4x4 experiences?

[Damocar]

Hi. Just wondered how people are finding the 4x4? When does it "kick in"? Is there an indication on info system or dash? How effective are people finding it? Has anybody found a "quick and easy way" to try it out?

[Nick_H]

Hi. Just wondered how people are finding the 4x4? When does it "kick in"? Is there an indication on info system or dash? How effective are people finding it? Has anybody found a "quick and easy way" to try it out?

 

Haldex is seamless.... You never really know its working .... Until you drive across the works car park in the snow and everyone else gets stuck after 10 feet :-) Or you do a full throttle departure from a greasy island and you just go....

[sooty1444]

4x4 in everyday driving is completely unobtrusive on my 280,two real plus points are as nick said no front wheel scrabble/torque steer on quick gettaways,plant the pedal,off she goes ,zero drama(hate to think what the 280 would be like without it) i had an octavia 111 vrs tsi previous to this,damn quick,after you had got control of the wheel spin,frustrating trying to nip out in a gap in the traffic only to be red faced as you sat going nowhere spinning the wheels,can imagine the petrol 220 superb without 4x4 would have the same problem,secondly driving in the wet is drama free,exactly the same as driving in the dry,complete confidence in the car.havent experienced snow yet,but you are reliant on winter tyres,and you can still only get anywhere if all the traffic around you have 4x4 and correct rubber!! Kevin.

[muddyboots]

We have two 4x4 Skodas...my remapped CR170 4x4 Yeti (Haldex 4), and my wife has a Superb 3 150 TDI 4x4 estate (Haldex 5).

As said above - it doesn't "kick in" as such, it's just seamless in operation.

The recent Haldex generations don't just react when wheelspin occurs, they are also pre-emptive under some circumstances (such as pulling away from standstill, or under harder acceleration) so you never even notice any spin.

Here's a self-study guide on the Haldex Gen 4:

http://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11383/tiguan_haldex_gen4.pdf

(I think gen 5 is very similar in operation?)

If you want to see it in operation, park on some snow, lean out the drivers door and look at the back wheel, and floor it.

Or watch my boring video:

https://youtu.be/Y7ub5dDnl20

EDIT: And here's an even more boring video - same as the one above, but at a quarter of the speed....

https://youtu.be/vpE-IidRqGM

Edited 28 January, 2016 by muddyboots

[Damocar]

Thanks for all the helpful information and feedback! 

[SuperbTWM]

We have two 4x4 Skodas...my remapped CR170 4x4 Yeti (Haldex 4), and my wife has a Superb 3 150 TDI 4x4 estate (Haldex 5).

As said above - it doesn't "kick in" as such, it's just seamless in operation.

The recent Haldex generations don't just react when wheelspin occurs, they are also pre-emptive under some circumstances (such as pulling away from standstill, or under harder acceleration) so you never even notice any spin.

Here's a self-study guide on the Haldex Gen 4:

http://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11383/tiguan_haldex_gen4.pdf

(I think gen 5 is very similar in operation?)

If you want to see it in operation, park on some snow, lean out the drivers door and look at the back wheel, and floor it.

Or watch my boring video:

https://youtu.be/Y7ub5dDnl20

EDIT: And here's an even more boring video - same as the one above, but at a quarter of the speed....

https://youtu.be/vpE-IidRqGM

Bambi comes to mind 

[muddyboots]

Bambi comes to mind 

It was pure packed/polished ice!

[ssc]

Here´s a L&K 4x4, winter driving

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTeJ7znE-Io

 

or as a Combi

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtYgr1mETEg

Edited 29 January, 2016 by ssc

[ssc]

Here is TopGear´s "First drive" point of view on the 4x4.

 

"Having all-wheel drive is a nice cushion of extra security to occasionally lean on. You might specify it and never notice it in years on trundling around. But in a car that’s much more of a polite, unassuming butler than a life-zesting statement, that fits just fine."

 

Here is the full review dated 31 January 2016: http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/superb/first-drive

Edited 31 January, 2016 by ssc

[Zillio]

Here is TopGear´s "First drive" point of view on the 4x4.

 

"Having all-wheel drive is a nice cushion of extra security to occasionally lean on. You might specify it and never notice it in years on trundling around. But in a car that’s much more of a polite, unassuming butler than a life-zesting statement, that fits just fine."

 

Here is the full review dated 31 January 2016: http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/superb/first-drive

Makes the Superb sound so boring to drive...

[ssc]

Check post #8 above Zillio. The 4x4 winter driving shows a car that definitely is not boring.

 

I agree with you though that a lot of motor journalist paint the Superb as a great car but "boring" when it comes to driving. I disagree.

[Bugginbob]

Check post #8 above Zillio. The 4x4 winter driving shows a car that definitely is not boring.

I agree with you though that a lot of motor journalist paint the Superb as a great car but "boring" when it comes to driving. I disagree.

Mines boring. I suspect the 280 with 4x4 and dcc less so though.

[milesunder]

Here is TopGear´s "First drive" point of view on the 4x4.

"Having all-wheel drive is a nice cushion of extra security to occasionally lean on. You might specify it and never notice it in years on trundling around. But in a car that’s much more of a polite, unassuming butler than a life-zesting statement, that fits just fine."

Here is the full review dated 31 January 2016: http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/superb/first-drive

"1500 – that’s the premium for having four-wheel drive, by the way, the Superb isn’t that philanthropic. So the one that everyone will by, the 2.0 TDI Estate with 148bhp and SE L trim, will set you back £27,820. A lot of car for the money, even if it’s not a fantastically interesting one."

I tend to ignore 'experts' who fail to proof read their own copy! He spent too much, time, on, punctuation and not on speeeellling!

Everyone will 'by' = buy

Anyway with a magazine/website like top gear Skoda is never going to really win them over.

I'll just get back to my caravan

Edited 31 January, 2016 by milesunder