On ‎24‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 20:38, vadimo said:

found this article: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/karoq/102559/skoda-karoq-led-lighting-technology

 

"The Karoq’s LED headlights are also intelligent. The Adaptive Front Light (AFS) system operates as soon as the lights are turned on, and can change the geometry of the light beam to suit different situations. For example, it projects a wider and shorter beam in town driving to illuminate pavements and crossings, while a different setting is used for high-speed driving which elongates the beam, yet lights up adjacent lanes on motorways. It can also adapt to weather conditions, how heavily laden the car is, and which way the wheels are pointing. It gradually switches between the different settings, so the driver isn’t distracted."

"For an additional £200, the Karoq’s headlights can be further specified with an automatic high-beam function. This uses a windscreen-mounted camera to scan the road ahead, constantly adjusting and dimming individual LEDs to maintain the high beam without dazzling road users. It’s both safer and more convenient because the driver no longer has to flip the full beam off and on each time a car passes."

 

Is this true? The first paragraph describing whats already part of the car's tech? I thought that both of these paragraphs fall under optional adaptive lights package/option?

 

I fond that the lights on Full beam in my SEL are very good with a great white light and brilliant distance viewing.

On 24/02/2018 at 20:38, vadimo said:

found this article: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/karoq/102559/skoda-karoq-led-lighting-technology

 

"The Karoq’s LED headlights are also intelligent. The Adaptive Front Light (AFS) system operates as soon as the lights are turned on, and can change the geometry of the light beam to suit different situations. For example, it projects a wider and shorter beam in town driving to illuminate pavements and crossings, while a different setting is used for high-speed driving which elongates the beam, yet lights up adjacent lanes on motorways. It can also adapt to weather conditions, how heavily laden the car is, and which way the wheels are pointing. It gradually switches between the different settings, so the driver isn’t distracted."

"For an additional £200, the Karoq’s headlights can be further specified with an automatic high-beam function. This uses a windscreen-mounted camera to scan the road ahead, constantly adjusting and dimming individual LEDs to maintain the high beam without dazzling road users. It’s both safer and more convenient because the driver no longer has to flip the full beam off and on each time a car passes."

 

Is this true? The first paragraph describing whats already part of the car's tech? I thought that both of these paragraphs fall under optional adaptive lights package/option?

 

 

No, it isn’t true. It’s technically inaccurate. The LED lighting system in the Karoq doesn’t support a matrix style system where individual LEDs can be dimmed or turned off. The auto high beam is just that, it automatically turns on and off main beam. The article suggests that it can keep main beam on and shape the light to avoid dazzling drivers. This is untrue, it just turns off main beam (which is provided by a separate bank of LEDs to the dipped unit) to stop dazzling and turns them back on again once clear.

 

The Karoqs LED headlights are really good from my own experience but the article from AE reads like a bit of a paid puff piece to me.

They're great, until they mist up.  Mist/condensation confuses the 'auto setup' when they are switched on, which could lead to really dangerous bright lights dazzling oncoming traffic, MOT failure and electrical problems.  There are several Youtube videos covering this topic.  Not a cheap fix!

18 minutes ago, AnotherCPB said:

They're great, until they mist up.  Mist/condensation confuses the 'auto setup' when they are switched on, which could lead to really dangerous bright lights dazzling oncoming traffic, MOT failure and electrical problems.  There are several Youtube videos covering this topic.  Not a cheap fix!

How does mist in the headlights confuse the light sensor that’s mounted on the windscreen?

5 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

How does mist in the headlights confuse the light sensor that’s mounted on the windscreen?

I was thinking the same...

I guess the water in the lens refracts the light.

 

2 hours ago, AnotherCPB said:

They're great, until they mist up.  Mist/condensation confuses the 'auto setup' when they are switched on, which could lead to really dangerous bright lights dazzling oncoming traffic, MOT failure and electrical problems.  There are several Youtube videos covering this topic.  Not a cheap fix!

 

1 hour ago, AnotherCPB said:

I guess the water in the lens refracts the light.

 

You really haven't thought that thru, have you?  

 

Well somebody better tell Skoda and the MOT centre because in the owners manual it says to expect misting on LED headlights, just like it does in every other car with LED headlights.  But who am I to argue to with YouTube.  

Well OK folks perhaps I over reacted.  I bought the car online from a Skoda dealer and it was delivered yesterday on a 20 plate.  I noticed the misting as he pulled up.  I've started reading the manual but not got to the bit you mentioned.  Have contacted them with my fears, not heard back yet, but your response has quelled my fears a little.  Traded a Yeti which had been brilliant so was a bit jittery.  Glad I posted tho' and thanks for your response.  Watching a guy removing and dismantling a BMW M3 light unit with the ballast unit literally dripping water was scary stuff.

That's the problem with LED headlights. A few years ago, everyone was raving about their LED headlights, and I was thinking my Bi-Xenons had been superceded. But having now changed cars and got LEDs instead I can see that they don't generate the heat like my Bi-Xenons did... so the condensation doesn't evaporate, and the snow/ice on the glass doesn't melt off! 

 

They may now be cheaper, and more fuel efficient, but the older technology still wins for me!

Our 64 plate Skoda Yeti never showed signs of condensation in the lights.  I assumed the Karoq had the same incredible lights as the Yeti.  Perhaps the condensation problem has been overcome and is no longer a problem in the newer cars. I have just got to the bit in the Karoq manual that covers condensation so thanks to Scot5 for the heads up.

When it's damp our 3 year old Karoq LED headlights suffer from misting but it passed last month's first MOT with no advisories.

Not sure misting is an issue for MOTs, as long as the beam pattern is OK then it gets the tick. I think.

Further to the discussion on lights. Is it true that Amundsen detects your arrival in mainland Europe and sets the lights accordingly?

Alas my planned holiday to Brittany to see the first few stages of the Tour de France has been cancelled so I have no evidence of this :(

 

Chris

14 hours ago, AnotherCPB said:

Further to the discussion on lights. Is it true that Amundsen detects your arrival in mainland Europe and sets the lights accordingly?

My last trip was in the Karoq but the car didn’t do any settings adjustments - I altered the time and the ‘drive on the right’ business whilst enjoying the immigration queues…..