Upgrading from Swing...

[lichfielddriver]

When I asked SHHHHkoda it sounded like a big job to retro fit a columbus unit, they bring in a contractor!

 

 

So if i did get a Amundson unit is swapping a DIY job? i have the sharkfin - is that a GPS aeriel?

 

 

[TheRobinK]

Ahhh - the contractor they refer to is not what you think. Its a Mafia "Contractor". I hear the bill for a dealer retrofitting a Columbus is so nasty that an enforcer is always brought in to extract the payment.

 

(Being serious though - I would think the way to go is to procure the needed parts from a trusted source like rustynuts (I wonder why he doesn't just oil them?) and see if someone on Briskoda who has done this could help. I heard of people being quoted 2600 euro to go from the base unit to a Columbus)

[Nathanio]

As per RobinK, go to that man Rusty Nuts.

If you don't have a GPS aerial you can fit one anyway behind the HU.

[dsab]

I replaced a Bolero with a Columbus myself a few months ago, and it took all but 20 minutes to fit it, and then another short trip to an acquaintance with a VCDS to actually code it to the car. In my case everything worked out of the box, except for the display of the SatNav Instructions on the MFD. That's the part that VCDS coding resolved.

 

GPS Aerial went behind the HU, and works very well.

Edited 13 September, 2016 by dsab

[lichfielddriver]

whats the sharkfin for, GPS or DAB?

[dsab]

Depends on the car. As far as I understand the Shark fins come in multiple varieties, each covering a different combination of DAB, FM, GPS, GSM, webasto etc.

[lichfielddriver]

wouldnt it be nice if everything had a definitive answer........... yes or no, left or right, black or white...

 

[langers2k]

wouldnt it be nice if everything had a definitive answer........... yes or no, left or right, black or white...

 

 

It does have a definitive answer, you just need to check what antenna your car has...

 

The antenna will have some number of coloured fakra connectors, the colours will tell you what functions it has:

- black DAB

- purple GSM

- blue GPS

- white AM/FM

- biege webasto

 

If it is the correct sharkfin, you'd probably still need an extension cable between the antenna and headunit: http://www.cars-equipment.com/www/en/shop/roof-antenna-8/oem-gps-extension-cable-for-roof/

 

I really wouldn't worry as the worst case is adding an antenna like this: http://www.carsystems.pl/gps-antenna-90-angle-blue-fakra-connector,id18.html

[lichfielddriver]

My car doesnt have satnav or DAB, why has it got a sharkfin?

[TheRobinK]

My car doesnt have satnav or DAB, why has it got a sharkfin?

 

Some cars can have dummy sharkfins (Skoda part 1K0035507L) and you can also have a Sharkfin if your car came without NAV or DAB etc but did have  "GSM/mobile phone preparation" (Skoda part 3C0035507M) 

 

See here for OEM dummy sharkfin: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/GENUINE-VW-VOLKSWAGEN-DUMMY-FIN-FINN-ROOF-AERIAL-1K0035507L-/381516802782

 

See here for phone prep only sharkfin: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Antenne-VW-Audi-Seat-Skoda-3C0035507M-GSM-Handy-Telefon-Dachantenne-/361265643832

[lichfielddriver]

Surely the "build" for my car (inc its parts list) should know?

 

As it stands id have to remove the Swing to check whats tucked away behind it then maybe order cables and connectors to fit anything in its place...

[TheRobinK]

With the Swing Radio I would suspect that the aerial would be the sharkfin for phone preparation. Do you have Bluetooth? That would indicate it.

 

The other place to check is that model ode/engine code/paint code and options sticker in your handbook or the sticker near your spare tyre area. If you see a code other than 9W0 (which is "without phone preparation) that is in the format "9W" followed by a number other than zero, then you have "phone preparation" or similar and it would explain a non dummy sharkfin on a car without Nav or DAB. 

Edited 13 September, 2016 by TheRobinK

[lichfielddriver]

With the Swing Radio I would suspect that the aerial would be the sharkfin for phone preparation. Do you have Bluetooth? That would indicate it.

 

The other place to check is that model ode/engine code/paint code and options sticker in your handbook or the sticker near your spare tyre area. If you see a code other than 9W0 (which is "without phone preparation) that is in the format "9W" followed by a number other than zero, then you have "phone preparation" or similar and it would explain a non dummy sharkfin on a car without Nav or DAB. 

 

 

I have BT

 

Edited 13 September, 2016 by lichfielddriver

[langers2k]

I have BT

 

Then you may have a GSM sharkfin antenna fitted. No guarantee it'll support GPS - you need to drop the rear of the headliner to check.

 

Or just use an aftermarket one...

[lichfielddriver]

Sons SE+ Ambition with Amundsen with GPS and BT

 

[lichfielddriver]

E0A = No special edition

1D0 = Without trailer hitch

5SJ = Left exterior mirror: convex

5RV = Right exterior mirror: aspherical

1KS = Disc brakes, rear (Geomet D)

6FB = Body-colored exterior mirror housings

1AT = Electronic stabilization program (ESP)

3FA = Without roof insert (standard roof)

1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)

1NL = Covers for alloy wheels

H0R = Tires 205/55 R16 91H optimized rolling resistance

4UP = Drivers and front passenger air bag with knee air bag and front passenger air bag deactivation

3NW = Rear seat bench/backrest, split folding with center armrest

3QT = 3-point seat belts with tensioner and height adjustment, front

4X3 = Side air bag front with curtain air bag

4A0 = Without seat heater

8ZF = Inside side window antenna

J2D = Battery 380 A (68 Ah)

QI6 = Service indicator 30,000 km or 2 year ( variable )

