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Hi all,

 

I'm after some new front and rear brembo brake discs, and confused as to which ones to get. I have a 2014 Octavia vrs 2.0 tsi 220 and read on here that some people say its 340mm front pads, some saying 312mm front pads.

 

At this link: https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/skoda-octavia-5e3-2-0-tsi-rs/000059677-1

 

From the link above, I would like the Brembo Xtra discs as they are the highest spec out of the three, however, I can only select 312mm discs? But on the standard discs, there is 340mm 'in development'.

 

Would the smaller Xtra disc of 312mm be better than the 340mm standard disc? Even though it has all the added features, more surface area is best?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I basically want the best brembo discs I can get with all the holes, grooves, UV etc that is 340mm but I don't know if they exist. 

 

Thanks

If in doubt why not just measure the discs you have fitted - you MUST NOT fit 312 discs in place of 340s as the pads will only partially cover the discs with potential catastrophic results.

 

You should have 340mm disc on a 14 VRS but a tape measure is the certain way to check. Why do you want drilled drilled and grooved discs, grooves could be helpful if you track the car but drilled discs have been known to crack. For road use the 340mm brakes should be all you ever need, they are very effective.

Personally I would stick with OEM brake discs & pads, see if your local TPS sell them to you or check on the forum for Briskoda parts section & send a PM.

But if you want aftermarket discs & pads without breaking the piggy bank

http://www.mtecbrakes.com/brake-discs/skoda/octavia-estate-5e-2013/octavia-estate-2-0-tsi-vrs-05-13-05-16.html

Fronts are 340 & rear are 272 you can get rear brake pads with the discs but they don't seem to advertise front pads!

Use code New10 for 10% off.

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Thanks guys, really appreciate it. I've heard of drilled discs cracking etc (I'd expect cheap eBay ones), but being Brembo I'd expect them to be tried and tested. I don't track the car, but I'm often up in Scotland and the Lake District on the mountain passes, and it mentioned the Brembo drilled and grooved discs help dissipate heat on long downhills. That is the main reason I wanted the Xtra brakes. I'll go measure the discs now and see! Maybe look at the Mtec's.

The DSG will help greatly on downhills and have you really ever had issues with over heating breaks on long downhills in the Lakes or Scotland.

Please share these routes because many might like to drive them.

 

Not heard of cracked discs for many a year but if ones likely to are being sold in the UK that is something the DVSA need to get onto PDQ.

Mtec stuff any good?

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Yeah mine are the 340mm front discs. Brembo offer them but say they are 'in development', although that could mean anything. Looking on Eurocarparts, there seems to be some discs made by 'ATE' which get good reviews and more expensive than the rest (solid discs). They do a type called 'ATE Powerdisc' which is grooved but in a weird pattern to reduce wear etc. A part of me is leaning towards getting solid 340mm discs to maximise surface area and then maybe invest in some better pads. I also heard of some ATE Ceramic pads. Still looking into it all at the moment!

Currently thinking: 340mm solid disc by a good brand, a high-end pad, UV coating the disc in black maybe.

 

 

 

Btw, some of the passes I use often in the Lake District is the Hardknott and Honnister pass. 

 

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Mtec stuff any good?

 

Yeah they seem pretty good, people usually get them with Mintex pads but from what I've read you can get better pads for similar money.

ChrisWvRS,  

I drive them as well in various vehicles, mid week if possible with less around sometimes &  sporting driving but Overheating brakes have never been an issue.

 

The vRS will love it.

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ChrisWvRS,  

I drive them as well in various vehicles, mid week if possible with less around sometimes &  sporting driving but Overheating brakes have never been an issue.

 

The vRS will love it.

 

Can't wait for Spring when the weather actually gets better to spend more time there. Toying with the idea of doing the North Coast 500 this year too in Scotland. 

 

Just watched this video and has helped me make my mind up to be honest in terms of the disc. A solid 340mm disc is best, just a matter of picking which brand of disc/pad now. 

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I did the North Coast 500 a few weeks ago and double that there and back over a couple of days, also done it in 12 hours and no overheating brakes.

After all there are NSL's and caught being too spirited a few times and you can lose your licence.

 

Far better driving routes around than the publicised ones that can be a delight for Police Scotland.

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Just watched this video and has helped me make my mind up to be honest in terms of the disc. A solid 340mm disc is best, just a matter of picking which brand of disc/pad now.

ATE pads and either Brembo or ATE disks get my vote

i can vouch for the ate power discs i have had them in the past and i rated them very highly!

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ATE pads and either Brembo or ATE disks get my vote

 

I can find the ATE standard discs, but no pads for the discs? Do you know where I can find them?

 

i can vouch for the ate power discs i have had them in the past and i rated them very highly!

 

Did you have these on an octavia vrs? if so where did you find them from?

All TSI (petrol) vRSs are fitted with the larger 340mm brakes.

It was only the diesel vRS which reduced the brake disk size part way through production. (originally 340mm and now 312mm). I think it was around MY16

 

However, as suggested its best to measure before you order as changes to these specs can occur without prior warning as they did for the diesel.

