Hi, I've got a 2010 facelift VRS with the full leather option but no heated seats (why do that!).

What I'm wondering does anyone know if it's possible to 'activate' a heated seat option by just changing the switches on the heater control panel and activate using vagcom, or would it mean retro fitting everything? That might seem a strange question but I've been told before that quite often when a car is being built, some of the more inexpensive options are fitted in the factory because the cost of having to set up the machinery for different specs is more expensive than actually fitting the same to all (in this case a heated seat mat) and I do know that principle does apply to wiring looms, again down to manufacturing costs. 

It's very unlikely you would have the seat elements, wiring or controllers fitted. You're going to need to do a full retrofit if you want heated seats :)

Hi langers2k, thanks for getting back to me. Sounds like a warm coat and strapping a pair on then! Cheers Mark.

you also need a new climate control panel as the current one will need the heated seats button, as said above it wont be there and expensive to fit.

its nice and warm here in leicester anyway. :sun:

Edited 22 December, 20169 yr by tubbytommy

If you want to add OEM heated seats you would need

 

Heating pads 6x in total (different versions for cloth and leather)

2x Under seat looms

1x Relay control box

1x Kufatec wiring loom

1x Climate or AC panel with Heated seat buttons

That's the route I took when I fitted mine, took me just over two days from start to finish, and it worked too, cost about 500 all in, got second hand heater controller but everything else was new.

 

 

Feel free to give me a shout anytime.

 

 

Trev

Why not just buy a heated seat cover that plugs into the cigarette lighter socket, does the job and you don't get the bum on cold leather feeling to begin with.

Thanks for your feedback. I'll have to look into it further and speak to my mechanic (he's an ex main VW then Audi main dealer master tech). I still can't get over that someone would spend all that money on a car new  without having the heated seat option! Anyway, need to work out a master plan without upsetting the wife too much! Cheers guys.

Thanks for your feedback. I'll have to look into it further and speak to my mechanic (he's an ex main VW then Audi main dealer master tech). I still can't get over that someone would spend all that money on a car new  without having the heated seat option! Anyway, need to work out a master plan without upsetting the wife too much! Cheers guys.

as we are local let me know if you get a decent price as its something id be interested in doing, i have vcds software etc and am pretty handy in retrofitting stuff to an octavia 2 vrs

They look like the way forward rather than the hassle and cost of trying to fit originals yourself.

I presume they can be fitted to cloth seats just as easy as leather?

In time I'd say they will be safer than the wire heating elements as the wire can suffer due to the wear and tear on the seat.

And a bargain buy it would appear too.

Compared to factory parts,

And

http://www.heatedcarseats.co.uk/products.html

Edited 23 December, 20169 yr by Redfab

Hi all,

 

I’ve managed to install heated seats to my Octavia 1Z, year 2008 (no facelift).

 

First of all I want to say thank you to Aston_Bodger, a user on this forum. He helped a lot with part numbers and also with some pics and good advices.

 

Ordering the parts

 

1. Climate control module with seat heating scrolls

 

In my car I have climatic not climatronic so I ordered an 1Z0 820 047F from ebay.

 

2. Wiring loom
 

- From kufatec: https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/skoda/octavia/1z/seat-heating-cable-set-skoda-octavia-1z (select with or without seat adjustment, I have no electric seat adjustment) 
- Or from cars-equipment: http://www.cars-equipment.com/en/shop/seat-heating-parts-comfort-6/wiring-for-front-seat-heating-retrofit/

- Or you can make it yourself if you want :). For the fitting I backtraced the kufatec wire. I attach a hand-drawn picture about it without pin and connector part numbers :).

 

 

3. Wire between the heating pads and the kufatec loom

 

As far as I know for the leather and cloth seats there are different part numbers.
The difference is the ending to which the heating pads are connected.

 

I’ve bought used cables from a wrecked car dealership because it was cheaper. Those cables were for leather seats but I did not really care. What was important is that I needed to pick the correct heating pads with the correct ending.

