On ‎14‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 16:09, fabdavrav said:

 

. . . I like to push the envelope within the legal limits, & really feel that I am driving, (I was taught by a rally driver & test driver ex Ford/Mitsubishi/etc)...& I can do this in a lower engine car. To get the same feeling in an MK7 Golf R you are very deep into losing your licence....& as there are no proper racing tracks near me (only old runways) I prefer a nippy car at the expense of outright top speed of over 140mph

 

 

Unfortunately, the "legal limit envelope" is extremely small now and doesn't take much pushing, so we could all get by with any old car as we tootle from A to B in silly traffic jams, with Sunday drivers who can't even drive at the road limit and all sorts of speed reducing tricks like cameras and lower and lower limits on what were our favourite roads.

 

In all honesty, it's getting harder and harder to "push the envelope" and get some fun out there.  And I like it as much as the next man, on 4 wheels and 2.

 

 

51 minutes ago, Alpha2110 said:

This is the reason higher powered bmw 330 and 335 only come in auto, so the throttle imput can be backed off momentarily so the clutch plate dosent get knackered. 

 

 

 

If your leave your foot on the accelerator when changing gear in a manual your going to ruin the clutch whichever mode you are in

2.0 184 BHP Vrs TDI, tried ECO mode after reading how it improved peoples MPG, tried for a full tanks worth of driving. Mixed driving over the tank as normal. No difference to the total mileage at all.

 

The only difference was that I may as well have been towing an anchor behind me, no response out of the car, the wifes Citigo had a better response than the Vrs in ECO mode.

 

Never had it out of Sport since, still returning 49-52MPG over a tank 31K in, (correct calculation done, not taken of the dash average).

13 hours ago, SuperbTWM said:

 

If your leave your foot on the accelerator when changing gear in a manual your going to ruin the clutch whichever mode you are in

Of course it is, thats wasn't the point i was making. 

 

My point is autos, ie automated manuals do this better than a person ever could, and by sharpaning tne throttle responce its much harder to back off the throttle of in a manual in this mode.

I've even found a new way to get 49mpg on a 36mile trip out of my 1.4TSI manual in sport mode......

 

Don't use 6th gear!!

 

Then driving the 60mpg roads these days most people are doing 50ishmph...don't use 6th gear, leave it in 5th & car is 2000-2200rpm which is best.

 

My usual was 44mpg in 6th gear on same roads conditions...

2 hours ago, fabdavrav said:

I've even found a new way to get 49mpg on a 36mile trip out of my 1.4TSI manual in sport mode......

 

Don't use 6th gear!!

 

Then driving the 60mpg roads these days most people are doing 50ishmph...don't use 6th gear, leave it in 5th & car is 2000-2200rpm which is best.

 

My usual was 44mpg in 6th gear on same roads conditions...

That may work for you but it is not my experience.

Anything over 60kph on a flat road and there is a noticeable difference in displayed 'instant ' consumption between 6th and the other gears. 

My optimal economical revs are about 1600 rpm in whatever gear for our very low (40/50/60 kph) local urban speed limits with a very (very) light throttle. I tend to accelerate in 2nd to get to the speed limit and short shift so I don't get in anyone's way.

 

Having said that I occasionally do a 4th gear run for a 50km stretch of 110kph limit just to shake off the carbon deposits a bit (we do far too many very short urban runs) and that section rises by a few hundred metres overall and average consumption is only adversely affected by about 1L/100 which really surprises me. The engine is so smooth and quiet that the wife in the passenger seat does not even notice when I do it.

4th and 5th are still fairly long gears so consumption would still be good.

7 minutes ago, Gerrycan said:

That may work for you but it is not my experience.

 

 

You have a 1.4TSI, what output?...mine is the 140PS version...with manual gearbox & 225/45R17 tyres..

58 minutes ago, fabdavrav said:

 

You have a 1.4TSI, what output?...mine is the 140PS version...with manual gearbox & 225/45R17 tyres..

Yup, the same (103kw=140bhp) manual and tyres (still on original Dunlop Sportmaxx).

Bought new in 2014 here in Adelaide so the 3 year warranty has just expired but it has only done 38k km in that time.

