OS2 Rocks Guys, you should all be running warp

Various members of the extended family have owned i4, i4S and iPad Air; none of them could connect to non iDevices to share files/photos.

A friend as iPad 2 and iPad3, both have issues using Amazon due to a known Safari bug that hasnt been fixed in several updates.

Apple are renowned for taking standards, and screwing around with them on their devices, so they dont work properly with other peoples devices, in much the same way M$ screwed around with web standards back in the days of IE4-7; to try and stop people using 3rd party browsers/web dev kits.

The adapter you are talking about sounds something similar to the Android USB OTG standard, I have two adapters for that, they cost me 99p each (inc P&P), and I can plug any USB device I like into them. A few weeks ago (at the Upton Blues Festival), I used one to let my daughter play films on her tablet - as she has managed to break the microSD slot; pushed the adapter onto a 128Gb Ukey loaded with Disney films and away she went.

OK, I get the lie of the land now. Your a die hard Apple hater Not sure why people hate other brands. I buy whatever I like, & mix and match depending on what's hot or not. Android is fine, just not for me at the moment.

My Dad is similar to you, really doesn't like it. Goes on about various aspects of what gets his goat about iOS, then I see him having similar or worse problems with his Android phone. Apparently that's OK, he'll find a solution. Might take a few day of blood, sweat and tears..........

Edited 2 August, 20169 yr by 999pooch

Doesn't support A2DP or Bluetooth file transfer though.

Pretty sure the iPhone has supported A2DP since iOS3?

OK, I get the lie of the land now. Your a die hard Apple hater Not sure why people hate other brands. I buy whatever I like, & mix and match depending on what's hot or not. Android is fine, just not for me at the moment.

My Dad is similar to you, really doesn't like it. Goes on about various aspects of what gets his goat about iOS, then I see him having similar or worse problems with his Android phone. Apparently that's OK, he'll find a solution. Might take a few day of blood, sweat and tears..........

 

I am now; I have issues with Android - I find it still too restrictive after years of doing what I want with various flavours of Windows; but compared to the IOS Kindergarten........

 

Pretty sure the iPhone has supported A2DP since iOS3?

 

Well it wont work between an AIr and ANY of the devices we had on holiday (Nokia Lumia (WinMobile8), Samsung Note4 (Android 5.xx), Sony something or other (top end - Android 5.xx), Lenovo P780 (Android 4.2), Xiaomi HongMi Note 3G (MIUI 6 Beta based on Android 4.4.2) and an Asus EeePC901 running WinXP SP3).

some people do like to moan don't they. I do wonder if those who buy cheap Chinese knock-offs/ replicas understand why aforementioned tat is cheap.

some people do like to moan don't they. I do wonder if those who buy cheap Chinese knock-offs/ replicas understand why aforementioned tat is cheap.

 

Personally I wouldn't class any of the devices GG mentioned as 'cheap Chinese knock-offs/ replicas'...

Personally I wouldn't class any of the devices GG mentioned as 'cheap Chinese knock-offs/ replicas'...

I was referring more to the 99p (inc P&P) chargers

I was referring more to the 99p (inc P&P) chargers

Dont forget the mentioned in other threads car radio H/Us and the many many usb/sd-cards that werwnt as advertised....

im not into apple, mostly due to the cost they slap onto everything and some of the sales tactics they use (artificially boosting demand by limiting device numbers for launch etc) but if people are then leave them to it

Well it wont work between an AIr and ANY of the devices we had on holiday (Nokia Lumia (WinMobile8), Samsung Note4 (Android 5.xx), Sony something or other (top end - Android 5.xx), Lenovo P780 (Android 4.2), Xiaomi HongMi Note 3G (MIUI 6 Beta based on Android 4.4.2) and an Asus EeePC901 running WinXP SP3).

 

I think you misunderstand what A2DP is.

some people do like to moan don't they. I do wonder if those who buy cheap Chinese knock-offs/ replicas understand why aforementioned tat is cheap.

 

If that was aimed at me, the Asus, Sony, Samsung and Nokia were all "genuine" UK stock bought from CarPhoneWarehouse, the "Three" Shop and Vodaphone. The Xiaomi and Lenovo are Chinese makes, and although I have concerns the Lenovo is a knock-off, the Xiaomi I bought direct from them.

 

The £300 ICE that works with Apple, but doesnt like anything else is a Clarion bought from a UK shop, and the £30 ICE that works perfectly with every non Apple device IS a Chinese knockoff,

 

It is so good that I am considering opening it up and replacing the audio circuitry with something better, then throwing the Clarion away.

FFS, some people worship apple, some people hate apple, most people are somewhere in the middle.

Can we please stop turning each thread into an argument over some tech or another? Please?

I think you misunderstand what A2DP is.

 

A2DP requires two way data transmission, on iDevs this wont work with NON iDevs/ non-Apple licensed products, hence my saying the Apple version of BT is crippleware.

 

A2DP works from an i4s to my Apple licensed Clarion (not tried any other iDev), but doesnt work on the £30 unit; but then EVERY Android and Windows dev I have tried (that supports A2DP) works perfectly on the £30 unit (some now work on the Clarion, but not as well).

 

Last post, as per cheezemonkai's plaintive request (which I didnt spot until I was ready to hit "Post")

A2DP requires two way data transmission, on iDevs this wont work with NON iDevs/ non-Apple licensed products, hence my saying the Apple version of BT is crippleware.

A2DP is not Bluetooth, A2DP uses bluetooth. A2DP is a standard, iOS uses this standard, so if the sink is fully compliant then it'll work fine. If the sink doesn't implement the standard fully (or correctly) then it may cause issues. Some sources will cope with this better than others, but aren't required to.

 

My comment was because you said A2DP didn't "work between an AIr and ANY of the devices we had on holiday " where you then listed a myriad of phones. I've never seen a phone that is also an A2DP sink, so it's normal these wouldn't work. I'd be interested if any of your Android phones can send an A2DP stream to another Android phone without a 3rd party app. I felt you were confusing it with profiles like OPP, BIP, OBEX/GOEP or FTP.

 

For the record, my Bluetooth headphones aren't licensed and work fine with iOS, the HU in the Octy isn't licensed and works fine with iOS as they both implement the standard fine. So your statement about Apple licensed products is simply wrong. Apple restrict quite a lot of stuff and do, purposefully, choose not to implement certain features (eg OPP). But I think your problem with this is more on the side of your devices rather than blanket blaming Apple for implementing A2DP strictly when it obviously does work for other people.

Feel free to hate Apple, everyone has that choice. But it's not fair to tout falsehoods to backup your anecdotal-based arguments; there's plenty of real reasons to choose from without that.

If that was aimed at me

As mentioned above, I was referring to the 99p (Inc P&P) chargers.