4 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

To be honest I'd rather watch formula W (and that's from someone who generally loathes women's sport). Championship leader Jamie Chadwick is a prospect though. She beat all the lads in MRF formula (the Asian F3 championship in effect) to win the title.

Remember her getting stuck into the boys in the Ginetta juniors.

Well done Nissan, eDams and Buemi for the win in  the New York race, all to play for today's end of season race.

 

Good couple of months for Buemi with Le Mans and Formula-e wins.

He's very talented. Red Bull have tried to get him back into F1, but with works WEC and FE contracted drives he told them to take a hike.

 

 

Edited 14 July, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

I've tried, I really have tried, but I just cannot get excited by Formula E. I don't know if it is the lack of noise, the cars that look they were built for a Transformers movies, the artificial 'exciters', tracks that are so narrow it is virtually impossible to overtake or some of the quite dreadful driving standards, but I have remained completely cold to it. I will try again next season.

1 hour ago, tweenster said:

I've tried, I really have tried, but I just cannot get excited by Formula E. I don't know if it is the lack of noise, the cars that look they were built for a Transformers movies, the artificial 'exciters', tracks that are so narrow it is virtually impossible to overtake or some of the quite dreadful driving standards, but I have remained completely cold to it. I will try again next season.

Even when the locations are "glamorous" like New York it still looks like racing in a car park. Birmingham's F3000 street track was way superior to FE venues. Even RedBull Soapbox Derby is more exciting.

I went to the launch test day at Donnington, and wasn't impressed, just sounded like a load of tube trains arriving together, just the whine of the transmission and the only car sound was the occasional tyre squeal. 

 

The couple of races I've seen since on TV were dire, the circuits were just too narrow to allow any serious racing/overtakes and the first couple of series where they had to pit to change car was a joke 

What they said, and between camera positions and livery designs pretty much unable to tell which team is which!

Already Porsche owners are complaining that the new 911 (designated 992) is too quiet without the optional sports exhaust so when Porsche enter Formula E next season wonder how many will be knocking on the showroom doors screaming they want an all electric 911.

On 14/07/2019 at 13:22, lol-lol said:

Well done Nissan, eDams and Buemi for the win in  the New York race, all to play for today's end of season race.

 

Good couple of months for Buemi with Le Mans and Formula-e wins.

 

Shame that the dictatorial FE rule makers have outlawed the current Nissan, so having taken a technical decision to do something unique that made them faster, they now have barely 5 months to go back to what everyone else is doing (but with a whole years less experience of doing it).

 

Unfair.

 

 

Edited 22 July, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

12 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

Shame that the dictatorial FE rule makers have outlawed the current Nissan, so having taken a technical decision to do something unique that made them faster, they now have barely 5 months to go back to what everyone else is doing (but with a whole years less experience of doing it).

 

Unfair.

 

 

One person's idea of innovation is often seen as cheating by those not so clever as to think of the original idea. Brabham's fan car in F1 springs to mind.

Yeah and in both cases the car was legal under the rules that stood at the time it was produced.

 

FE claims to encourage innovation but that's clearly utter tripe now. It's all about putting on a green-pleasing show with SuperMarioKart gimmicks.

 

Nissan were given a waiver to continue using their twin motor car all the way through the 18-19 season but told it had to go for next year ( because it was clearly faster ).

 

Nissan should have challenged FE at the Motorsports World Council and forced all the others to try harder and catch up with them.

28 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

Yeah and in both cases the car was legal under the rules that stood at the time it was produced.

 

FE claims to encourage innovation but that's clearly utter tripe now. It's all about putting on a green-pleasing show with SuperMarioKart gimmicks.

 

Nissan were given a waiver to continue using their twin motor car all the way through the 18-19 season but told it had to go for next year ( because it was clearly faster ).

 

Nissan should have challenged FE at the Motorsports World Council and forced all the others to try harder and catch up with them.

Thought you deserved your 2,000th point so there you go.

Ludicrous headline in Autosport says "FE to get own Eau Rouge at London race"

 

Really?

 

At the ExCeL?

 

In the Car Park?

 

I can't wait.....Zzzzzzzzz

Magna BMW take 3 of the 6 podiums in Saudi as well as Poles..

Well done Porsche as well.  More excitement than a season of F1 

 

As BMW say -

"The most innovative race series in the world.

In action on street circuits around the world, Formula E wows spectators with thrilling races, pioneering technology and a unique atmosphere. Always on hand is BMW i Motorsport. "

 

 

Edited 23 November, 20196 yr by lol-lol

It may be me but I watched yesterday's race from start to finish and I did not find it exciting. The tracks are very narrow not allowing much room for overtaking or different lines around the corners. Offline it was very dirty and getting too close to the walls was dicing with death. I also cannot see the reason for "fan boost" and "attack mode" why not just let them race normally?

