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Vintage Kenwood mixer electrical question

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Looking to identify this little ceramic type cylindrical thing with a single wire going through it and a red wire wound around it. It was covered in heat shrink and is connected to the neutral to the plug.

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Interference suppressor?

I does look like a choke across the input for electrical noise suppression from the motor.

^^  Would go with the above - interference suppressor

Without seeing the whole device it is difficult to be certain; it COULD be an induction coil, to make sure the motor always turns the correct direction, although on modern motors this would be attached right next to the motor (and a lot smaller). it could even be a crude version of a "soft start".

 

Looking at the apparent age, I doubt they had much interest in RF noise suppression; any idea exactly how old it is??

I doubt they had much interest in RF noise suppression

Obviously you weren't a fan of the radio. How's a housewife supposed to cook Hubby's dinner if she can't listen to the Archers?

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Ahh I call it vintage but it was made between 62-76.

This is another pic from the tinternet and it's the black wire on the left.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqV,!hME-Y,Gil)3BPyVD1Qv!!~~60_1.JPG?set_id=880000500F

If it is a inteferance suppression, is this what two yellow things are in the picture? Or can I re-solder and heat shrink as everything else is working.

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The yellow things look like capacitors (or condensers back then) and again possibly for noise but also possibly as part of the motor control, however if everything seems to be working I would re-solder etc.

Ahh I call it vintage but it was made between 62-76.

This is another pic from the tinternet and it's the black wire on the left.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqV,!hME-Y,Gil)3BPyVD1Qv!!~~60_1.JPG?set_id=880000500F

If it is a inteferance suppression, is this what two yellow things are in the picture? Or can I re-solder and heat shrink as everything else is working.

 

Hard to tell without a close up, they could be either suppressors OR capacitors, suppressors will be a small capacitor and resister encapsulated together; these can also be used to ensure direction.

 

62-76 is hardly vintage, that looks older; my mother had a Kenwood for her 18th in 1965 and it looked pretty much like the modern versions inside. That appears to be a Bakelite board, which would suggest 40's, 50's or VERY early 60s (or a non UK version)

 

Having looked at that new photo I am now unsure WHAT it is for; how were the two wires connected, was the coil wired to anything, or just wrapped around the ceramic sleeve??

So this looks like a vintage kenwood chef that has suffered from degraded capacitors and thermal resistors, you can buy a kit on flea bay to repair it, works a treat did one a while back.

Might be worth contacting Kenwood.  They may even repair it for you.

Place to ask is http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/index.php Anything ancient/vintage or even partially modern and someone on there will have an answer. You will have to register, and BTW- the mods expect ONE to dot "i"'s /cross "t" s and write to a high  standard. Sort of gentleman's club, where one is supposed to post in language to a high degree, with little or no topic drift allowed.

Bit pedantic moderation at times, but most if not all members are friendly.

 

Looking at the photo, I'd suggest it's an inductor ( formed not on a ceramic, but on a ferrite former, possibly a set of ferrite beads on an insulated centre) , forming a filter with  capacitors across the incoming mains to stop RF from arcing on the motor brushes from returning to the mains, and would be wired in series with one leg( most possibly the live). If there's also capacitors, the theory is that the capacitors would be seen as a very high impedance to mains frequency ,as would the inductor, but any RF ,above a set frequency would see the capacitor(s) as low impedance, with the inductor as high impedance, and RF. like us humans, will take the path of least resistance ( or in this case impedance), to progress and stop at the PI filter formed by the capacitor(s) and the inductor.

PI, refers to the greek letter, with the inductor forming the horizontal member, and the capacitors forming the verticals, of this frequency sensitive filter, which allows low frequency mains to pass through, but blocks passage of higher frequencies.

These days, most appliances use an X type capacitor across the mains yto do this

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Morph -Looks like you found your way to the dark side. Plenty of good info,and possibly source of spare parts over there . A thought for our resident valve amp maker ( one of the G men) --plenty of bottle experts over there too. And often ideas of where to get bottles( ancient techie name for valves_)

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All sorted now, thanks everyone for your help.

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