Want Factory DRLs run with low beam

[zolic]

Greetings everyone.

Owner of 2011 Octavia TDI seeking help.

 

I'm trying to make my factory led DRLs run all the time , even when I manually turn light switch full right ( low beam on ) I want them to stay on. At the moment I made my low beam run all the time so at the daytime I have them both on but as soon as it gets dark or I turn the switch full right way , my low beam xenons come on and DRLs turn completely off. I read other have them dimm or stay on , but my go full off. Greetings , forgive typing errors if you come across any.

[zolic]

few pics

[langers2k]

Got a VCDS autoscan?

 

 

Not sure if this is a trick of the light or not... Do you have sidelights fitted?

 

[zolic]

If you mean those lights under side mirrors which light up when I unlock the car , yes I do and one just burned out 5 days ago . I own vcds and cable so I could post auto scan maybe 3 hours from now or so .I have spent around 5 hours trying make working combination in VCDS but seem unable... Thanks for reply

[langers2k]

The ones under the mirrors are puddle lights

 

The sidelights are in the headlights above the low beams and indicator, normally a W5W bulb.

 

It looks like yours are on but they aren't normally fitted to a vRS, at least on the UK spec.

[zolic]

Live pic (hard to see , sunny afternoon overhere)

[langers2k]

Yup, that looks like the sidelight is on.

 

Normally, on a vRS that bulb isn't wired up... Might be worth taking a headlight out and checking if the wiring looks stock or modified.

[zolic]

Ofc they arent working all the time , when car is off ...It lights up when I turn switch to parking lights or when it gets dark and car turns lights on automatically. I bought this car new so I'm only owner and it hasnt anything done to it pretty sure about that. I'll post auto scan in few minutes

Edited 12 October, 2017 by zolic
better explanation

[langers2k]

The spec in Bosnia must be different to the UK.

 

You could also look to see how many wires attach to the rear of the LED DRL.

 

If it's 3 wires then it should be possible, if it's only 2 wires then I doubt it'll support dimming for use as sidelights

[zolic]

Thursday,12,October,2017,15:28:06:64536
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.3.1
Data version: 20161010 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: TMBBE21Z9B2116906   License Plate: 
Mileage: 154560km-96039mi   Repair Order: 

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Chassis Type: 1Z (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72

VIN: TMBBE21Z9B2116906   Mileage: 154560km-96039miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFHC)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 C    HW: 03L 906 018 BR
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   X23 9978  
   Revision: 42X23---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00190012040400080000
   Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018C 003008
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018C.rod
   VCID: 2A5A81B94D033112C2-807E

1 Fault Found:
5286 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) 
          P0121 00 [237] - Implausible Signal
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 154372 km
                    Date: 2017.10.09
                    Time: 10:10:46

                    Engine speed: 528.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 77 C
                    Intake air temperature: 31 C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.300 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 441.9 mg/stroke
                    Throttle valve adapter: specified value: 0.00 %
                    Throttle valve adapter: actual value: 0.89 %
                    Throttle valve adapter: offset closed: -13.37 %
                    Throttle valve adapter: status-Bit 0: 00000000 
                    Throttle valve adapter: status-Bit 16: 00001000 
                    Throttle valve adapter: status-Bit 24: 00110111 
                    Throttle valve adapter: status-Bit 8: 00000010 
                    Throttle valve adapter: uncond voltage actual value: 1021.4 mV

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BD    HW: 1K0 907 379 BD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 113B401C09230000881402E4901F0042300000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 75E062C5DC3D2EEA9F-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BD    HW: 3T0 907 044 BD
   Component: Climatronic   H16 0402  
   Revision: 00006001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 75E062C5D43D2EEA9F-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 J    HW: 1K0 937 087 J
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   103 0615  
   Revision: 00103 AD    
   Coding: 46000AB8E83308C040480084150091EC477000AE72208160808420040040
   Shop #: WSC 31342 313 177557
   VCID: 387EABF18BAF938244-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 07021  26  0601 
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 100211 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0730ED

1 Fault Found:
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 159
                    Mileage: 154396 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.03.02
                    Time: 13:12:06

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 13.90 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1Z0-919-475-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 919 475 E    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0005  
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number: 28291102612354
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00090
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18SKxxx0000.rod
   VCID: 4384CC1DCA69C05AE1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q2 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PC239Y8I  
   Coding: 0020786
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 3D70BAE5648DB6AA97-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5B126F06H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME5B154C6DT

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AH    HW: 5K0 953 569 A
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110127200094
   Coding: 0082040000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS.rod
   VCID: 73E45CDDDA4930DAB1-8026

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537     HW: 3T0 959 537   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 843 M    HW: 1Z0 920 843 M
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110C00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00090
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 428AC919D573C952EA-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 060211F1001640
   Coding: 351302
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 306E93D163DF4BC20C-8064

1 Fault Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 125
                    Mileage: 153884 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.02.17
                    Time: 21:06:36

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADA41B98D83F11202-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AA    HW: 1T0 959 701 AA
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0000246
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 76E265C9013B25F296-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 34669FC157C777E268-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S    HW: 1T0 959 702 S
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0000246
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 489EDB313B4FE30234-801C

1 Fault Found:
00110 - Right Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L132) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1507354
   Shop #: WSC 38810 002 1048576
   VCID: 34669FC157C777E268-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
   Coding: 00000023

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
   Coding: 00000023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 F    HW: 1Z0 035 156 F
   Component: BOLERO        010 0054  
   Revision: 0A001001    Serial number: SKZ1Z3L9435784
   Coding: 0D0004000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00090
   VCID: 3560A2C59CBD6EEA5F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012570
   VCID: 326A99D9ADD379D27A-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012570
   VCID: 33649CDD52C970DA71-8066

No fault code found.

