Fed up of our contributions to climate change, we are hoping that the Karoq will - in the not too distant future - have a hybrid or even all-electric version available.

We currently run a small petrol and a two litre diesel (Euro6) car. Too much in the way of  C02 and NOX emissions!

Maybe it will come after the Hybrid Fabia, or Fabia based SUV is launched.

 

See this latest edition of Autocar or other mags..

 

 

Skoda Vision X concept teased _ Carbuyer.mhtml

Edited 2 February, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

my local dealer said 2022 for hybrid karoq. Not sure if that's completely trustworthy.

I still cannot figure out the electric hype. The electricity has to be produced somewhere, pollution through battery production and end of life recycle has to be considered, not to mention digging up every road in the UK to double? the electricity supply infrastructure.

 

Why not the hydrogen fuel cell? Hydrogen is all around us and I thought the internal combustion engine can be adapted to burn the stuff giving zero polution.

 

Colin

The Electricity needs produced somewhere to produce the hydrogen, and that will be the renewable generation of electricity, 

then you will use the hydrogen.  so that is part of the revolution.

 

The renewable electricity needs stored, so that is hydro, or battery, and as there is no big scale battery storage, the electricity will go to home and business unit storage and also into vehicle battery packs.

 

Eventually, maybe, come time, like in the next decades.

50 minutes ago, wonkyewok said:

my local dealer said 2022 for hybrid karoq. Not sure if that's completely trustworthy.

 

I heard sometime in 2019.

38 minutes ago, eribaMotters said:

Why not the hydrogen fuel cell?    Hydrogen is all around us and I thought the internal combustion engine can be adapted to burn the stuff giving zero polution.

 

Colin

 

Because the petroleum companies want to control the market.  Its all to do with money and power. 

I agree about Fuel cell cars, unfortunately toyota got their electric hybrid outs first, along with all the hype and advertising,Honda were too slow with their fuel cell :(.

 

The other thing holding about this fuel is the scare tactics around the pressure it needs to be kept under to keep it liquid for transport and storage along with its explosive properties when it reverts to gas and potentially leaks during refill. Never mind the cost extracting.

I would have one in a shot - No range anxiety ( provided there were filling stations)  lot less environmentally damaging to make & get rid of old batteries.

It will be interesting to see how they get around all the electric points for all the EVS only that will be on sale after 2040.

 

But Toyota have Hydrogen cars, and Arnold Clark Aberdeen have trained technicians to service them.

Aberdeen having Hydrogen filling stations, and busses, and vans, and plenty renewable electricity generated very near to produce hydrogen.

Aberdeen Toyota becomes Scotland's first hydrogen specialist service centre.mhtml

Edited 2 February, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

aside from poor infrastructure and national grind may not have the right capacity at this stage, there is also another concern is how the batteries are being produced: mining and shipping process is dirty process

 

I suspect just like with crude oil, it will involve exploiting 3rd world countries for mining, paying off local militia/warlords/organisations and companies applying the same business ethics as now

 

Eventually it will become main stream, pricing will increase as with diesel when it became popular and someone has to pay for this infrastructure upgrades 

 

and the cycle repeats 

16 hours ago, lfc958 said:

It will be interesting to see how they get around all the electric points for all the EVS only that will be on sale after 2040.

 

 

The new London plan (currently out for consultation, but due to be adopted in Autumn 2018) has specified all new parking spaces (residential and business) must be 20% EV fitted on opening, another 20% (so 40%) prewired and other 60% designed to be converted.

 

Absoluely no idea where the electricity for this will come from (virtually every London power station has been closed in last 40 years), or if cables are big enough to take this huge electric load.  But presumably mayor Sadiq Khan doesn’t worry about that bit.

 

 

 

London Population 8.3 Million,  Population of Scotland 5.3 million.

 

Not everyone needs cars, and not everyone in London and the area needs cars,  but they need electricity,  so if they are mot having Coal Generation, or Gas or Oil 

then the region better get on with the Wind Farms, Tidal / Wave production and building the New Nuclear or just stick with buying in from elsewhere.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42495883 

 

Odd that Electricity is cheaper where they produce less of it and yet use the most.

 

 

Edited 4 February, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

Even London streets are parking nightmares ( rammed ) and based on those % figures there still wont be enough points, never mind outside London.

 

A recent conversation with a friendly local sparkie mentioned that he has been getting an increase in work installing EV points, he did however point out that at plugin the car immediatly takes 32 amps, you cannot have anymore than 2 EV points as Homes are only rated for around 75 amps, even with plugging in 2 cars you run the risk of blowing your house circuit when you start using items indoors,  Now expand that and can the National grid or even your local substation cope with all the EV's plugging in between 5 & 6 pm when people get home ? 

 

This MIGHT have been thought about  but no one is saying anything.

 

I would bet that changing petrol stations to Hydrogen would be cheaper than sorting electricity generation and supplying enough EV access points. All the safety around hydorgen transportation and storage MUST be 99.9999% sorted given there are manufacturing places already creating Liquid hydrogen.

Hybrids (and later, electric) Skodas on their way: http://www.skoda-auto.com/news/news-detail/all-electric-vehicles

By the time all that comes around, certainly my Yeti and probably my Karoq will both be worn out anyway. Then I'll consider electric or hybrid. I certainly wouldn't be waiting now.