 

However I do agree that, unfortunately,  Formula 1 is going through a boring patch.

6 hours ago, Liger1956 said:

It may be me but I watched yesterday's race from start to finish and I did not find it exciting. The tracks are very narrow not allowing much room for overtaking or different lines around the corners. Offline it was very dirty and getting too close to the walls was dicing with death. I also cannot see the reason for "fan boost" and "attack mode" why not just let them race normally?

 

However I do agree that, unfortunately,  Formula 1 is going through a boring patch.

 

Agree completely. It looks and sounds like Scalextric with the voltage turned down racing around a large indoor kart track.

 

Cant see these 3 BMW podiums in the results either - apart from Alex SIms win in race 2. 

Edited 23 November, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

Also. due to paint "schemes", camera angles, and "numbering" I can't actually tell the cars apart as a rule.

awful 'sport' I have gave it a go a few times but fell asleep everytime.

 

street circuits are generally crap venues and that's all formula e is with short straights as the cars probably top out at 50 mph

Edited 17 December, 20196 yr by BigJase88

1 hour ago, BigJase88 said:

awful 'sport' I have gave it a go a few times but fell asleep everytime.

 

street circuits are generally crap venues and that's all formula e is with short straights as the cars probably top out at 50 mph

 

I agree its not....??? entertaining?

 

Barely even proper street circuits for Formula E. Industrial estates and car parks mostly. 

 

But Its not going away soon, with so many manufacturers involved... until they get bored, like they periodically do with F1, and frequently do with WEC, - and at that point it will implode.

Edited 17 December, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

1 hour ago, camelspyyder said:

 

I agree its not....??? entertaining?

 

Barely even proper street circuits for Formula E. Industrial estates and car parks mostly. 

 

But Its not going away soon, with so many manufacturers involved... until they get bored, like they periodically do with F1, and frequently do with WEC, - and at that point it will implode.

Milkfloat racing for failed / retired past their best F1 drivers is all it is.

 

sebastien buemi is a big thing in formula e is he not? He is a pudding

4 hours ago, BigJase88 said:

Milkfloat racing for failed / retired past their best F1 drivers is all it is.

 

sebastien buemi is a big thing in formula e is he not? He is a pudding

 

Buemi is bloody fast.

 

He turned down a F1 return at RedBull, (and  then they ****ed about with Gasly and Albon instead) so Marko and Horner really rate him.

 

Why did he knock them back?  I know they treat their drivers like consumables, but he must be making serious money from formula E (and WEC for Toyota) to refuse them?

 

2 long term manufacturer deals in the bag is obviously worth more to him than a possibly one season shot at being Max side-kick. But then no-one is going to look good in the second RedBull right now - not even Hamilton or Vettel.

 

 

Edited 17 December, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

3 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

Buemi turned down a F1 return at RedBull, (and  they ****ed about with Gasly and Albon instead) so Marko and Horner really rate him.

 

Why did he knock them back?  I know they treat their drivers like consumables, but he must be making serious money from formula E (and WEC for Toyota) to refuse them?

 

2 long term manufacturer deals in the bag is obviously worth more to him than a possibly one season shot at being Max side-kick. But then no-one is going to look good in the second RedBull right now - not even Hamilton or Vettel.

 

 

Vettel is done has been for a couple of seasons.

 

Hamilton could match Verstappen would be 50/50 with Lewis coming out on top with maturity IMO

7 minutes ago, BigJase88 said:

Vettel is done has been for a couple of seasons.

 

Hamilton could match Verstappen would be 50/50 with Lewis coming out on top with maturity IMO

 

Honestly, I think Verstappen would out qualify Hamilton 8 out of 10 with both in the Red Bull, and probably beat him over a season. It would be like Senna vs Prost at McLaren.

 

Mercedes would take Verstappen tomorrow as team leader, but not alongside Lewis because it would be too disruptive - two bulls in the same field.

 

 

Edited 17 December, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

29 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

Honestly, I think Verstappen would out qualify Hamilton 8 out of 10 with both in the Red Bull, and probably beat him over a season. It would be like Senna vs Prost at McLaren.

 

Mercedes would take Verstappen tomorrow as team leader, but not alongside Lewis because it would be too disruptive - two bulls in the same field.

 

 

You do know Lewis Hamilton is all time pole position qualifier right?

 

like as in ALL TIME

 

 

18 hours ago, BigJase88 said:

You do know Lewis Hamilton is all time pole position qualifier right?

 

like as in ALL TIME

 

 

Yes I'm a big fan, but Max is faster over one lap  now and Lewis is past his peak, only got 5 poles this year I think. Charles got 7 and even Valterri got 5. Max always qualifys way up high with 50 bhp less.

Edited 18 December, 20196 yr by camelspyyder