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How much should I lower my MK2 VRS Estate?

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Yes, good to see some cars and comments around the Eibach and/or B12 kit and an estate with it fitted (selfishly) for me too.

 

Only thing that surprised me a little is the height.

 

I think it looks good, a good compromise and oem looking. But it is more than all the guff on websites and some previous forum posts suggests. A lot of comments used to say the kit was 30mm reduction from standard and a vRS is already 20mm reduced, so expect only a further 10mm only.

 

As per previous post 23, this would be about a 40mm drop from my 5yo vRS, presumably running on original springs and dampers - it certainly doesn't look like there is anything new around the struts in my car.  Just wondering if all the Eibach Pros are the same height and if they're identical in the B12 kit....  Also, wanting to get the story straight for insurance notification and questions...I'll try and photo mine as is and update this post.   I reckon mine looks higher than the b4 photos of skinnyman. 

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This is my estate standard. Pretty high guard lip height 680-685mm all round.

good to see you've decided on the b12s, am really happy with mine and worth the extra money, have just coupled mine with an 034motorsports rear anti roll bar and now the handing is fantastic, the standard suspension felt a bit like I was driving on a cloud!

 

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good to see you've decided on the b12s, am really happy with mine and worth the extra money, have just coupled mine with an 034motorsports rear anti roll bar and now the handing is fantastic, the standard suspension felt a bit like I was driving on a cloud!

 

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Thanks for posting some pics of yours. I need one of these kits for mine!

Running B12 on mine also, 2012 estate VRs. Really happy with it!

I purchased a set of Eibach Pro Springs from DC Performance yesterday.  

 

These: http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/cheap/1069371/skoda/eibach-pro-kit-springs/e10-79-004-02-22.html

 

As you can see, the listing states that these will lower the car by 20 mm. From some of the posts on this thread, it seems people are suggesting that for the VRS - already 20 mm lower than standard - you need to subtract that 20 mm to get the actual lowering figure for a set of springs. By that logic, these springs will not lower my car at all. Or have I got that wrong? The listing is, after all, specifically for the VRS. I was originally just going to get like-for-like springs to stiffen up the ride a bit, but elected for the 20 mm drop for strictly aesthetic reasons. It would make the gap between arch and wheel uniform throughout.

 

On another note, and again, this is entirely a question of looks, not handling, how far can you push the wheels out with spacers on a standard set-up? Assuming I've got the above springs on (and they actually lower the car), could I do 20 mm per wheel without creating a problem? To my way of thinking, a performance car looks best if the gap in the arch is even, and the wheel is as flush with the arch as it can be (but not protruding beyond it - which I think is illegal anyway).

 

As for the argument that broke out earlier about the efficacy of various mods, I think it's fair to say that there are both myths and facts involved when it comes to what can and can't be achieved by bolting after market parts to a stock car.   

 

At one extreme, it is true that turning a standard car into an actual race car is an enormous undertaking that requires expertise, time and a ridiculous amount of money. Even the million-Pound-plus supercars from Lamborghini and Ferrari would burn out and fall to pieces after a few laps of actual racing on a real circuit. Just look how many F1 cars break down doing a season. 

 

At the other extreme, it is equally true that the manufacturers of "performance" models such as the Seat FR series, the VW R models, and obviously, the VRS Skoda variants, have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to the quality of the parts they use. So it's inevitable that for these models (and their standard variants) an owner can buy aftermarket parts that are both inferior and superior to the OEM. But you can't really compare bolting a Halfords aerofoil big enough to be a wing on a small jet to the roof of a 1.2L Micra, and replacing your stock suspension or brakes with parts from a reputable manufacturer such as Brembo, or Eibach. Of course, even the solid brands often put out budget variants to cater to the naive, but that's a different story.  

 

Long story short; like many on here, I enjoy driving for its own sake. I know the guy I just overtook is going to be behind me at the end of the next tailback. I know he's going to inch past me in the inside lane and shake his head while muttering something like "You're not going to get there faster driving like a ****." But he's missed the point entirely. I didn't buy a 170 HP car because I'm in a hurry, I bought it so I can floor the accelerator and enjoy it. And for guys like me, minor improvements in braking and suspension DO make a noticeable difference to handling. As for purely aesthetic modification, they make me happy, which is all I need them to do. 

I believe that "officially" the vrs is 15mm lower than the standard octy from the factory.

 

those springs are the same as the ones I have fitted to my white octy a few posts previous to this so I expect youre looking at the same sort of drop and I reckon mines about 20mm lower than before I fitted the..m although I have no measurements to back this up, I just think that its more than 5mm otherwise!

 

I'm running 15mm spacers at the back and 10mm at the front. I wouldn't want to go much further on the back to avoid scrubbing the arches over bumps and I wouldn't want to go much more at the front as I have already noticed a lot more c**p gets flung up the front doors.. I recommend buying a clay bar :P

I agree with a few points that jronnquist makes about being able to improve on, or totally ruin the setup of a car by using aftermarket parts.  In terms of the springs and spacers I fitted to the Octavia, I think they have improved the handling and looks of the car.

We've just returned from a holiday in the Lake District.  The car was packed to the gills, had five of us in and a full tank of fuel when we set off.  The Eibach springs were amazing to be honest.  At no point did the wheels rub on the arches or did we hit the bump stops.  The car cornered extremely well when fully loaded and handled all the different surfaces with ease.  I was worried about grounding out on the more undulating roads but again, I didn't need to worry.

I'm happy with the handling, the looks and the overall effect of the two simple mods.  As andsoutham says, the 15mm and 10mm spacer options are about right and so far (in my case anyway) they have been trouble free. 

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