201610 yr by pipsypreturns

CTR's are v V quick for an NA car but you have to drive them like an asshole to really make them move...i suppose what I meant by my comment is that if you werent in the right gear at the right revs (in that a CTR doesnt have loads of go or any real torque before the higher end cam change) you could get a bit of a surprise.....but on the move being ragged sure there is absolutely no contest.

Off the mark an older Astra VXR probably wouldnt any real ground on a CTR as it'll struggle to get its power down but on the move/in gear I cant see one having much issue dispatching of a CTR....mapped be no contest....though without a diff the Astra would be a bit of a widowmaker.

I had no problem keeping a newer shape Type R off my tail in my old Fabia vRS TSI estate..down on power but had a broader spread of torque and less weight....gave the person driving it a bit of a shock too....I eventually just let them past :-)

 

Mine was the older model (EP3) on a 55 plate - had a couple of breathing mods, dyno'd at 212 bhp - can't remember the torque figure (would have been pitiful ha). Yeah completely agree if you got caught in the wrong gear, then there was an issue, but at the time I was in the right gear and it got nowhere at all! Ahh they were a cracking little car too, and the DSG would have been a huge asset. Think there was someone recently with a DSG equipped MK3 vRS TSI pulling away from a new Focus ST! Never underestimate a Skoda eh!

Think you made the right choice enjoy your motor.

Mine was the older model (EP3) on a 55 plate - had a couple of breathing mods, dyno'd at 212 bhp - can't remember the torque figure (would have been pitiful ha). Yeah completely agree if you got caught in the wrong gear, then there was an issue, but at the time I was in the right gear and it got nowhere at all! Ahh they were a cracking little car too, and the DSG would have been a huge asset. Think there was someone recently with a DSG equipped MK3 vRS TSI pulling away from a new Focus ST! Never underestimate a Skoda eh!

Yeah cracking car, I loved the older EP3. TBF who really cares about torque when you have to rev an engine past 8k rpm to get its best...nothing much better than that! :-)