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@ChrisWvRS did you manage to buy any 340mm front discs & pads? I've just checked my front discs today & they could actually do with changing, I rang up a local TPS branch to me who will sell to the public but they want £291.00+vat for front discs & pads :ohmy: which is expensive if I'm honest...

 

I do prefer the solid discs, I was looking around on ebay & found these: FRONT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBC-OE-Front-Brake-Discs-for-Skoda-Octavia-5E-2-0T-vRS-13-340mm-/292031817399?hash=item43fe73e6b7:g:BT4AAOSwTuJYqDBf

 

REAR:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBC-OE-Rear-Brake-Discs-for-Skoda-Octavia-5E-2-0T-vRS-13-272mm-/282383296353?hash=item41bf5b2761:g:zN8AAOSw32lYutuU

 

but you'll need to buy the pads separately & the EBC pads apparently are rubbish, they seem to crack even on the new improved versions!

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/425257-another-reason-to-avoid-ebc-pads/

 

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GSF car parts do OEM plain disks made by Brembo. Not the cheapest but you get what you pay for. 

Cheers flybynite :thumbup: I just spoke to Mike @briskodaparts & he can do them for £252.00 inc vat & delivered, which is pretty reasonable, compared to TPS.

Can I ask a brake related question....

 

I feel my brake peddle on my VRS is becoming a little spongy. I don't know if its my mind but I know I'm due a brake fluid change.

 

Should I do it? My VRS is coming up 4 years this November. I don't know if its something Skoda 'recommend' but it doesn't really need done until further down the line?

 

Opinions? 

 

Cheers. 

If I remember correctly the brake fluid should be changed after 3 years, then every 2 years after.

23 hours ago, BATVANVRS said:

Cheers flybynite :thumbup: I just spoke to Mike @briskodaparts & he can do them for £252.00 inc vat & delivered, which is pretty reasonable, compared to TPS.

 

Briskoda parts section was the best price I got quoted for OEM discs & pads compared to other suppliers of OEM discs n pads etc...& even better than TPS. 

GSF, ECP are quoting & supplying non OEM setup & with the 25% or 30% checkout codes they didn't work out any better than the OEM setup price, because you have to add the pads separately to the discs order & the discs on GSF, ECP are sold separately & not in pairs.

 

I managed to get the front brake discs & pads brand new from Rainworth Skoda in Nottinghamshire (OEM) inc vat & delivery for £229.98.

 

Special offer on the front brake discs (340mm) at the moment £147.99 reduced from £237.05 & the brake pads are an extra £81.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SKODA-FRONT-SET-PAIR-OF-BRAKE-DISCS-340-x-30-1K0615301AD-/332094803492?fits=Car+Make%3ASkoda&hash=item4d52648e24:g:-qoAAOSw9GhYfjP8

 

Ask for Dan in parts department 01623 623 400

 

I purchased by phoning them directly, delivery should be with me for Monday morning. Happy days. B)

 

Here are the rear discs only:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SKODA-PAIR-SET-REAR-BRAKE-DISCS-1K0615601AA-272-x-10MM-/331751754975?fits=Car+Make%3ASkoda&hash=item4d3df20cdf:g:i9YAAOSwT~9Wk4qm

 

But you will need to get a price for the rear pads :thumbup:

 

On Tuesday, March 07, 2017 at 21:20, BATVANVRS said:

If I remember correctly the brake fluid should be changed after 3 years, then every 2 years after.

Just had my brake fluid changed as OEM states after 3 years. Stufan, I'm not surprised your brake pedal is getting spongy, the brake fluid has been degrading for the last year......

Just had my brake fluid done, and I can't say I noticed much if any difference, but it was using up some of the credit I got from Skoda as a good will gesture and there's a fair chance I'll end up keeping this car for a few more years yet. I don't seem to use the brakes much anyway, as they were only lightly worn after 40k and will make it to 100k at this rate. Rear tyres might do 70k!

On 22/01/2017 at 15:15, ChrisWvRS said:

Yeah mine are the 340mm front discs. Brembo offer them but say they are 'in development', although that could mean anything. Looking on Eurocarparts, there seems to be some discs made by 'ATE' which get good reviews and more expensive than the rest (solid discs). They do a type called 'ATE Powerdisc' which is grooved but in a weird pattern to reduce wear etc. A part of me is leaning towards getting solid 340mm discs to maximise surface area and then maybe invest in some better pads. I also heard of some ATE Ceramic pads. Still looking into it all at the moment!

Currently thinking: 340mm solid disc by a good brand, a high-end pad, UV coating the disc in black maybe.

 

 

 

Btw, some of the passes I use often in the Lake District is the Hardknott and Honnister pass. 

 

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Standard pads and standard 312mm disks were fine there in a fully loaded Octy Estate, so I don't think you'll have any problems.

I'd be more concerned about your clutch :P

When braking do any of you notice the box shifting down and effecting braking? 

 

Its hard to explain but it's as if the discs are warped slight and when braking you notice light a high spot on the disc and feel it through the whole car. 

 

I dont know if it's the discs, pads, or that I have just never had a DSG box in such a quick car and it's the combination of gearbox/engine braking. 

 

 

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