8GU = Alternator 140 A

6Y0 = Without cruise control warning system

KH6 = Electronically controlled air conditioning system

8RM = 8 speakers (passive)

7Q0 = Without navigation device

8AJ = Radio

8QL = Key for locking system with remote control

8X0 = Without headlight washer system

4K3 = Radio remote controlled central locking operated from inside and safe securing

B09 = Type approval Great Britain and NorthernIreland

7MJ = Emission standard EU5 plus

QN1 = Drawer under left front seat

3L3 = Manual height adjustment for front seats

9P3 = Seat belt reminder, electric contact in buckle

Q1A = Standard front seats

7X0 = Without park distance control

9ZG = Mobile phone preparation with hands-freespeaking system

8WB = Front fog lights

7A0 = Without CD changer/CD player

3GD = Plane rear cargo area

7AL = Anti-theft alarm system, passenger compartment control, backup horn and towing protection

G07 = Front shock absorption

L02 = Suspension range 02 installation control only, no requirement forecast

7P0 = Without lumbar support in seat backrests

F0A = No special purpose vehicle, standard equipment

3S2 = Black roof rails

2UA = Standard design

[lichfielddriver]

Sons SE Greenline 

 

E0W = Special edition

1D0 = Without trailer hitch

5SJ = Left exterior mirror: convex

5RV = Right exterior mirror: aspherical

1KS = Disc brakes, rear (Geomet D)

6FB = Body-colored exterior mirror housings

1AT = Electronic stabilization program (ESP)

3FA = Without roof insert (standard roof)

1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)

1NL = Covers for alloy wheels

H0R = Tires 205/55 R16 91H optimized rolling resistance

4UP = Drivers and front passenger air bag with knee air bag and front passenger air bag deactivation

3NU = Rear seat bench unsplit, backrest split folding with center armrest

3QT = 3-point seat belts with tensioner and height adjustment, front

4X3 = Side air bag front with curtain air bag

4A0 = Without seat heater

8L5 = Roof antenna and "diversity" window antenna

J2D = Battery 380 A (68 Ah)

QI6 = Service indicator 30,000 km or 2 year ( variable )

8GU = Alternator 140 A

6Y0 = Without cruise control warning system

9AK = Climatronic with impact pressure control free of cfc

8RM = 8 speakers (passive)

7UC = Navigation system "RNS315" (integrated data storage device)

8AY = Radio/navigation system

8QL = Key for locking system with remote control

8X0 = Without headlight washer system

4K3 = Radio remote controlled central locking operated from inside and safe securing

B09 = Type approval Great Britain and NorthernIreland

7MG = Emission standard EU5

QN0 = Without drawers under front seats

3L6 = Electric seat adjustment for both front seats, drivers seat with memory system

9P3 = Seat belt reminder, electric contact in buckle

Q2A = Standard front seats

7X1 = Park distance control

9ZS = Preparation for telephone internal all- purpose cellular phone preparation with voice control

8WD = Integrated front fog light

7A0 = Without CD changer/CD player

3GD = Plane rear cargo area

7AL = Anti-theft alarm system, passenger compartment control, backup horn and towing protection

G54 = Front shock absorption

L10 = Suspension range 10 installation control only, no requirement forecast

7P1 = Power adjustable lumbar support in frontseats

F0A = No special purpose vehicle, standard equipment

3S4 = Preparation for roof load rack

2UC = Sports version

[lichfielddriver]

8ZF = Inside side window antenna.....

 

interesting (on mine)

[langers2k]

E0A = No special edition

1D0 = Without trailer hitch

...

3S2 = Black roof rails

2UA = Standard design

 

That's not a full list of PR codes for your vehicle.

 

Anyway, from that list the interesting ones are 7Q0 and 9ZG which would suggest the sharkfin part number is 3C0 035 507 M. This is only for GSM.

 

Ideally you want 3C0 035 507 N which should be GSM and GPS.

 

There is no guarantee the M rev part is fitted as it'll depend what the factory had when building your car. The only way to be sure is to physically check what is fitted...

[kwmax]

My new in 2013 came with bolero radio non sat nav antenna is in rear screen but to. My annoyance had a blanking plug in rear of roof ! So installed a OEM shark fin dummie

[lichfielddriver]

The BT/GSM is interesting, with previous BT systems its just a connection from phone to car audio, in the Superb it takes over then?

[TheRobinK]

With early or basic systems, the BT just acts as as a hands-free (in other words, it connects to your phone like a Bluetooth headset would - or phone to car audio just like you said).

 

With the fancier modules, they have an independent GSM module (like a built in dedicated phone) that takes over your phones SIM card (this is the rSAP - remote SIM access profile). 

 

When it takes over the SIM (you were right about that) - it then uses the Sharkfin aerial to get the GSM signal. That can be good as it should be less likely to lose a connection.

 

That said, the Superb can only "take over" if the phone you own supports rSAP.  If you have a Windows or an Apple iPhone you are snookered as they dont support rSAP.  Then, you connect to the car via a little Bluetooth aerial in the cars module and your phone manages the GSM connection heavy lifting.

[lichfielddriver]

I disabled sim access, i was having to reboot phone to network every time i left the car

 

i dont get texts on the MFD but thats fine

[lichfielddriver]

ok, was there a video on here somewhere showing how to remove a swing/amundsen?

[TheRobinK]

ok, was there a video on here somewhere showing how to remove a swing/amundsen?

 

Just go to YouTube and search for "remove amundsen skoda superb"

 

or

 

go to Google and enter "remove amundsen skoda superb site:youtube.com"

 

.....and you will get a a whole bunch of them.