Hi, I recently had a fabia mk3 se dsg, which did not have cruise control but it did have a speed limiter which I really liked having and used it reguarly to limit my speed at road works etc.

I have just ordered a octavia se sports which has cruise control but no mention of a speed limiter, as it has cruise control does this mean it will not have a speed limiter?. I have never had or used cruise control so not sure how it works or if it could be used as a reliable speed limiter.

Any help Gladly Appreciated.

Edited 17 November, 20169 yr by POWYSWALES

Just set the cruise at your required speed.

I regularly use it for the 50mph motorway roadworks.

There is also a speed warning you can set on the maxidot screen between the dials. Set the speed and it will bong at you and flash up on the maxidot when you exceed it, but won't limit you unfortunately.

Something I miss as well, had this on my Avensis, soooooooo useful when in an unknown area of cash machines - sometimes referred to as speed cameras - just hit the button and drive normally and not have to worry looking at the speedo or looking out for cameras.

Can't understand why they cannot fit it to an Octavia.

But cruise does the same thing, just get to 50mph and click the 'Set' button.

But cruise does the same thing, just get to 50mph and click the 'Set' button.

 

It doesn't do the same thing though - My wifes Dacia has this and it is a useful feature.

 

Basically when you set the limit, you drive the car as normal (pedals) but when you accelerate, it will not go past the set limit.

But cruise does the same thing, just get to 50mph and click the 'Set' button.

Cruise stops your speed going below the set speed, but does not apply the brakes if you go above the set speed e.g. when going downhill.

But cruise does the same thing, just get to 50mph and click the 'Set' button.

 

Put it like this; set limiter to 50mph. You can accelerate, as hard and as fast as you like from 0mph to 50mph and it will not go faster no matter what you do. Need to stop? Fine, slow up, fine beat the other guy at the lights fine; do what you like, UP TO 50mph. Set the cruise to 50mph, you go at 50, but you can exceed that by just resting your foot on the pedal, with a limiter you can put the pedal to the floor and the car will only go to the speed set.

I understand how the limiter works.

 

But for what the OP is trying to achieve, limiting speed in roadworks, cruise will do the job if you don't accelerate with you foot....

 

Limiter sounds a bit dangerous to me, what if you suddenly need to accelerate out of trouble, and cant find the cancel button.

Cruise stops your speed going below the set speed, but does not apply the brakes if you go above the set speed e.g. when going downhill.

Adaptive cruise control (ACC) does apply the brakes if the car accelerates due to gravity, but that would still be of no use to the OP: ACC does not put the brakes on if the driver accelerates past the set speed.

I understand how the limiter works.

 

But for what the OP is trying to achieve, limiting speed in roadworks, cruise will do the job if you don't accelerate with you foot....

 

Limiter sounds a bit dangerous to me, what if you suddenly need to accelerate out of trouble, and cant find the cancel button.

 

You just push your accelerator down to the floor and it hits a switch to disengage. I do miss that feature off my old clio.

Adaptive cruise control (ACC) does apply the brakes if the car accelerates due to gravity, but that would still be of no use to the OP: ACC does not put the brakes on if the driver accelerates past the set speed.

Really? I've got ACC and haven't noticed it applying the brakes when going downhill, only when approaching slower traffic.

 

Will have to watch carefully next time I use ACC...

I've really liked the speed limiter in my Fabia. Given the choice between old-school cruise and the limiter, I'd take the limiter. I use it way more than the cruise I had in my previous Focus. I would however prefer the ACC you get in the VWs- you can switch between limiter and ACC. The Fabias with regular cruise will also switch between cruise and limiter (as do the Superbs, I think) but Skodas apparently don't have a limiter option if you go for ACC. At least, it's not mentioned in the Fabia manual!

 

The advantage of the limiter is that you know you can't exceed the set speed, but otherwise the car behaves exactly as normal. If you floor it, it'll override the limiter- there's a switch under the pedal, and you can feel it 'click'. It's an excellent system, but I wish Skoda would have provided that one little button on the bottom of the indicator stalk that gives you cruise!

