Hey all,

I've been thinking about an upgraded stereo for some time now and finally decided to look into it a bit more. I would like Sat Nav and Bluetooth but not 100% on the most suitable system. You guys know far more than me but I am interested in the Amundsen+ or Columbus, I'm also aware of battery drain with my car being an 05/55 reg. What's the difference between RNS 310 and 315? My current stereo is the ****e Stream so no bells or whistles, all suggestions welcome!

Cheers.

Edited 22 June, 201610 yr by billywhiz040480

I personally would go for the Columbus.

 

It's got a bigger touchscreen, has internal storage for maps and MP3s, plays better with pre-FL cars (works with maxidot- can be switched between DDP and BAP CAN protocols) and can be updated without having to buy the expensive original SD cards like you have to on the RNS 310/315.

 

The advantage the RNS 315 potentially has over the Columbus is it is possible to get one with Bluetooth and DAB integrated (although the Columbus was also available with DAB and a Bluetooth module can be added pretty easily and inexpensively).

Slightly different unit, is it any good?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-SKODA-OCTAVIA-Car-DVD-Player-GPS-3G-Radio-Bluetooth-Canbus-DVR-DTV-IN-7699EU/231799420612?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133651%26meid%3D9c2a23d3f23a4ecd811d44f07831b3e2%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D262024129129

 

Thanks

I personally would go for the Columbus.

It's got a bigger touchscreen, has internal storage for maps and MP3s, plays better with pre-FL cars (works with maxidot- can be switched between DDP and BAP CAN protocols) and can be updated without having to buy the expensive original SD cards like you have to on the RNS 310/315.

The advantage the RNS 315 potentially has over the Columbus is it is possible to get one with Bluetooth and DAB integrated (although the Columbus was also available with DAB and a Bluetooth module can be added pretty easily and inexpensively).

This has crossed my mind and I have been looking. I'd jump at a good priced one.

Amundsen is based on RNS 310

Amundsen+ is based on RNS 315

 

The '+' has no bearing on the abilities of the unit.

 

RNS315 has NAV, and can have a combination of BT/DAB/RVC.

BT is shown as a MAC address on the side, that's *NOT* 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00

DAB is a round black connector on the back

RVC is a rectangular connector on the back

 

RNS 510/Columbus is mostly NAV, although the later and more expensive ones can have DAB. (Black round connector)

BT will always be an external unit.

RVC connector is usually there too.

 

RNS31x are not cheap to update the maps.

RNS510...er, er, er, um......shhhhh

 

RNS31x is BAP only, so only integrates fully in FL cards. In pre-FL you lose the climate display, the PDC display (but not the beeps), use of MFSW and the MaxiDot connection.

RNS510 will swing both ways, the most useful being MFSW and MaxiDot usage.

 

 

 

There was an RNS315 (BT/DAB/DVC+GPS+Mic) sold, on here, yesterday for £240 delivered.

The RNS310 and RNS315 although very similar to look at are completely different internally and take different versions of maps.

 

The RNS310 never had DAB, BT or RVC ports.

So, the Amundsen+ is the RNS 315 and could have all what I need? I'm mainly after touch screen, sat nav, GPS, Bluetooth coz I don't have steering wheel controls or reverse parking sensors, won't the Columbus be overkill for the basic controls on my 2005/55 Octy Sport?

There was an RNS315 (BT/DAB/DVC+GPS+Mic) sold, on here, yesterday for £240 delivered.

Gutted

I personally would go for the Columbus.

 

 Yep. Having played with an Amundsen Plus a few times, I'm surprised why anyone would want one. Other than the onboard bluetooth, everything is smaller, less functional, and even though it boots up faster it's not worth it for me.

So, the Amundsen+ is the RNS 315 and could have all what I need? I'm mainly after touch screen, sat nav, GPS, Bluetooth coz I don't have steering wheel controls or reverse parking sensors, won't the Columbus be overkill for the basic controls on my 2005/55 Octy Sport?

 

RNS315 does have a touch-screen, but most of the functionality can be used through the "real" buttons. (I certainly found it easier than the touch-screen.) If all you want is NAV and BT then just make sure you get the GPS unit, the mic (dead easy to install both bits) and a MAC address other than lots of 0's ;)

 

And yes, other than the colour of the menus, and the boot logo, RNS315 and Amundsen+ are the same.

 

Columbus is quite happy without MFSW and MaxiDot, they're not essential to it's use.

 

 

 

Gutted

 

Sorry. It was out there for less than 2 hours.

 I'm surprised why anyone would want one.

 

Cheaper than getting Columbus. You can get everything in one box for less than £300.

 

DAB Columbus' will set you back £700 on ebay, then you'll need to buy the BT too.

There is this non-DAB, for anyone who's interested (NOT MINE):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Seat-RNS-510-Sat-nav-head-unit-with-maps-disc-antenna-/262481398626?hash=item3d1d1c4b62:g:KPoAAOSwvg9XXcJ~

Not a bad deal £330......still needs the BT though.

 

 

I do agree the Columbus/BT combination is functionaly far better though......hence having sold the RNS315 instead ;)

The Seat Media systems are all old tech, early lcd screens, small hard drives (30Gb) and low hardware numbers. Also, they have no SD card reader.