 

The part numbers I had for this cables:
1Z0 971 365 DN - passenger’s side, where there is no relay
1Z0 971 365 DL - driver’s side, where the relay is

 

Both of these cables have a connector 3B0972732 at the end where the pads are connected. So make sure to order heating pads which has the counterpart connector - 1J0972722

Here is a russian site where the same cables were used in a VW Golf I presume: https://www.drive2.ru/l/7845944/. WIth google translate it gets pretty readable.

 

3. Heating relay

 

I’ve bought a used one - 1K0 959 772C (there are relays with part numbers 1K0 959 772, 1K0 959 772B as well, don’t ask what is the difference between them) from the same wrecked car dealership from where I got the cables mentioned above.
If you can buy a new one, the first used one was faulty for me, I had to replace it with the dealer.

 

4. Heating pads

 

I used this web site to identify which pads needed:
https://www.amcarparts.co.uk/octavia-oct-2008-1z-8-000-001-96300-seat-and-backrest-heated-1K0959772/skoda-oem-part-number-15153/

 

And then ordered the pads from my local Skoda dealer. I had to make sure that the pad on which I sit has the connector 1J0972722, which is the counterpart of the connector on the seat heating wire.

 

I ordered the following pads:
2pcs of 1Z0963567D - backrest pad for seats with cloth
2pcs of 1Z0963556B - side pad
2pcs of 1Z0963555A - pad on which you sit on for cloth

 

5. Total cost:

- Climate control module with buttons ~ 50 EUR
- Kufatec loom: ~ 50 EUR
- Wires between heating pads and kufatec loom ~ 16 EUR each (used)
- Relay ~ 16 EUR (used)
- Heating pads:
  - 2pcs of 1Z0963567D ~ 50 EUR each
  - 2pcs of 1Z0963556B ~ 50 EUR each
  - 2pcs of 1Z0963555A ~ 50 EUR each

 

So the total cost is about 450 EUR. So be prepared!

 

Fitting a universal heating is much more cheaper, however it cannot be operated from the OEM controls.

 

The actual fitting

 

Here is a quite good guide for a VW Golf MK5: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=62645.0

It was shown by Aston_Bodger to me and turned out to be very useful because the climate control pins - where the kufatec cable needs to be connected -  are the same for the Octavia and the MK5 golf.

 

I also attach it as a PDF.

 

Heated Seats RetroFit.pdf

 

Be prepared that this is a huge amount of work! I needed 4-5 hours for each seats and another 7-8 hours to fit the kufatec loom.
Of course I’m not a car mechanic but I do have mechanical background, my parents have agricultural business and I used to repair tractors and stuff.

 

I assume that the above mentioned guide is followed for the fitting. I just add some extra notes about my experiences.

 

When fitting the new climate control module, if climatic is fitted, when the old module is removed the mechanical part which connects the air directing knob (windows/face/leg/etc.) and the actuator flap flap gets disconnected from it's socket (for climatronic there is no mechanical part, air direction is done via actuator motors).
To get this re-inserted the glove compartment needs to be removed. Be prepared!
(sorry, I don’t have a picture about it)

 

Dismantling the fuse box and getting the kufatec wire pins installed there is a real pain in the back. I was not able to dismantle the fuse box without cracking it here and there.
Be prepared to have a screwdriver with a very thin ending to be able to “smoothly” unclick the two different plastic parts (black at the front and pink in the back).

 

Removing the “C” connector from central electric module (just above the pedals) is also a pain in the back.

- I needed to remove D connector to be able to remove C.
- These connectors are fastened with extra plastic bulges at the end of the connectors.  I used brute force and some squeezing/turning (along with pressing the release clip of course) to get them out of their sockets.

But this was a big mistake. Fortunately I did break neither the connectors nor any wire but as I could figure out the correct method of disconnecting these would be to move the red securing element in the middle to get the extra plastic bulges out of the way. See attached pic!

 

 

When doing the seat heating pad fitting, make sure to put the heating pads correctly into the “tunnels” where the seat cover parts go.

As Aston_Bodger advised to me:

“...the pads sit on the foam, there are "slots" in the foam, and the pad HAS to go into the slots otherwise it will break the wires inside the pads as soon as you sit on them, and you only have one chance to stick them to the foam too.”

