I am just wondering if in time we might see what part numbers the 230 is fitted with above the standard ?

Specifically, I'd be interested to see what they did with the exhaust, as I'm pretty certain this could be retrofitted to a 220 unless told otherwise.

On different areas like the ediff is probably impossible ( but I guess that isn't even 100% yet who knows maybe in time people might refit this and manage the coding but I wouldn't hold my breath!).

 

Not that bothered on mine about the diff, after all the car is what it is, but the exhaust could be really interesting as has always been a short fall on the standard 2013 onwards car.

I really like the idea of keeping with a genuine exhaust but with the extra noise, as opposed to aftermarket. Would the price be prohibitive ? Would there be likely and 2nd hand items that eventually permeate though to the breakers maybe ?

 

Might be barking up the wrong tree here but who knows.

Is the exhaust just a trim change from chrome tips to black??

Nope its a completely different sound tuned for the 230, hence different parts, I'm guess its only natural in time the parts will become more common place but even standard 220 exhaust parts are rare as rocking.

I would expect only used parts coming about when one is written off, as most will probably keep the original exhaust to put back to standard. Price I would expect to be on par to more than the standard 220 system (as a price range indicator) unless of course this becomes common knowledge as a cheap upgrade which often shoots up the prices.

 

The diff, I think you are right, it's not going to be cheap to buy or fit, but I would say it's possible, depending on how deep your pockets are. For sure it's probably cheaper to swap your 220 for a 230, than fit the diff after market.

 

Like yourself, the exhaust is a bit of a let down compared to the golf GTi, but then it's the market it's aimed at that makes it like it is.

 

Maybe if anyone of here has access to the online parts for Skoda could check the part numbers for the exhaust and report back?

Got em. As far as I'm told

The parts are demoninated 5e0253 609 AC, AD, ( as opposed to std AA, AB)
and 5e0 253 259 A suffix (instead of GK) accordingly.

 

I'm told maybe a bit smaller also, unless I got the wrong model that is ( looking at the same parts fiche for the exhaust but that could be slightly different car, but the above numbers are definitely 230) . Maybe there is difference between estate and hatch, possibly to explain this.

Also detailed here:

http://nemiga.com/en/cat_spares/etka/skoda/oct/753/253900/

 

Could be expensive by looks of it...maybe just under a grand. Hardly worth it unless comes up used as you say which is perhaps likely to be more common in a few years but not for a good while yet.

 

Probably better to plumb for aftermarket but I'm not doing this until my warrantees out and I'm with a more flexible insurer ! Its just a bit of a roun tuit plans/ideas at the moment.

So back to point one. Anyway you look at it, there isn't really a "cheap" upgrade.

I've heard about the resonator removal for the S3/GolfR. That's a cheap way of improving the noise, around 150-200 quid (roughly)

Not on this posting but on others I've seen people just wanting the black outlets. Why aren't they just painting what they have or plasti-coating them.

So back to point one. Anyway you look at it, there isn't really a "cheap" upgrade.

I've heard about the resonator removal for the S3/GolfR. That's a cheap way of improving the noise, around 150-200 quid (roughly)

 

Yeah fair point. I've heard that can be on the harsh side if you completely remove the middle resonator though so its catch 22.

 

I'm not doing anything myself for at least a while due to warranty and insurance, but it was just throwing thoughts and ideas out there in the meanwhile. But I have to say I really am not that satisfied with the sound of the car.

 

I'd imagine this as a more subtle and modest upgrade but the prices isn't worth - at that level might as well go straight for the remus / openclose valve option ?

 

This is non resonated example, but I think it would do my nut in after a while;) As for insurance, I think you'd be on pretty ropey ground with it personally, as it sounds like its designed with race/non road in mind, just my thought.

 

I'm leaning towards agreeing with you. Although the sound clips are not that loud with the S3 mod, it might still be to much.

One comment I received from a member watching my car was it's so quiet. Hardly what you'd expect from a performance suggestive cat.

Frankly the remus is what I'm liking the most, but expensive option at the moment.

Sure with the fake sound generator it sounds ok (albeit fake) just a real shame that the outside sound doesn't match.

IMO it can be a bit misleading looking at youtube clips - too many variables to accurately assess how and exhaust will sound - you really have to experience it first hand to gauge how loud it is.

I had a milltek non resonated cat back on my mk2 for about half an hour. One startup and drive around the block and i knew it was way too loud and boomy in the cabin and would have driven me nuts. It came straight off again.

Not driven a 220 mk3 but i have to say the 230 exhaust isn't that sporty, on my manual at least.. switch the sound gen off and yes you can hear it but it's nothing like a good aftermarket system. If i had a 220 and was considering exhaust upgrades i wouldn't do the 230 upgrade - it still feels/sounds like a stock OEM system, not particularly sporty/raspy. Maybe it's different on dsg (you get that farty noise on gear changes) not a fan personally.

Sure with the fake sound generator it sounds ok (albeit fake) just a real shame that the outside sound doesn't match.

ok, contraversial comment coming If it sounds good on the inside, who gives a **** what it sounds like outside? I mean, who are you trying to impress?!

I thought i'd hate the sound gen thing, but tbh although i run with it off most of the time, it is good to bring out my inner hooligan for those rare occasions where i have a clear dry open b road to myself. I just wish they'd given us a few more options to configure it - i mean how cool would it have been if they'd given us a choice of engine notes to use, Lambo v12, coswoth DFV, ferrari v12 f1 car etc

Edited 29 April, 201610 yr by rob_e

How else will I impress the youths at McDonalds? As by cap back to front just isn't cutting it! (tongue in cheek joking)

 

I know what you mean Rob, it's not so much to impress anyone but myself. The sound generator is ok, until the speaker blows (like my has) and then it sounds, well not so good. (surprised that it's blown already).

 

So I'd rather have a real note that can be heard (that won't crackle) rather than a fake one, although I also agree that it would be entertaining to have different sound options. 

Edited 29 April, 201610 yr by M12MKD

IMO it can be a bit misleading looking at youtube clips - too many variables to accurately assess how and exhaust will sound - you really have to experience it first hand to gauge how loud it is.

I had a milltek non resonated cat back on my mk2 for about half an hour. One startup and drive around the block and i knew it was way too loud and boomy in the cabin and would have driven me nuts. It came straight off again.

Not driven a 220 mk3 but i have to say the 230 exhaust isn't that sporty, on my manual at least.. switch the sound gen off and yes you can hear it but it's nothing like a good aftermarket system. If i had a 220 and was considering exhaust upgrades i wouldn't do the 230 upgrade - it still feels/sounds like a stock OEM system, not particularly sporty/raspy. Maybe it's different on dsg (you get that farty noise on gear changes) not a fan personally.

 

Useful feedback Thanks Rob. I think cost, and your feedback, suggest this is generally not a worthwhile exercise for anyone.

Might save the pennies for the Remus possibly in long term then as it offers best of both worlds

 

My only concern is how well the engine would work with the 2 modes,

would the airflow of the "closed" valve of Remus be more or less identical to the standard car ( no burning out of valves etc!) and no tuning required,

or would it be necessary to also consider a remap but can look into this at some point.

Would be interesting if someone ever gives this a go, in due course could go the same route (pending future situation on warranty & ins)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391415636287?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

Video I think this is their full system though

This is the S3 delete version. You'll need to watch from about 1m.25s(ish)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucx03HyAQ7A