The Seat Media systems are all old tech, early lcd screens, small hard drives (30Gb) and low hardware numbers. Also, they have no SD card reader.

 

Something learned :)

Thread revival! I'm now happily back to Skoda ownership in a 2012 Fabia. It only has the basic RCD 310 head unit so I'm either looking to get an aftermarket double din or potentially an RNS 310/315.

 

Other than nav, the main thing I want is to be able to stream music via Bluetooth and skip tracks on the screen as aux doesn't allow this. Does anyone know if an OEM unit is capable of this, and if so, which one? Alternatively I might just get something aftermarket with Apple CarPlay, but I'd rather go OEM if I can. Thanks!

 

Edit: I'm open to any of the Skoda touch screen units as long as the cost is ideally around £300 all in with any BT adaptors if required. 510/Columbus could fit the bill potentially!

Edited 26 February, 20188 yr by somnambulist

Yes, but you need to check.

 

RNS 310/315 (aka Amundsen/Amundsen+) *can* have Bluetooth, they *can* have Bluetooth that's not been activated too. If you look at one of the stickers (right-hand side I think - it's been a while) there will be a "MAC Address" and looks like 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00. If it is all 0's then the unit does not have Bluetooth. If it's a mixture of numbers and letters (A-F) then it will have Bluetooth. However there was a load of units shipped with the Bluetooth not activated.....you'd need someone with VCDS to activate it for you. There is no "pop it open and pop in a board" option.

 

If you want to update the maps on these units, be prepared to part with an arm and a leg though. :( :(

Hello all, I am new here and I want some help / information about Amundsen+.

 

I have preFL 2007 years Octavia, I have fitted Amundsen+. Radio works perfect, bluetooth, navigation and etc, but I can not connect into it with VCDS.  37 block navigation cant be acceced. Gateway shows DTCs but cant enter it. Gateway with K letter, no battery drain. What can be wrong? Thanks.

It's not going to work I doubt. The Amundsen + unit uses BAP protocol communications to talk to the car, and your car uses DDP protocol. Essentially, they don't communicate.

 

If you had a Columbus then you can use either protocol by selection with vcds, but the Amundsen + doesn't I'm afraid.

Yes I know about protocols. But is that for all who uses this radio with BAP can not access unit with diagnostic? I have read that there is problems with sound and so on, but people connect via VCDS and change settings.

Got an autoscan?

Yea, I will post tomorrow.

Here is my full scan. Since I have Passat B6 in da house with VW RNS315 I have tried switch radios. In Skoda with VW RNS315 problem the same. No Response From Controller...

 

Monday,02,April,2018,12:25:46:00001
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
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Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 76

VIN: TMBKS61Z678023376   Mileage: 207740km-129083miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LB    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  9251  
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3965172
   Coding: 0000172
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 6ADAFA34457FE81634-803E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-614-517-MK60AT.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AD    HW: 1K0 614 517 AD
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60-AT 0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004737
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 69D885384079E30E3D-803C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1Z0 907 044 J
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 084 0305  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3D7001686471AFAEA1-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000004590368
   Coding: F1888F03000414010A0000000000000000197F075C0000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 6CD6FC2C4F8BF62646-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 251106 022  0601  
   Coding: 00055223
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AE  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     151106 014  1201  
   Coding: 00471077
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AA    HW: 1K0 909 605 AA
   Component: Q2 AIRBAG VW8   027 0900  
   Revision: 11027000    Serial number: 003B5D10JDZE  
   Coding: 0020786
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 6BD4FF304A85F11E4F-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME15021C091

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME150316693

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0B470D5FM

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0C57445CH

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 74E6E44C17BB2EE69E-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 842 D    HW: 1Z0 920 842 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1612  
   Revision: V1612036    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3965172
   Coding: 0003101
   Shop #: WSC 07746 746 80536
   VCID: 387E107C4B538A8672-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H04 0020  
   Revision:   H04 02    Serial number: 26070602000399
   Coding: BD3F074807002302
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 2F6C2B20BE1D4D3E23-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 L
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      0116  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 36621E4441477CF660-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 842 D    HW: 1Z0 920 842 D
   Component: IMMO            VD1 1612  
   Revision: V1612036    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3965172
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 387E107C4B538A8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0954  
   Coding: 0000246
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 387E107C4B538A8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 3466244C573B6EE65E-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0203  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 98801A085283007F3F02050560084F02007C00
   Shop #: WSC 00619 995 21501
   VCID: 0304B7904215195E97-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0943  
   Coding: 0000246
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 397815787059938E8D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J    HW: 1K0 959 703 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0907  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 377C1340464D85FE7B-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J    HW: 1K0 959 704 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0907  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 387E107C4B538A8672-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 1Z0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 919 283 B    HW: 1Z0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H04 0020  
   Coding: 0000011
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3D7001686471AFAEA1-8068

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:31)--------------------------

 

Then it sounds like a faulty unit. Just check the pins in the Quadlock connector on the Amundsen + unit and make sure the pins are all present and not bent out of place. I've seen bent pins cause problems before where they don't hit the hole in the cars Quadlock block.