Hello guys, I've been reading this forum frequently for a while, but now I have a problem myself, and thought someone here might be able to help.
Let me start off with telling that English is not my mother tongue. I hope you will understand, anyways :-)
I'm also very new to all this VCDS, Cars, Skoda, electronics and so on.



I bought a Skoda Octavia 1,6 TDi Mk3 2015 for a couple of months ago.
Really great car, nice driving abilities and great comfort! (Can vouch for it)
My only problem was that when I bought it, it didn't have any navigation in the head-unit.
(I bought it 'dealer-used', driven 3000km - We have an crazy tax on new cars - 150% - So that's the best option for me)


So I bought an Discover Pro navi, complete with display, CD/DVD, 2xSDCards, GPS and DAB antennas.
I took the old Bolero radio out and installed the new one, it went really great. 

The only little thing I had to do was to wire a cable from the headunit to the CD/DVD box because the original cable in my car didn't fit in the display. (Though the pins where the same, only the shield making the difference)

Anyways, i turned on my car and bam! Everything seemed to work; The navigation, CD, SDCards, Radio, Steering wheel controls and so one.

My only problem is that I don't have any sound.
When i try to turn on the volume control it displays the volume bar, but it won't go above "0". Like it stays to the left, volume all down.
I tried to go to the setup and saw that the "Sound" setting was greyed out. 

So i started searching for why this wouldn't work, and came to the conclusion that I need to code the car with VCDS.
This unit i got (from a dealer here in DK, with warranty) is from an Octavia RS, because it displays the vRS logo on boot.

What I think is that the unit is programmed so i thinks it has an external sound system / amp, and that's why I can't hear anything from the unit.

So I needed to recode the the car and tell it that I got a new unit with navigation, and tell the Discover pro that it should use the internal amp.

As seen in the links i found some different threads that told me what to do. Some of them seems to be from the Mk2 model, but I gave it a shot.

First I connected my car to VCDS -> PC (Got a friend who is mechanic, they got the real cable and uses it all the time).
Then i turned on the ignition and tested the connection in VCDS; Success!

Then I went to 19 CAN Gateway -> Installation list.
As I understand it, this is where i tell the car which modules the car have, right?

So I ticked: 37 - Navigation and saved it. (I don't see the "xx - Radio" in the list)
I also got "Sound system", but didn't check that, as I'm using the original audio system, and not the enhanced one.
VCDS told me that the controller had accepted the coding. Great!

I restarted the Discover pro navi by holding down the power button until the display came into the booting screen.
Then I went to 19 CAN Gateway and verified that the settings where saved, and they where.

Then i went to "Electronics 1" and found 37 - Navigation and tried to click on that.
Then VCDS started to do some init, then wait a second, tried again waited 2 seconds, and one more time, before telling me "No response from controller".
I even have another friend who's also a mechanic and tried his VCDS+cable, same problem. So it does not seems to be the cable that's the problem.

And this is where I am now; Everything else works except the sound itselfs.

So my question is: How do I get access to the 37 - Navigation menu in VCDS? (And is there anything else i should enable in the 19 CAN gateway)

Info about the unit:

Device part number: 5E0035020C
Hardware: H44
Software: 0390

If you need more info just tell, I'll do my best :-) And thank you!


Links (Researched a lot more, but this is what i saved):
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/270981-help-with-vcds-in-columbus-retrofit/#entry4442118
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/389082-fiitting-a-new-columbus-rns-510-to-2010-skoda-superb/#entry4535418
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/210073-no-sound-after-columbus-upgrade/
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/241009-retro-fitted-columbus-no-sound/



 

Sounds like component protection to me.

 

The newer headunits have more advanced protection to reduce the sale value if stolen. A dealer should be able to correctly program the headunit to the car if it's not listed as stolen. VCDS isn't able to do this, it requires ODIS and a online connection to VW from what I understand.

 

edit:

Just looked at the links you posted, they are all about the RNS-510 which does not have component protection.

Edited 22 March, 201610 yr by langers2k

The dealer says that it's not component locked.

I have read that if it is component locked the navi would stop working after a short time, each time the car was turned on.

 

You don't think it is because it was in an RS with the special sound package, and I don't have that in my car, so the unit thinks it should send out the sound through an external amplifier instead of the internal one?

It wouldn't be the first time a dealer is wrong... I'm sure I've read reports of component protection disabling the sound as well as locking the navigation.

 

You won't have a module 37, that's for the older generation of headunit. Everything should be done via module 5F - be warned, if your friend is using an older VCDS version it will cause issues. Please make sure they are running at least version 15.7.3

 

It might be worth posting a VCDS autoscan to see what's happening.

Did the RS have the amplifier option?

 

If so you'll either need the amp set up or if it can directly drive speakers (Which it may not) then you'll need to code it to tell it the speakers you have.

Component protection should kick in as soon as you fit it to your car, this will disable the sound - did you have to provide your VIN when you purchased the unit so it could be locked to your chassis number?

 

The settings for the external amp or speakers are documented in the VCDS label files for 5F, easy to find as long as you are using 15.7.3 or later.

 

Also, the Navigation shouldn't work and should lock the maps out as your car did not leave the factory with Navigation as an option.

Where are you located in Denmark?