Help - Skoda Yeti using too much oil

[Ootohere]

5w 40 Full Synthetic to VW 502 00 is perfect for the 1.8TSI on Fixed Servicing, it is the recommended oil by the VW Group when they are not recommending 

Long Life oil suitable for 'Variable / Flexible servicing'. (5w 30 FS LL3 VW504 00)

 

Does honest john still rate Euro 5 1.8TSI's so highly now that 'They' know the Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Component Choice & Quality Control 

of the engines VW built?

Edited 6 July, 2017 by Awayoffski

[VAGCF]

6 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

But surely you would look to a different engine, knowing the weakness of the 1.8 petrol?

I could never see the attraction of that engine when it was available, the 170 diesel seemed a much better option on fuel economy alone.

 

Why feel guilty if you trade it in. At best the dealer will have to fix it under warranty giving the new owner an effectively new engine, at worst the dealer will spot the fault and decline to take it or value it accordingly and you can make an informed decision as to whether to proceed with that particular deal or not - And you would get a warranty of sorts on the replacement.

If it was available with the problems sorted it could have been a contender for my next car, particularly as I will be retiring fully soon and doing less mileage and don't want another diesel due to the increasing complexity and other issues.

 

I have the 2.0 tfsi in the TT and it is a great engine. The 1.2 I have always felt to be too small for me in something like the Yeti and so the 1.8 would be good.

 

If I go for a Karoq it would be with the 1.5 petrol which should give good performance i.e. useful torque. That's if I go with any VWG car of course which is far from certain now.

 

[Centipede]

As you say, Awayoffski, I bet the reputation of Skoda/VW has been tarnished in various ways. What were they thinking ?

 

I see it's possible to get Castrol Edge 5w40, so I am definitely going to try that out. Thanks again for the info.

 

VAGCF, sounds like I have a similar driving profile to you, and the power of the 1.8 is just right for me. The Karoq 1.5 has almost identical power/acceleration specs (including 4 wheel drive), and is also a lot more economical !

[Ju1ian1001]

I have the 1.8tsi in my octy 2, bought from a main dealer in febuary, the had serviced before hand over using 5w30 castrol edge, it used a 750ml in about 700 miles.

 

I have since changed the oil and filter to 5w40 (Halfords SYN fully synthetic which is basically Comma pro tec, so is decent oil) and now only go through about 500ml per 1200 miles, so a lot better. I also do oil changes every 5000 miles rather then the fixed 9200miles, the oil from my old octy was fairly clean at every change, as yet not reached that on this one but on my weekly oil check the oil is always clean and does not feel gritty or metallic or smell burnt.

Edited 7 July, 2017 by Ju1ian1001

[spottydog]

Trouble is using thicker oil is just delaying the inevitable.

[Ootohere]

Actually it is not to do with using 'Thicker oil' but an oil that suits the needs of the TSI better than the 'Long Life' possibly short engine life oil.

Easy to use the 5W 40 FS (VW 502 00) and notice the Indicated Oil Temp difference, and the lower oil consumption on some engines from 

running the car, changing the Oil & Filter then running the car as you were 30 minutes later.

[spottydog]

21 hours ago, Awayoffski said:

Actually it is not to do with using 'Thicker oil' but an oil that suits the needs of the TSI better than the 'Long Life' possibly short engine life oil.

Easy to use the 5W 40 FS (VW 502 00) and notice the Indicated Oil Temp difference, and the lower oil consumption on some engines from 

running the car, changing the Oil & Filter then running the car as you were 30 minutes later.

 

I agree, but the problem is already there as it's a design fault, so using 40 instead of 30 isn't curing the fault just masking it for a while longer.

 

[Ootohere]

Not true in some cases, actually in many cases,

there are TSI engines in cars that have been rejected and bought back by dealerships and then sold in trade again with no Actions Taken so still an oil user, and a change of Oil to 5w 40 FS and a filter that is not the VW Silver one and super unleaded used and then a reduction in bore wash and no longer an oil user.

I have just sold one that was rejected in 2011 as an oil user and sold as a used car and 6 years and 65,000 miles later still does not use oil if it is 5w 40 FS.

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues 

http://volkswagen.co.uk/need-help/owners/Fuel 

 

There are VW Specialists and Techs that know all about the Fundamental Design & Manufacturing Faults, and Software and consumable issues, and know that VW Group are not going to openly accept the issues or even change Servicing Schedules / Guidelines and advice on their big profit earners Castrol / Quantum.

There are Techs that know the different oil can improve greatly not only performance / efficiency but also longevity, 

and reduce oil consumption and engines failing.

http://seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=407682 

Edited 9 July, 2017 by Awayoffski

[wiilydog]

5w40 will offer better protection too and worth giving it go as spend £4k on a repair is pure madness.

 

Pretty sure Vw used 5w30 for chasing after fuel economy/emission gains and if they wanted to could of made a long life 5w40 oil.

[Centipede]

Hi all,

I changed the oil + filter a couple of days ago. The previous oil change was by Skoda, 4,000 miles before.

The oil was really black (like old used diesel oil), and there were small pieces of carbon in it.

I have changed to 5w40, and the oil consumption seems exactly the same – going down quite fast.

The colour of the new oil seems to be changing quite quickly - already getting dark.

The oil temperature is also getting quite high – up to 121 degrees after about 10 miles of driving (tho this had developed before the oil change).

As before – power seems good, and you’d think there was absolutely nothing wrong until you noticed the oil.

I just think there is something seriously wrong – who knows what ! Turbo problems, blocked oilways, shot bearings somewhere, etc.. Probably a few things interacting.

Anyway, I just want a car that works, and for £4,000 I’ll have an engine which will hopefully have all the problems sorted and do a lot of miles.

[Ootohere]

Sadly it sounds as though buying luck white heather or the 5W 40 is not going to save spending £4,000.

 

Not even sure if the price will be only £4,000, but likely it can be as VW will be supplying the engine free or very cheaply as they know the Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Components & Quality Control failings were down to them.

Edited 9 July, 2017 by Awayoffski

[Yetski]

On 09/07/2017 at 16:35, Centipede said:

Hi all,

I changed the oil + filter a couple of days ago. The previous oil change was by Skoda, 4,000 miles before.

The oil was really black (like old used diesel oil), and there were small pieces of carbon in it.

I have changed to 5w40, and the oil consumption seems exactly the same – going down quite fast.

The colour of the new oil seems to be changing quite quickly - already getting dark.

The oil temperature is also getting quite high – up to 121 degrees after about 10 miles of driving (tho this had developed before the oil change).

As before – power seems good, and you’d think there was absolutely nothing wrong until you noticed the oil.

I just think there is something seriously wrong – who knows what ! Turbo problems, blocked oilways, shot bearings somewhere, etc.. Probably a few things interacting.

Anyway, I just want a car that works, and for £4,000 I’ll have an engine which will hopefully have all the problems sorted and do a lot of miles.

 

Hi,

 

Appreciate really old thread, but im in the same situation as you were - my Yeti 1.8TSi (2011) is drinking 2 litres every 400 miles now with no visible oil leaks so rather than waste £££ getting the thing diagnosed - Ive asked a couple of VAG specialists to quote for a replacement recon'd engine 

 

Was wondering how yours has gone since you paid £4k etc

 

cheers

 

 

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