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Tyres/Brakes/Handling - feedbacks needed

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Hi all,

I've driven the Octy 2.0 TDI for the last 3 months and around 7000 km and wanted to get feedbacks from you regarding the following points :

 

1. brakes behave strangely. One time I was afraid I won't stop on time. In the beginning I was taking care and push the pedal slowly, gently. But in this scenario I realized you can doze the pressure but at the end it needs very hard press and still feels unsafe. However in case you jump on the pedal faster there is some assistance taking place which pushes much faster the brakes.

 1.1. tyres? (Conti Eco Contact 5)
 1.2. works as design?
 1.3. it's havier diesel car and I'm not used to it coming from petrol?

2. going in sharper corners I realize the understeering is very noticable, compared to my previous Hyundai i30 with very tough suspension.

 2.1. it's havier diesel car and I'm not used to it coming from petrol?
 2.2. softer (comfortable suspension) compared to the previous stuff (like a carting) one?
 2.3. tyres? (Conti Eco Contact 5)

3. maybe I need more time to get used to the car?

 

4. why the traction control feels like a hit bellow the car? First few times I tought I hit holes, bumps, etc..

 

5. when the ESP takes place and get lights lid? I found today a dirty place with little dust combined w/ water (like black ice) and decided to do slow but sharp cornerning. The car did not correct me (at least not shown as icon). Speed was slow I must admit - 20km/h but it was underground parking, so I didn't want to stop in the coloumns.

 

I wanted to ask for your experiences share. It's obvious the vRS will stop and handle better in those conditions. But by no means I'm dynamic driver, I drive normal, no sporty intensions..равление, не я юркам динамично.

 

Thanks everyone in advance!

 

Nice forum by the way!

The brakes on my 2.0TDi Combi are very powerful and require a light touch on the pedal. I have never thought that it would not stop or that it was underbraked. I have not experienced understeer, although maybe I am not pushing it as hard as you. If you find it understeering then slightly easing the power should cause the front to tuck in and may change it to oversteer if you remove too much power, so it should be possible to adjust the power to give neutral cornering.

The traction control is harsh, but again should not come on too frequently. I think your right foot is heavier than you admit!

 Point 3 - Surely three months over 7000 km is enough to get used to a car?

 

Point 4 - Yes, it does, that's just the way it is. I could get that in my previous 1.4 SE TSi DSG. Personally I think the front end is a bit light, making it too easy for the wheels to spin. I'd have thought the heavier weight of the diesl engine would lessen the effect. Maybe others on different tyres (Michelins, anyone?) can comment.

1) I think you will know,the distance in which the car will stop depends on speed (both your reaction and that of the car), car weight, tyre and road condition,foot pressure applied to the pedal, and a few other things but in the end it all comes down to you making the right judgements as the car reduces speed. For example, if you keep the same pressure on the pedal right to a stop, that stop will be quite abrupt (sharp) but if you relax the pedal pressure as the car slows the final stop will be very soft.

2) For taking corners the same situation as for braking applies, that is, your judgement and then application of steering wheel input and relaxation.

As I think you recognise, perhaps all your concerns, including those under 4 and 5, relate to you needing to get used to the car and controlling it appropriately. After 3months I hope by now you can try and relax and not question whether the car is behaving properly and concentrate on making sure you are doing the right thing at the right time. Good luck.

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Thanks all

I will tune myself.

BTW I might be pushing it more, just not feeling the speed enough as in the Hyundai. The noise acts as natural stop, Octy is very quiet and I might be disconnected more.

Anyway I plan to keep more attention and caution.

Thanks again!

@Paulis55 - take an experiment. Cruise at safe speed and start pressing slow and easy the break pedal. You will feel you need much more power at the end. Do the same by touching fast the pedal, even not pushing it down much. In second scenario car over assists you and bites the disks fast and secure but if done easy and progresively you loose the assistance.

Example...car starts to slow in front, you don't jump on the breaks but starts slowly to reduce speed, then the front decides to stop to zero, your pedal is little press and you start to the bottom but it feels no way near safe as when fully assisted. Also requires lot more power to press it..

Not sure if I explained it right, never mind I will tune and pay extra attention ;)

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