There has been a few posts on here recently with wrong supplied springs / incorrect height / incorrect spring rate, especially for different models e.g. scout / vRS / SE models etc. and clearly there are a variety of Genuine Spring derivatives for different models.

 

I have helped out once or twice by looking at the spring colour coding on my vRS springs.  I was always under the impression the Combi (estate) had a higher rate on the rear and a higher load rating but when I look at the springs on my vRS Combi they appear identical to the hatch colour coding.

 

Front: Red, White, Lilac

Rear: Yellow / Blue

Pr code: 2UC

 

Then, when I look in the technical supplement with the vehicle > 11/10, the axle loads listed are:

Front / Rear 1,030 / 940 kg

Front / Rear 1,000 / 1,070 kg Class N1

(I'm assuming DQ6 is DSG and M6 is manual transmission, so mine is DQ6)

 

Even taking the highest of each of the two ratings, (I'm not sure of the relavance of the Non N1 rating), they are within the 1100kg most springs are rated for the hatch. Therefore, it doesn't seem that the vRS Combi does use different spings, not in UK or at the time my vehicle was made.

 

So I should use the Hatch version of spring kits with 1100kg ratings like the B12 kit rather than the specific estate version which ups the rear to 1150kg? Or should it be on 1150kg rated items if going aftermarket that most of the suspension product finders match to?

 

Thoughts or comments?

 

Edited 26 April, 20179 yr by TheClient

I don't think it's as simple as estate vs hatch.

 

You mentioned PR-2UC but that only applies to front suspension where there are 4 different springs in ETKA depending on weight. In your case it's probably PR-L58 based on the paint codes but PR-L55, PR-L59 and PR-L62 also appear.

 

As for the rear suspension, it's probably either PR-1JC or PR-1JS. This gives 11(!) different spring options depending on weight. This time it's probably PR-0YD based on your paint codes but the full list is PR-0YA, PR-0YB, PR-0YC, PR-0YD, PR-0YE, PR-0YF, PR-0YG, PR-0YH, PR-0YJ, PR-0YK and PR-0YL.

 

The springs can be shared between estate/hatch models but I expect Skoda choose based on the engine, gearbox, trim and possibly even any additional options fitted.

 

If you want replacement OEM springs, I'd suggest you check both the PR codes and paint dots.

If you want aftermarket springs, I'd check the VIN plate for maximum axle loads rather than trusting the manual.

Interesting, great reply thanks.

 

Pics below: Axle loading on Vin match the manual tech supplement for the NON N1 ratings (why they list both not sure).

 

Front seems to be L58, as you say, on PR code listing.

 

Can't see any of the rear PRs you mention on my sticker. Maybe has not been included on the PR code listing provided in the car?

 

I'm still deciding what to replace with (OEM or aftermarket) but when ever I look at B12kits or Eibach springs they want to give me the Estate version of the springs which is 1150kg rating on rears rather than the hatch at 1100kg. But it looks like the combi specific version would be overdone even though the comparability charts and finders all suggest RS Combi fitment.

 

In reality, I don't know how much difference 50kg rating would really make across 2 springs though.... Doesn't seem a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 April, 20179 yr by TheClient

The sticker is only a partial list of PR codes as the full list won't fit. A friendly dealer should be able to provide a full list otherwise you can use erwin to get it but you'll need to pay.

 

I would probably stick to the estate springs even if the maximums is much greater that yours. After all, it is a maximum rather than a minimum. You could always ring Blistein to confirm?

 

I guess part of this is that although Skoda have 10's of springs per model, Blistein and others only seem to make a couple of options and then group cars into larger categories.

Good points. Thanks.

 

I think you're right, as when I look at a few posts on axle loading, I think some mk2 combis do list 1100kg front . 1150kg rear axles, so the comparability charts and lookups of aftermarket items use the maximum load of the type of vehicle, to maintain cross comparability and as you say there is usually only 1 or 2 spring derivatives on aftermarket brands, unlike genuine.

 

In my case, the loadings appear pretty much identical to hatch and 1150kg Bilstein quote for recommended fitment for the B12 rear axle load maximum is say 210kg more than the compliance maximum load of 940kg on the rear, which must be starting to get noticeable.  Before I order I will call them and see if they can shed any light...but agree they are maximums anyway....

 

Edited 26 April, 20179 yr by TheClient

RS has got 2cm shorter springs compared to standard model.

 

RS has got higher spring rates

 

Combi usually have higher spring rates on rear axle

 

I never investigated colors of OEM springs. They will most likely be all same with +- 5% different spring rates