Hey,

 

got a quick question for all you bear owners with full LED lights with AFS function:

 

When you turn on the car, do lights just go up/down or up/down/side-to-side, like on this link??

 

(nevermind the "problem" tag)

 

And what's your perception of the diference between "bend lights normal" and "bend lights sport"?

 

I've got AFS on my Octavia vRS, so if it's the same, then up/down/side-to-side and a bit more wiggling besides. The up/down bit is the auto-levelling that Xenons/LED lights have, the side-to-side is the AFS checking itself out.

 

As for the difference between 'sport' and 'normal', it definitely bends quicker/further at lower speeds in 'sport' mode. I much prefer it and certainly don't think I could get a car without AFS, but my wife says it makes her feel a bit queasy.

TY for info.

 

My car should have AFS (full LED lights, says with AFS in the brochure) but the lights just go up/down (leveling) and not side-to-side. I am mostly driving in Normal mode and sometimes in Individual (normal mode + bend light sport opted) and don't see any difference.

 

I am suspecting that it's not maybe turned on in the programing, because the light modules are proper ones, but why is there a option for bend lights in modes. Will have to call my dealer to get it solved.

Only xenon lights do the side to side check as they use a motor to move the xenon projector for bend lighting.

 

LED systems don't move side to side and instead they turn other LEDs on/off to simulate bend lighting.

 

At least that's my understanding and seems to match what you're seeing.

This is octavia with LED AFS

 

 

 

If you look at the Kodiaq LED there is a lens module in front of low beam that swivels, high beam have what you say but that's for cone lighting change due to speed and incoming traffic.

 

 

The low-beam (right, wide lens) lens moves up/down and should side-to-side too. The high-beam (left cluster) is static. Same as fog lights, they move into a corner too - this works perfectly by me.

6 minutes ago, McGyles said:

This is octavia with LED AFS

 

 

 

Nope... That's a 2013/2014 MK3 Octavia which would have xenons not LED's.

 

LED's weren't fitted until the MK3 FL Octavia and do not go side to side on start up. You can see they only go up/down on start up, there is also an extra LED for bend lighting:

 

 

Just to add some more to this,

 

A 2014 Octavia manual has an 'Adaptive headlights (AFS)' section and states:

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The AHL system operates in the following modes.

 

Dynamic cornering lights
The cone of light in front of the vehicle is adjusted to the steering angle so that the road in the curve is illuminated. This function is active at speeds greater than 10 km.h and in all AFS modes.

 

Both a 2017 Octavia and Kodiaq manual do not have an AFS section nor mention dynamic cornering lights. Instead they have an 'LED headlights' section and state:

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The system operates automatically in the following modes: urban, extra-urban, motorway and fog.

 

The static corning light provides for the illumination of the road in the curve.

 

There is no dynamic cornering function on LED light systems, at least not for a MK3 FL Octavia or Kodiaq. I'm not aware of it existing on any current Skoda or VW model.

 

To put it plainly, the headlight doesn't swivel side to side because it physically can't

20 minutes ago, langers2k said:

Both a 2017 Octavia and Kodiaq manual do not have an AFS section nor mention dynamic cornering lights

 

Yet the configurator says:

 

Full led headlights with adaptive front light system and led daytime running lights, led front fogs with cornering function

 

If my Kodiaq doesn't have AFS, then I think I will be taking that up with the dealer / Skoda.

As I understand it, the foglights have a "cornering" function, but that doesn't involve any side-to-side movement of the beam - it just means that (for significant steering angles) the light on one side comes on.

According to that description from the configurator, the cornering function of the fog lights is something different to the adaptive front light system that is part of the full LED headlights.

 

Like I said, I'll be a bit ****ed if my new car doesn't have bendy lights.

 

(edit: of course, I'm making the assumption that AFS = bendy lights, which I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion isn't correct )

Edited 14 February, 20188 yr by WiggosSideburns

AFS isn't bending headlights, that's DLA - Dynamic Light Assist. When I had a Superb Sportline with the system it would bend. In Europe, Smart Light Assist adds the 'matrix' shutter system to not blind other cars while keeping high beams on.

8 hours ago, WiggosSideburns said:

(edit: of course, I'm making the assumption that AFS = bendy lights, which I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion isn't correct )

 

I'd agree with that, AFS is an umbrella term for a collection of technologies. It doesn't help as they change name between different VAG marques.

 

I believe these technologies include but aren't limited to:

- dynamic range adjustment: adjusts in the vertical for load and terrain

- dynamic bend lighting: adjusts in the horizontal whilst cornering (requires a second motor in the headlight)

- static bend lighting: additional light sources to illuminate more while cornering (aka cornering lights or cornering fog lights)

- AHL (adaptive headlights): moves the projectors or turns on extra lights to alter where the light cone is, common modes include city, motorway/highway, rain, fog and out of city (aka light cone modes)

- HBA (high beam assist): turns high beam on/off for oncoming traffic (Skoda intelligent light assistant?)