(pictures are from Aston_Bodger)

 

 

When putting the seats together I used cable ties instead of re-using the used clips (which hold the seat cover on it's place). It was advised by some youtube videos to do so.

I hope I will not regret this.

 

Hope this guide helps!

 

In case of any questions you know where to find me!

 

Regards,

/Lajos

Edited 6 January, 20188 yr by olesz

good write up

 

pics are of my seat, but thanks to photobucket you can't see them

Hi Ed,

 

Happy new year to you.

 

Sorry for "stealing" your photos, but I forgot to take any when I did mine :), and I wanted to show him what I meant about the "Channels" in the foam, hope you don't mind?

 

Trev

Edited 6 January, 20188 yr by Aston_Bodger

7 minutes ago, Aston_Bodger said:

Hi Ed,

 

Happy new year to you.

 

Sorry for "stealing" your photos, but I forgot to take any when I did mine :), and I wanted to show him what I meant about the "Channels" in the foam, hope you don't mind?

 

Trev

Happy New Year to you too

 

I don't mind, glad you could still view them. Photobucket are holding some of my images to ransom to view them

Hi Ed,

 

Thanks for that, why have they done that?? any reason?

 

 

Trev

36 minutes ago, Aston_Bodger said:

Hi Ed,

 

Thanks for that, why have they done that?? any reason?

 

 

Trev

they want money

On 1/6/2018 at 21:37, Eddie-NL said:

good write up

 

pics are of my seat, but thanks to photobucket you can't see them

Hi Eddie,

 

I didn't know these were your pics and I'm happy that you don't mind posting them.

They were very useful to me, I thought the can be useful to someone else as well!

 

Regards,

/Lajos

In my previous post about the retrofitting, the part " the mechanical part which connects the air directing knob (windows/face/leg/etc.) and the actuator flap" is called flex shaft - part no. 1z1819287 or 1z2819287.

 

Description about it can be found here: https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2008-419/8/819-819040/#4

On 22/12/2016 at 13:19, Aston_Bodger said:

That's the route I took when I fitted mine, took me just over two days from start to finish, and it worked too, cost about 500 all in, got second hand heater controller but everything else was new.

 

 

Feel free to give me a shout anytime.

 

 

Trev

Hi trev did you use the kufatec wiring loom and is it plug and play

Hi mate,

 

Yes it was the Kufatec loom I used, not quite plug and play you will need to code it with VDCS.

 

 

Trev

on the hand drawn diagram above what does the writing say for wire 1 and 2 are the switched lives ?

This is what I used

Upto 2006

Wire	Location (Climatronic)	Location (Climatic)	Location (No AC)	Purpose
Earth Wires
Brown wires (with ring connectors)	Earth point by bonnet release handle	Earth / Ground
Climate control panel
blue/yellow	Climate control panel (pin 10)	Climate control panel (pin 13)	Climate control panel (pin 11)	Passenger side heated seat switch
blue/red	Climate control panel (pin 11)	Climate control panel (pin 12)	Climate control panel (pin 15)	Drivers side heated seat switch
grey	Climate control panel (pin 12)	Climate control panel (pin 15)	Climate control panel (pin 16)	Feed to climate control panel, from CECM
Fuse Box
Red / white (thick wire)	fuse box, 37, 30A	-	-	Power for heated seats
Grey(thick wire)	fuse box, 34, 20A	-	-	Power for lumbar support
Grey (thin wire)	fuse box, 8, 5A. (If 4 and 7 are already in use)	-	-	Ignition live for heated seats
Black (double crimp)	fuse box, ??, ??.	-	-	Can someone confirm this one for me??
CECM
White (double crimp)	CECM, Connector C, Pin 1	-	-	Feed to central electrics

And I also used a Kufatec loom, not sure what is hand written on the diagram.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Trev

hi thanks for that im going to have a go this week so fingers crossed

Good luck, oh and you need to activate with VDCS too, it's in the central convenience I think as it's been a long time since I did mine.

 

Trev