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[langers2k]

Are you sure that's a vRS?

 

Your profile claims it is but:

- The engine code is CFHC which is 140ps, a vRS TDi should be 170ps.

- The instrument cluster is also a non-vRS part number.

 

Based on that scan and the sidelight behaviour, it appears to be a normal Octavia that's had a vRS bumper and lighting fitted.

 

If that is the case, you'll need to do some extra wiring and the recode the BCM lighting configuration with VCP/ODIS (not VCDS) to get the correct vRS behaviour.

[zolic]

Yes its 140HP model ( remapped to 185HP ) and full vrs optic from factory. 

I dont want to dimm , adjust brightness of my DRLs , I wonder if there is command to make them permanently on/off . So no matter full bright or dimmed ,  just want them on with low beams at night.

[langers2k]

They are too bright to be used at night... They need to be dimmed to avoid causing glare to other road users.

 

Assuming you've just reused the existing DRL wiring, it is possible to have them on permanently but you'll need VCP/ODIS.

 

As far as I'm aware, VCDS won't be able to make the change needed.

[zolic]

Ahh...that pulled trigger for me getting vcds ... I guess I'll looking around for other tweaks to make use of it... Thanks for your time , you are very nice person to seek help from.

[zolic]

I see the option but not sure how to use it , if it even matters. 

[mucden]

3 hours ago, zolic said:

I see the option but not sure how to use it , if it even matters. 

As far as I know you can modify the entry box right after Dec1: to set the percentage of the dimming. In my config it's 92x1=92, but Bit7 is unchecked, since I don't use DRL as position light.

 

Have you also checked Byte27, Bit2? I'm not sure, but I think this is also neccessary for drl if you want it active with low beam.

 

 

Edited 12 October, 2017 by mucden

[briVRS]

Howdy folks,

 

My apologies for unearthing an old thread. I'm having a similar issue to the above. My DRLs are running all the time lights on or off. Dim when I turn on the lights etc. Not an issue.

 

I bought a set of W5W LED's for mine. These bulbs don't work at all, never did. Put the new ones in and no joy either. The guy I bought it from said it was because the DRLs are on the car. I've seen the online with both working. The w5w's have wiring at the back of them. I was flicking through the thread and you's have some depth of knowledge RE: the software system on them.

 

I am wondering if I could get the w5w s bulbs to light up when I turn the switch on to the RHS of the steering wheel and keep the drl settings as they are. Can this be done? I would like to get them all running together if at all possible?

[langers2k]

@briVRS - As you have a vRS, you'll probably find there isn't a wire from the BCM to sidelights to power them.

 

There will be wiring inside the headlight as they are the same headlight as non-vRS models.

[briVRS]

So it's not a runner then?

Is it a big job to connect them up and get them running without jeopardising any electrical components in the car?

[pikpilot]

Most people on here have European/UK spec cars where EU regulations require the daytime driving lights must go off when the dip or main beams are on. What are the rules in Bosnia?

[langers2k]

14 hours ago, briVRS said:

So it's not a runner then?

Is it a big job to connect them up and get them running without jeopardising any electrical components in the car?

 

It depends if you want to do it properly

 

Depending on which BCM is fitted, you might have 2 spare pins that can power sidelights. If you do, you'll need to run a wire to each headunit and find someone to reprogram the lighting configuration to turn them on (not possible with VCDS).

 

You might be able to tap into an existing lighting circuit depending what behaviour you want but I wouldn't advise it...

[mucden]

3 hours ago, pikpilot said:

Most people on here have European/UK spec cars where EU regulations require the daytime driving lights must go off when the dip or main beams are on. What are the rules in Bosnia?

 

I only know the Hungarian regulations which should correspond to the EU and probably to the Bosnian regulations. It says, that only one pair of parking/side light may lit on the front of the car. The dimmed DRL is legally used as park/side light, so if it's active, then the regular w5w lights must not work.

Based on this I suppose, that it is not possible to activate DRL as park/side light along with the w5w bulbs using VCDS.

 

But there might be an illegal solution: you should try to reconfigure the front park/side light configuration with VAG can pro. I think if you set the w5w bulbs as DRL instead of park/side light, then the will lit along with the led DRL.

At least I've done this mod with my rear park/side light, and now they work as DRL.

[briVRS]

On 6/8/2018 at 13:28, langers2k said:

 

It depends if you want to do it properly

 

Depending on which BCM is fitted, you might have 2 spare pins that can power sidelights. If you do, you'll need to run a wire to each headunit and find someone to reprogram the lighting configuration to turn them on (not possible with VCDS).

 

You might be able to tap into an existing lighting circuit depending what behaviour you want but I wouldn't advise it...

Thanks for getting back to me. How would I find out the type of bcm? I'd like it done properly. Do you know how to do it? 

[langers2k]

38 minutes ago, briVRS said:

Thanks for getting back to me. How would I find out the type of bcm? I'd like it done properly. Do you know how to do it? 

 

An autoscan with VCDS or similar would give you the part number for the BCM.

 

Otherwise, you could check the sticker on the unit, it should be a roughly 6" square black box above the pedals in the drivers footwell, it'll have 3 large connectors (black, white, gold/brown).

 

I can reprogram the lighting configuration but I'd need access to the BCM which could be tricky with you being based in Ireland.