I got so used to cruise control I used it round town at 30mph to avoid the speed traps. Not got it in my mark III and the best I can now do to avoid being caught on motorways is to set the speed warning for 70 ishmph.

The SE spec is otherwise fine for me.

Edited 19 November, 20169 yr by gregoir

 it will not go faster no matter what you do.

 OR

You just push your accelerator down to the floor and it hits a switch to disengage.

 

It seems people have quite different experiences with 'speed limiters'

Hi, Thanks for all the replys, looks like I will have to just watch my speed if cruise is not reliable enough to do so.

As said on the fabia with speed limiter you could if you really needed to go over the set limit by pushing down a lot further on the accelerator, also if you go down a hill it could also creep over the set limit but you got an audible warning to let you know.

it will not go faster no matter what you do.

OR

You just push your accelerator down to the floor and it hits a switch to disengage.

It seems people have quite different experiences with 'speed limiters'

Yeah is slightly confusing. I think the idea is, most, if not all limiters will stop you from accidently going over the set limit but when you act purposely, it disables and allows you too.

To be fair, I've not been able to disengage my wife's limiter so imagine it's not applicable to all applications.

I have a speed limiter in my Octy - it's called my right foot...with one eye and ear supporting it

I did have a chance to try the "limiter"; out of pure curiosity: I switched it on once or twice in my former car (Peugeot 508 a piece of ****). A dreadful experience for someone who wants to control the car.

Come on guys, is it really such a great idea to have an electronic gizmo choking your car when you may need to do an emergency maneuver?

Even if it disengages after a stepping on accelerator harder, you do waste a vital fraction of a second. Plain stupid feature if you ask me. In case you never had a situation when a 0.5s was a deceive moment, means you did not drive long enough ar have a hell lot of luck.

Cruise control on the other hand may come handy as long as you don't get too lazy using it - it does lower the alertness level of the driver.

I have a speed limiter in my Octy - it's called my right foot...with one eye and ear supporting it

I did have a chance to try the "limiter"; out of pure curiosity: I switched it on once or twice in my former car (Peugeot 508 a piece of ****). A dreadful experience for someone who wants to control the car.

Come on guys, is it really such a great idea to have an electronic gizmo choking your car when you may need to do an emergency maneuver?

Even if it disengages after a stepping on accelerator harder, you do waste a vital fraction of a second. Plain stupid feature if you ask me. In case you never had a situation when a 0.5s was a deceive moment, means you did not drive long enough ar have a hell lot of luck.

Cruise control on the other hand may come handy as long as you don't get too lazy using it - it does lower the alertness level of the driver.

I'll go with all of this.

I've never met a car with a Speed Limiter. It sounds like a nonsense device.

Cruise control combined with Mk.1 eyeball and some grey matter between the ears is what you need.

If a limiter only strangles the car to stop it exceeding some number determined by an inaccurate measuring device (speedometer) while requiring the driver to maintain the throttle pedal position, then it is hardly much help on a long stretch of road.

Last week I enjoyed many miles of M6 road works at 50mph and was amazed to find much self passing countless vehicles that must have had their speedo needles stuck on 50mph - true speed around 55/56 or so - while my (Garmin stick on) GPS guided cruise control was holding me to a more realistic 50/51mph and my speedo reading was probably around 55. A speed limiter would still give me cramp in my leg. Unless it's on a tractor with a hand throttle.

A speed limiter sound like a relic from the past, but as one who has driven for over 4 decades, why am I surprised I've never met one :-)

Really? I've got ACC and haven't noticed it applying the brakes when going downhill, only when approaching slower traffic.

Will have to watch carefully next time I use ACC...

It does, and does it well.

I use it all the time in a quite steep undersea tunnel with average speedcams.

I'll go with all of this.

