Just wondering if anyone here uses Millers Ecomax in their diesel cars. Seems a little of people in the Land Rover forums swear by the stuff.

 

I have used it regularly in my DefenDersingham with the 2.4 and 2.2 DPF engines withheld good results. 

 

Yesterday I collected my 1st Yeti with a the 2.0 DSG engine and not yet had to fill up so it will be either a premium brand or a standard diesel with Millers.

 

Thanks

I use it all the time and have done for many years. No problems wih the car. I probably don't need to as I only use Shell fuel. I'd certainly reconmend using it if you use supermarket fuel. I find it cheaper per tankfull than 'Super diesel'.

I left myself a mental note to ask on here if anyone uses additives in their fuel and if any had been proven to work or make any difference with modern day diesel. Might give this Millers stuff a look, if it seems to clean things up and keep those expensive injectors nice and clean.

used Millers on my Defender but not sure about these newer engines with adblue. Don't want to risk any issues. 

On the Defender it made a huge difference and ran smoother when used with standard diesel. I did not add it to premium diesel such as BP Ultimate.

 

 

Hello R1100, yes, been using the various reincarnations of the Millers diesel additive since c1988, when I first saw it promoted and advertised (in the then just-launched Diesel Car magazine), that was in a Mk1 Astra 1600LD (indirect injection, naturally aspirated), then Rover Maestro 2litre DI, then VW Mk3 Golf CL Umwelt IDI TD (later intercooled), then Ford Fiesta 1.4tdci, then Skoda Fabia Mk1 1.4tdi, now Skoda Roomster 1.9PD tdi; also in various work vans.

And yes, it works, gets them through the MOT smoke test with a very clean exhaust reading. Also keeps the MPG figures high, and the quicker startup helps batteries to last longer. Have introduced it to numerous family and friends/colleagues. 

Richard

Must admit I have tried a couple of bottles of millers in my Fabia VRS and noticed no difference, I have tracked the MPG since I brought the car and the millers made no difference at all.

Have used it for the 5 years I have owned this car and at a rate of 50ml for every tank. When I first got it the car had quite a stutter if you really jumped on the loud pedal. Started using this and this problem disappeared in no time. Done about 27,000miles in that time and lots of short journeys and nearly all on 'supermarket' diesel. Seen the DPF light just once or twice in that time and the emissions get cleaner every MOT. At the last one it even was put as an advisory because the emissions were so low it didn't trigger the machine to produce a print out.

Edited 7 March, 20179 yr by hatchy

I use additives all the time and never had problem with fuel system.

 

Fuel economy improves about 5-10%...in my case 600km vs 650km per 55l fuel tank

 

With bad fuels (such as in Czech Republic and basically any corrupt country) it adds necessary cetans for smooth cold start and low rev engine output...otherwise there is little difference in performance perception on high quality fuels. Common fuels, no matter how they are called, are bad for engine...usually corrosive to injectors, poor lubricating and usual marketing crap.

 

I used German VIF and now Czech Envirox..an Czech Army study of Envirox showed 50% reduction in sooth (army trucks Tatra) and about 20% sooth reduction in Land Rover SUV.

 

With independently tested fuel additive..."nothing" can go wrong... well I have heard stories from my friend - he was using VIF additive and it became partially solid over winter and clogged fuel filter...but you don't have -20° C temperatures in UK

The UK gets Winter Spec Diesel Delivered to Filling Stations for Petrol's and Diesels and the Diesel is to stop Waxing both in Filling Station Tanks and in Vehicles as -20*oC is not necessary to have Diesel Fuel waxxing. 

EU Fuel standards are obviously applying across the UK & the EU or even just Europe, and vehicles leaving the UK with fuel in the tanks might well reach counties where -20*oC can be the ambient temp.

 

PS

The UK does get temperatures of -20*oC and lower.

Edited 18 March, 20179 yr by Awayoffski

Europe has winter no-paraffin fuels and summer as well. 

Edited 19 March, 20179 yr by Gizmo68
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Sorry lost me, does seat supply fuel?

in use since mid 90's   but the newer bottles are crap  old design mutch better

some interesting stuff here    http://www.oilem.com/tag/fuel-additive/

I used millers diesel clean in my 2001 megane pretty regularly, it definitely reduced smoke and made a marginal improvement in economy. I stopped using it for about 18 months and yes it got dirtier. When I got a new bottle you could really tell! Its now done 195,000 miles and no major engine work, touch wood! I pretty much always use Tesco fuel which I have found gives as good mpg as Shell/Esso.

 

I haven't decided whether to use it in my new Octavia though. I'll probably add it to a tank full every few months.

 I use 2-EHN, google it, which is a diesel cetane - as opposed to octane - booster, so converting my standard Tesco diesel to diesel+, super or whatever they are branded as. You will find that most of the branded additives are just this with bulkers such as paraffin. I add 60 to 80 cc per tankfull (40 litres), and also add about 100 cc of low ash (JASC spec) 2 stroke oil, again google will throw up all sort of stories about its suitability. The 2-EHN costs about £12 per litre which is extremely competitive on price, and the percentage added (1.5 to 2) is much lower, compared to the branded additives.

 Quote from hyperlinked page above - As demonstrated above, some of what you find in diesel conditioners are already in premium fuels except with additives you pay less and get much more for your money.  Every premium pump diesel uses 2-EHN for cetane index increase.  Most diesel fuel conditioners use 2-EHN too as the primary ingredient!

Edited 18 March, 20179 yr by KeithCheetham
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