Oh here we go 

On 29/01/2018 at 23:43, xman said:

No problems provide you put the best tyres on the back. So swap rear to front and new tyres on back.

^^^^

And another plus for this, it's harder to regain control of a vehicle that is trying to switch ends on you, than one losing traction at the front, safety before performance every time.

Most modern vehicles have ESP these days (i know it should not be relied upon) so help's in the event of losing control. Personal preference for me is new tyres on the front as my front end does all the work, they drive, steer and brake so need the best gripping tyres.

Those that install new tyres on the front, do you rotate your tyres every so often? The back tyres will last ages otherwise on an FWD so you end up with old rubber.

3 hours ago, ahenners said:

Those that install new tyres on the front, do you rotate your tyres every so often? The back tyres will last ages otherwise on an FWD so you end up with old rubber.

 

I think I will when my rears finally wear out. It's been ages on the new front ones. 

4 hours ago, ahenners said:

Those that install new tyres on the front, do you rotate your tyres every so often? The back tyres will last ages otherwise on an FWD so you end up with old rubber.

Yes i do every 3 months i pop onto my ramp at work and swap front to back, i have nice even tyre wear on octy.

I think the new tyres on front and rear has been done to death elsewhere, but here's a question:

 

if you have a rear wheel puncture on a FWD car and just have a skinny spacesaver spare would you swap a full size wheel from the front onto the back and put the spacesaver on the front?   

 

I know I wouldn't.   

 

Edited 1 February, 20188 yr by juan27
speeling

What a strange question.

1 minute ago, xman said:

What a strange question.

 

Not if you think your best grip should always be at the back. 

1 hour ago, juan27 said:

 

Not if you think your best grip should always be at the back. 

Space savers are emergency get you home or to a garage tyres. They are marked 50mph max for a reason. Who in their right mind would start swapping round tyres at the side of the road, in middle of the night, while its pouring down in rain, in winter, with hgvs flying past you within an inch of your life? And then take off and drive as if their car was fully fixed with matching tyres and not drive very slowly and carefully.

 

No a strange question that doesn't have any relevance to the topic.

13 minutes ago, xman said:

Space savers are emergency get you home or to a garage tyres. They are marked 50mph max for a reason. Who in their right mind would start swapping round tyres at the side of the road, in middle of the night, while its pouring down in rain, in winter, with hgvs flying past you within an inch of your life? And then take off and drive as if their car was fully fixed with matching tyres and not drive very slowly and carefully.

 

No a strange question that doesn't have any relevance to the topic.

Off topic I know, but on my Evo the space saver wouldn't fit on the front due to the brake calliper so yes if you had a puncture on the front you did have to start swapping tyres around. Back on topic I have always put new tyres on the front even though advice is the other way round, less chance of aqua planning in a straight line, more chance of back ending swapping in corners but oversteer is easier to catch than terminal under steer.

17 hours ago, Mark944gold said:

Off topic I know, but on my Evo the space saver wouldn't fit on the front due to the brake calliper so yes if you had a puncture on the front you did have to start swapping tyres around. Back on topic I have always put new tyres on the front even though advice is the other way round, less chance of aqua planning in a straight line, more chance of back ending swapping in corners but oversteer is easier to catch than terminal under steer.

 

Had the same thing with my Felicia 16v conversion with bigger front brakes. It had 14" alloys, but a 13" steel spare that would only fit on the rear.

 

Don't worry about being off topic, not much of any real relevance to the original question has been posted in this thread for days.   

 

I also tried to put the spacesaver on the back of my VRS this week even though I'd had a front wheel puncture, but couldn't get the rear wheel off (a bit worrying).  It was dark but no rain or HGVs about so I felt fairly safe to spend the extra 5 mins to try and get proper tyres on the front.  

 

My view on the new tyres front or back question is that most of your braking is done by the front tyres so having half worn tyres on the front and new rears must increase your braking distances over the other way round.  This has a potential impact (no pun intended) on every single journey, not just in some extreme and unlikely scenario.  

 

I can only think that tyre companies don't see the braking distance thing  as something that will get them sued, whereas a marginal possibility of oversteer presumably is.  I'm quite happy with my opposite lock ability unlike some other posters (apparently).

 

I note also that putting the new tyres on the rear of a FWD car does mean you'll probably be back sooner for more tyres. Of course it would be cynical to suggest that's a factor.   

    

Absolutely that the newest tyres should be put on the back, but not generally because the ones you have on there are going to have poor grip.

 

It’s all about effective tyre rotation, and the reason manufacturers suggest this is because the rate of wear of rear tyres is generally MUCH slower than front, meaning the rubber degrades and hardens, thus providing worse performance. (If left alone and not rotated)

 

Obviously this is just in the case of FWD cars, which the majority in the UK are. 

Edited 2 February, 20188 yr by GoneToBeemer

Ok here's a curve ball for you.....

 

I put my new tyres on which ever axle the old ones come off.

 

If you do this you can never be wrong

On 2/2/2018 at 04:35, juan27 said:

I think the new tyres on front and rear has been done to death elsewhere, but here's a question:

 

if you have a rear wheel puncture on a FWD car and just have a skinny spacesaver spare would you swap a full size wheel from the front onto the back and put the spacesaver on the front?   

 

I know I wouldn't.   

 

That's more about uneven, mis-matched tyres

 

Oh the dilemma - where to put my new tyres  

 

Life's too short...