I've never met a car with a Speed Limiter. It sounds like a nonsense device.

Cruise control combined with Mk.1 eyeball and some grey matter between the ears is what you need.

If a limiter only strangles the car to stop it exceeding some number determined by an inaccurate measuring device (speedometer) while requiring the driver to maintain the throttle pedal position, then it is hardly much help on a long stretch of road.

Last week I enjoyed many miles of M6 road works at 50mph and was amazed to find much self passing countless vehicles that must have had their speedo needles stuck on 50mph - true speed around 55/56 or so - while my (Garmin stick on) GPS guided cruise control was holding me to a more realistic 50/51mph and my speedo reading was probably around 55. A speed limiter would still give me cramp in my leg. Unless it's on a tractor with a hand throttle.

A speed limiter sound like a relic from the past, but as one who has driven for over 4 decades, why am I surprised I've never met one :-)

 

An expert on something on something he has never tried.

 

" Sounds like a nonsense device"

 

" Sounds like a relic from the past"

 

I have had a car with this so instead of guessing its nonsense can say with usage experience that AT TIMES it can be very useful and works in a different way to CC, and, used in conjunction with the grey matter between your ears can prevent the driver accidentally going over the speed limit.

 

Its another aid to the driver, just like CC, ABS, and a host of other things manufactures add to make their cars more attractive or up to date. IF you don't like 'em turn them off or just don't use them. My car has park assist but I can park using the pedals and steering wheel; does that mean that P.A is a nonsense device? ABS ? you have a right foot why have ABS? Auto lights? You can operate manually can't you?

 

Maybe Ford should reintroduce the model T.

An expert on something on something he has never tried.

 

" Sounds like a nonsense device"

 

" Sounds like a relic from the past"

 

I have had a car with this so instead of guessing its nonsense can say with usage experience that AT TIMES it can be very useful and works in a different way to CC, and, used in conjunction with the grey matter between your ears can prevent the driver accidentally going over the speed limit.

 

Its another aid to the driver, just like CC, ABS, and a host of other things manufactures add to make their cars more attractive or up to date. IF you don't like 'em turn them off or just don't use them. My car has park assist but I can park using the pedals and steering wheel; does that mean that P.A is a nonsense device? ABS ? you have a right foot why have ABS? Auto lights? You can operate manually can't you?

 

Maybe Ford should reintroduce the model T.

P.A. Is indeed another nonsense device to help incompetents do something they should be able to do. How many folk actually trust it through the the manoeuvre? But some of today's drivers are so busy playing with 21st century technology that they have little time left to concentrate on driving skills. I do have PA on one car and regret ticking the box long ago.

Not too keen on auto lights either.

I can't think of an excuse for "accidentally" going over the speed limit.

Surely that argument can then be applied to everything else such as DSG or ESP.

The point is that they are to compliment the driving experience and make it safer and/ or easier.

I mean, why have flappy paddles on an auto car. If you wanted to change the gears manually, get a manual gearbox.

Except they are automated manuals, and now many have coasting function, and manual downshift are handy and gives economy where braking might not be needed, icy conditions etc.

Surely that argument can then be applied to everything else such as DSG or ESP.

The point is that they are to compliment the driving experience and make it safer and/ or easier.

I mean, why have flappy paddles on an auto car. If you wanted to change the gears manually, get a manual gearbox.

 

Paddles are useful on an auto. I had them on my Accord. If the autobox was being a bit slow to kickdown, you could quickly flick the paddle to drop a gear.

 

It gives you the best of both worlds, auto for just cruising along, use the paddles if you want some quick control i.e. during overtaking.

DSG & Paddles & a gear stick gives choices, the driver involvement just like those that think pushing the clutch in with their left foot think they have, those real drivers.

 

Paddles are lovely & useful even on the dirty diesels.

(if you want to lift up and down your left leg for exercise when using them you just do it.)

Edited 30 November, 20169 yr by Offski