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Self sourced induction kit for 2.0tfsi? big savings?

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Hi all i was interested in how much it would cost to source your own parts to make up an induction kit for 2.0tfsi as i have done this before with another brand of car but much less piping needed.

 

This is what i have come up with

 

 

1x 90mm rubber necked air filter from Ramair = £35

2x 90mm 90 degree bend silicone pipes from Ramair = £19

1x 90mm 50cm long aluminium piping from Ebay to be cut in half for joins = £8

1x silicone reducer 90mm-70mm for MAF to aluminium pipe from Ebay = £9

 

Total £71 as opposed to the newly prices ram air system being £150

 

the only difficult part i see would be removing and cutting the MAF senser pipe but looking at this video doesnt look too bad

 

Thoughts?

 

P.S. reason i used 90mm air filter is because i have an already new one, smaller size could be used along with piping size 

Edited by lDanl

It's not a bad idea but there are bargains out there. I paid £50 del for my intake Inc heatshield.

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Ye I thought you said that before where from? Second hand or something

It will only cost me about 40 quid to anyway as I already have the filter

Yeah 2nd hand. Don't forget to factor in the heatshield costs. I still need to order the retch one for above the turbo

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Yeah 2nd hand. Don't forget to factor in the heatshield costs. I still need to order the retch one for above the turbo

 

 

yes the heat shield is the only problem, to be honest i'd probably run without because im not sure if the heatshields designed for this are too useful

Uber useful. Keeps warm air away from the filter and the other stops or reduces the heat from the turbo straight under the pipework.

I run a cold air feed in place of a fog light and I've also made a headlight intake

Uber useful. Keeps warm air away from the filter and the other stops or reduces the heat from the turbo straight under the pipework.

I run a cold air feed in place of a fog light and I've also made a headlight intake

 

Agree! All these CAI's are ment to feed engine with fresh air, so as SNH said the heatshield is very important, you can even use your standard airbox but chop it at the bottom side and bring a CAI (pipe) from front bumper to the bottom of the airbox. It will be a nice DIY.

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Uber useful. Keeps warm air away from the filter and the other stops or reduces the heat from the turbo straight under the pipework.

I run a cold air feed in place of a fog light and I've also made a headlight intake

 

 

oh i know the idea behind it but i just dont think its a very good design with an open top, i only believe fully enclosed cases to be actually beneficial, linked with a cold air feed ofcourse

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Agree! All these CAI's are ment to feed engine with fresh air, so as SNH said the heatshield is very important, you can even use your standard airbox but chop it at the bottom side and bring a CAI (pipe) from front bumper to the bottom of the airbox. It will be a nice DIY.

 

 

originally i wanted to just get rid of the airbox filter and use the original intake system except with a big cone filter on the end but i thought of all the dirt and cack which would be between the cone filter and empty air box and thought against it

originally i wanted to just get rid of the airbox filter and use the original intake system except with a big cone filter on the end but i thought of all the dirt and cack which would be between the cone filter and empty air box and thought against it

Are you thinking of remapping the car? Is it remapped? Take a Vagcom and scan the maf block so you can see any differences. With cone filter, with panel filter, with cai, without it, so will know what is best.Try all possibilities.  Of course all these apply as long as you don't want to buy a complete kit (even used) and you want to make a nice DYI as long as you can get your hands dirty.

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Are you thinking of remapping the car? Is it remapped? Take a Vagcom and scan the maf block so you can see any differences. With cone filter, with panel filter, with cai, without it, so will know what is best.Try all possibilities.  Of course all these apply as long as you don't want to buy a complete kit (even used) and you want to make a nice DYI as long as you can get your hands dirty.

 

 

yes my car is already mapped to 240bhp and generates a lot of intake noise which makes me think it needs improvement

 

edit : with an uprated panel filter 

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i do plan on doing this by the way (sourcing parts) i just want to have a good look at the MAF pipe to see what exactly needs to be done with it

yes my car is already mapped to 240bhp and generates a lot of intake noise which makes me think it needs improvement

 

edit : with an uprated panel filter 

 

Since you already have the panel, have you read your maf gramms? The noise will always be there, try a CAI from bumper to airbox initially, get the readings and then try to make your own intake pipe.