- VW DLA (dynamic light assist) or Skoda SLA (smart light assist): keeps high beams 'on' but adjusts the light cone to avoid glare, xenons use a roller shutter, LEDs turn individual lights on/off

 

I think those terms are all correct but feel free to add any corrections, ideally with a source.

 

9 hours ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

AFS isn't bending headlights, that's DLA - Dynamic Light Assist. When I had a Superb Sportline with the system it would bend. In Europe, Smart Light Assist adds the 'matrix' shutter system to not blind other cars while keeping high beams on.

 

The MK2 Octavia with xenons got 'AFS1' with dynamic bend lighting.

The MK2 Superb with bi-xenons got 'AFS2' with dynamic bend lighting and AHL.

 

Neither had DLA or SLA as they require a front facing camera which was never an option.

http://www.skoda-auto.co.in/models/kodiaq/kodiaq/kodiaq-adaptivelights

 

This was on my countrys official Škoda website and on the UK Škoda website until december 2017.

 

See the second to last slide where it says and shows cornering lights like dynamic ones. If this is not true than campaign like this is lying to the customers.

+ when selecting modes there is an option to change "bend light" from normal to sport and back

Just now, McGyles said:

+ when selecting modes there is an option to change "bend light" from normal to sport and back

Doesn't bend light. Only for cornering lamps

Just now, ZacDaMan72 said:

Doesn't bend light. Only for cornering lamps

 

Check the link.

 

Turn on your bear, select modes either "Normal", "Sport" or "Individual" and select properties -> there is "bend light" setting "off", "normal" and "sport".

 

Corner lights are mentioned as "corner lights" and you can turn them on and off in the "menu" under "lights".

Don't be lazy, if you comment check the posts that you are commenting with the link. Here is a cutaway from that link:

 

This was on the Škoda UK official website until november/december 2017, now it has been removed.

 

Says clearly ŠKODA KODIAQ  - ADAPTIVE LIGHTS with a picturing displaying the function clearly.

 

FOG LIGHTS included in the cornering are mentioned in the next slide of that link.

This is with fog lights:

 

 

Here the system is mentioned as "fog lights with Corner function", where the curve light is described as "cornering light"

 

Fog lights simply cannot function in the way pictured in the first picture because they are low-range.

 

I repeat again, this was on the Škoda UK (and in my country translated into slovene with same pictures) until november/december 2017 (last year), now it has been removed, wonder why??

16 minutes ago, McGyles said:

 

Check the link.

 

Turn on your bear, select modes either "Normal", "Sport" or "Individual" and select properties -> there is "bend light" setting "off", "normal" and "sport".

 

Corner lights are mentioned as "corner lights" and you can turn them on and off in the "menu" under "lights".

Read the manual, smartass. Plus you linked me the Indian site

 

Edited 15 February, 20188 yr by ZacDaMan72

15 minutes ago, McGyles said:

See the second to last slide where it says and shows cornering lights like dynamic ones. If this is not true than campaign like this is lying to the customers.

 

The image is normally for illustration only. That being said I certainly agree that it gives the impression of dynamic bend lighting.

 

It doesn't change the fact that the LED headlights can't physically move side to side making it impossible for dynamic bend lighting to function. I don't believe any Kodiaq LED headlight supports it so swapping headlights won't help either. The best they can do is static bend lighting.

 

I think your options are either accept it or have a chat with your dealer.

LOL dum dum READ THE POSTS YOU ARE COMMENTING!!!!!

 

I said "link availible on Škoda UK until november/december 2017"

Just now, langers2k said:

 

The image is normally for illustration only. That being said I certainly agree that it gives the impression of dynamic bend lighting.

 

It doesn't change the fact that the LED headlights can't physically move side to side making it impossible for dynamic bend lighting to function. I don't believe any Kodiaq LED headlight supports it so swapping headlights won't help either. The best they can do is static bend lighting.

 

I think your options are either accept it or have a chat with your dealer.

 

THIS^

 

Looks exactly like the same illustrations used for the Superb iirc.

Just now, ZacDaMan72 said:

 

THIS^

 

Looks exactly like the same illustrations used for the Superb iirc.

 EXACTLY MY POINT

Don't get me wrong the lights on Kodiaq are superb (especialy the auto low/high beam) but i do feel a bit cheated because i remember i was looking at these picturess, how AFS functions, on Škoda UK and my own countrys official Škoda website with the same slideshow/pictures with slovene translation and they were up last year until november/december and now they have been replaced (apart from the Škoda india website).

 

I wonder if they had complaints and decided to change them because they do look like xenon dynamic lights.

9 minutes ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

Read the manual, smartass. Plus you linked me the Indian site

 

 

Why does it say "static cornering lights" in the manual while in the infotainment you have "dynamic cornering light" or is that from a superb?