 

Our roads are very heavily policed and even minor infringements of a 2 kph can attract a heavy fine so I just roll with the punches and drive economically and usually have the display on instantaneous consumption so I'm very conscious of what works best for me, but I am probably taking it to the extreme as it is 'my thing' so to speak.

 

The basic 1.4tsi sold here did not have any mode options, or stop/start which pretty much suits me as I choose when to stop the engine in situations I prefer using the good old-fashioned key (except when the wife is in the car as she freaks out that it might not restart).

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Gerrycan said:

Yup, the same (103kw=140bhp) manual and tyres (still on original Dunlop Sportmaxx).

Bought new in 2014 here in Adelaide so the 3 year warranty has just expired but it has only done 38k km in that time.

 

Our roads are very heavily policed and even minor infringements of a 2 kph can attract a heavy fine so I just roll with the punches and drive economically and usually have the display on instantaneous consumption so I'm very conscious of what works best for me, but I am probably taking it to the extreme as it is 'my thing' so to speak.

 

The basic 1.4tsi sold here did not have any mode options, or stop/start which pretty much suits me as I choose when to stop the engine in situations I prefer using the good old-fashioned key (except when the wife is in the car as she freaks out that it might not restart).

 

 

 

 

I have mine like my old Fabia in instantaneous mpg readout...& yes I coded out the stop start with VCDS...& the mode button is not worth it as with VCDS you can permanently set the throttle etc into sport...however mine doesn't like it so have to use the button...

I leave my car in "Custom" mode with the engine in sport, and the other settings at "Normal". I find the MPG is no worse than driving all the time in Eco, and the throttle response is much improved without the daft extra noise and the stiff handling.

On 7/31/2017 at 23:04, vRSAnt said:

 

I think you have to be careful before making boasts and claims about overtaking motorcycles etc etc, then it transpires out they were Harleys and Z750s   I think you held out on us on that information but fair play for fessing up and you were doing it in spiriting jest and in which case that's fine.

 

But is it not all just banter and if you banter about your prowess of "taking" cruiser bikes you can be owed a bit back in return ? or are we required to be extremely tight nit here like a military unit....I didn't sign up to this !

 

Look, I'm now bikeless as I thought it was just a matter of time with driving standards and I've had my fun on 2 wheels....

But a full fat petrol vRS would definitely worry my old bike to a fair extent ( standard, 955i with 149hp) and that would have been 12 years old if I hadn't sold it this year,

but a 1.4 Octy would not have worried me at all, but I'm sure you know this.

 

I think the vRS ( particularly a mapped on) might have on top speed, but not acceleration......and at top speeds I'd have got a bit worried about quite a few factors, but much, much more expensive equipment would be shown a clean set of heels by even a relatively old superbike.

And they even make 600cc bikes closer to 900cc performance sports bikes now due to weight etc, so I hope you weren't really racing them poor old bikes

 

To be honest getting into full chat on a bike though can be quite intimidating conditions depending which is so many variables on a bike. S'why I decided to get out of it because despite touch wood having been relatively clean there is always that time when something might go wrong, so I decided to stick to ( more boring ) 4 wheels. Sorry but even vRS is more boring. Even a mapped Golf R would be more boring. This is life, bikes are better than cars for cost/performance ratio I'm afraid. Every car loses

 

Triumph Daytona by chance? Nice bike!

 

TLDR: Get another bike, maybe a smaller one!

 

Tried a Sprint RS a few years back - beautiful creamy triple and plenty of poke, but went for a Street Triple instead. Similar power, including overtakes, but far more agility and a bit more zing at top. As much as I like my VRS, doesn't hit the same spot or make me grin like my Street! Like @fabdavrav is saying, riding/driving a less powerful bike or car that's good handling can be more fun and less fear of losing license. If people are scared of performance or other road users, advanced tuition can guide when to use performance in the right place and react better to changing surroundings. In a similar vain, no point buying a Golf R to drive around like Miss Daisy.

 

Reading and reacting to the road and conditions ahead would play a bigger part than eco vs sport, although I'd think in heavy traffic eco would help with a/c efficiency. Although bike wins again on efficiency, I'm getting around 50mpg and don't hang about - but no speeding.