 

Don't forget the heatshield if you decide to remove the airbox.

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The bonnet sits flush and acts as a lid when it's shut ;)

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Well here's an update for me, i decided to buy a full ram air induction kit off the site, and i'm sort of glad i did i didn't realise how good the pipe work and how flush the fitting was.

To anyone wondering the kit fits perfectly in the engine bay using already existing bolt holes to hold it in its rather a very good way of using the space provided, plus the pipe work is very good quality and painted black for the extra cooling.

 

now to the important part, i did not realise on how greatly this would affect the car in sound and performance, put it this way i was originally thinking of adding a blow off valve now i really don't want one! the noise is incredible, engine roar isn't affected but the turbo noise is just incredible even when the windows are shut! The pull all over the rev range feels better and top end is definitely improved however i think i may need a diverter valve replacement which i have ordered.

 

i am starting to think the kit is priced well, making a kit up yourself would cause so many rattles, so much cutting down and so gluing i don't think you will ever be satisfied taking on this route.

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On 17/06/2016 at 17:53, lDanl said:

Well here's an update for me, i decided to buy a full ram air induction kit off the site, and i'm sort of glad i did i didn't realise how good the pipe work and how flush the fitting was.

To anyone wondering the kit fits perfectly in the engine bay using already existing bolt holes to hold it in its rather a very good way of using the space provided, plus the pipe work is very good quality and painted black for the extra cooling.

 

now to the important part, i did not realise on how greatly this would affect the car in sound and performance, put it this way i was originally thinking of adding a blow off valve now i really don't want one! the noise is incredible, engine roar isn't affected but the turbo noise is just incredible even when the windows are shut! The pull all over the rev range feels better and top end is definitely improved however i think i may need a diverter valve replacement which i have ordered.

 

i am starting to think the kit is priced well, making a kit up yourself would cause so many rattles, so much cutting down and so gluing i don't think you will ever be satisfied taking on this route.

 

Did you go for the 70mm or the 90mm big bore kit??

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48 minutes ago, ~AlanVRS~ said:

 

Did you go for the 70mm or the 90mm big bore kit??



Sorry, you're digging up history :D I've had a 350z for the past 2 years, I'll see if I can dig up the Email but 70mm rings a bell

Can't find the email order bu ti believe it was this one, was very good 
https://www.ramair-filters.co.uk/shop/automotive/induction-kits-automotive/jet-stream-induction-kit-automotive/vag-jetstream-induction-kits/performance-stage-2-oversized-air-filter-hard-pipe-induction-kit-audiseatskodavw-2-0-tfsi-k03-k04/

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35 minutes ago, lDanl said:



Sorry, you're digging up history :D I've had a 350z for the past 2 years, I'll see if I can dig up the Email but 70mm rings a bell

Can't find the email order bu ti believe it was this one, was very good 
https://www.ramair-filters.co.uk/shop/automotive/induction-kits-automotive/jet-stream-induction-kit-automotive/vag-jetstream-induction-kits/performance-stage-2-oversized-air-filter-hard-pipe-induction-kit-audiseatskodavw-2-0-tfsi-k03-k04/

I know mate sorry!! I'm just wondering how much difference there is between the 90mm and 70mm before ordering 🙂 that's the 90mm one you've linked, would just save me about £40+ if the 70mm worked just as well. Will go ahead with the big boy 🙂

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3 minutes ago, ~AlanVRS~ said:

I know mate sorry!! I'm just wondering how much difference there is between the 90mm and 70mm before ordering 🙂 that's the 90mm one you've linked, would just save me about £40+ if the 70mm worked just as well. Will go ahead with the big boy 🙂

 

I don't think the actual filter makes much a difference to the noise, it's the removal of all the sound deadening off the turbo that creates the mad noises

On 16/12/2019 at 16:18, lDanl said:

 

I don't think the actual filter makes much a difference to the noise, it's the removal of all the sound deadening off the turbo that creates the mad noises

Ordered the oversized one just for good measure! 😂 thanks for the help mate

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