bought fab mk2 estate, now im worried.

[Ootohere]

& Furbytom, Silver CTHE Estate,  the vs GTR one.   lol.

Or just another CTHE vRS Estate.

 

Some of the first Mk2 vRS Registered in the UK Early Summer 2010 still have their original engines and are not Oil Users, 

no Breather or Software updates or Oil Spray jets.  

Brian69's and mine as an example. (or as of last year they were OK.) There are others.

 

 

Edited 13 April, 2018 by Offski

[Sittingbull]

I've made plenty of positive posts about our wee vRS, but reserve the right to fairly criticise what can reasonably referred to as the unexpectedly early failure of key components, in our case the engine being replaced and then MCU/ Clutches on the DSG. As Offski says, it's in folks interest to be forewarned.

 

Ours is back, freshly MOT'd (no thanks to Skoda dealer) and I've taken it on a lengthy drive, something like 150 mile round trip on a mixture of motorway, A and B roads encompassing relatively flat sections and some climbs through the Lowther Hills. The car behaved itself. It's funny how quickly you forget how quickly these wee cars can get along the road.

 

If looking to buy one, as ever do the homework. Try to get one with a first class service history from a reputable dealer, preferably standard as buying a modified one increases the risks somewhat, look for evidence of engine change but look on an engine change as a positive rather than negative ie the problem resolved, look for service action stickers on the walls of the tyre well and take a good warranty with it if available.

 

If you have a good one, these are fantastic wee cars.And there are more good ones than bad.

[jakecharnock]

4 hours ago, Sittingbull said:

I've made plenty of positive posts about our wee vRS, but reserve the right to fairly criticise what can reasonably referred to as the unexpectedly early failure of key components, in our case the engine being replaced and then MCU/ Clutches on the DSG. As Offski says, it's in folks interest to be forewarned.

 

Ours is back, freshly MOT'd (no thanks to Skoda dealer) and I've taken it on a lengthy drive, something like 150 mile round trip on a mixture of motorway, A and B roads encompassing relatively flat sections and some climbs through the Lowther Hills. The car behaved itself. It's funny how quickly you forget how quickly these wee cars can get along the road.

 

If looking to buy one, as ever do the homework. Try to get one with a first class service history from a reputable dealer, preferably standard as buying a modified one increases the risks somewhat, look for evidence of engine change but look on an engine change as a positive rather than negative ie the problem resolved, look for service action stickers on the walls of the tyre well and take a good warranty with it if available.

 

If you have a good one, these are fantastic wee cars.And there are more good ones than bad.

same can be said for most cars i suppose.    I've made my peace with running costs being higher than before as it's a performance model, just don't fancy any hefty bills haha.    it all seemed square,  interior condition seemed to match the mileage lol.   there were a few stickers in the boot if i remember correctly.   full skoda service history and comes with a warranty covering all parts.   fingers crossed i dont need it. 

[jakecharnock]

these are the stickers in the boot.  anyone shed any light on them? 

[Ootohere]

That is the DSG service campaign carried out, so it now has Synthetic Oil in the DSG and had a dsg software update.

There was a sticker that should have been used, but that is OK as shows done.

 

All fine with the car?

Have you set the tyre pressures and reset the TPMS?

Edited 14 April, 2018 by Offski

[jakecharnock]

erm nope and nope haha.   howd i do that lol.   also what pressures are needed? 

[jakecharnock]

also whats this lol? 

[Filipelol]

1 hour ago, jakecharnock said:

erm nope and nope haha.   howd i do that lol.   also what pressures are needed? 

The tyre pressures are on the inside of the fuel lid 
 

[Ootohere]

TPMS. 

After setting the tyre pressures, turn ignition on and the TPMS is beside the hand brake. 

Press for a few seconds and the symbol will show on the Dash and sound.  Set to what ever after the wheels turn, distance can vary.

Anyway any major change from a puncture will change the tyre size and give a warning, Nothing that h-tech it just knows the wheel is turning more.

Works though, but not always if all 4 tyre deflate a bit.   The testing of the system is the same pressing the button, but really that resets it, 

and if one tyre is low you rest that as being what you want...

 

Just so you know. 

Dip the oil when stone cold.

Do again after at least 5 miles, or when ever but with hot oil after 4 or 5 minutes, then you know where both Cold before starting, and after trips, 

just for your own knowledge.

[jakecharnock]

i checked the oil earlier about half hour after switching off.   i live on a hill ffs so cold checkings gonna be a pain haha.   ill check somewhere tomorrow. showed as bang on between the top and bottom mark on the dipstick. I'll keep a check on it.    ill set the TPMS tomorrow too.   

 

gonna get it in a VAG specialist next week at some point to give it a proper service with someone in the know.  

 

is there anywhere on here where someone could recommend a decent local specialist?   there's one near me, would just like to know if anyone else has used them?  

[Ootohere]

On the flat stone cold the oil should be at the top of the cross hatch or just above.

Before driving you can do a Jabozuma test.

Open the bonnet, dip the oil,  then start the engine and stop right away, dip the oil,  and the 0.5 litre or so will be in the oil filter and up at the head.

That reading you might find will be the same as you get doing an At Operating Temperature check.  

(at least worth trying to see.)

 

Half an hour after turning off gives a reading, better doing as the manual says, 'wait a few minutes',  that is like 4 or 5 not 30..

[jakecharnock]

1 hour ago, Offski said:

On the flat stone cold the oil should be at the top of the cross hatch or just above.

Before driving you can do a Jabozuma test.

Open the bonnet, dip the oil,  then start the engine and stop right away, dip the oil,  and the 0.5 litre or so will be in the oil filter and up at the head.

That reading you might find will be the same as you get doing an At Operating Temperature check.  

(at least worth trying to see.)

 

Half an hour after turning off gives a reading, better doing as the manual says, 'wait a few minutes',  that is like 4 or 5 not 30..

fair do's, I'll give it a try.     

 

I can't check the manual however as the previous owner lost it...

[Filipelol]

1 hour ago, jakecharnock said:

fair do's, I'll give it a try.     

 

I can't check the manual however as the previous owner lost it...

Here is the manual for your car.

https://ws.skoda-auto.com/OwnersManualService/Data/en/Fabia_54/11-2011/Manual/Fabia/A05_Fabia_OwnersManual.pdf

[jakecharnock]

14 hours ago, Filipelol said:

Here is the manual for your car.

https://ws.skoda-auto.com/OwnersManualService/Data/en/Fabia_54/11-2011/Manual/Fabia/A05_Fabia_OwnersManual.pdf

nice one

[Sittingbull]

On 14/04/2018 at 15:46, jakecharnock said:

these are the stickers in the boot.  anyone shed any light on them? 

 

As Offski has said the smaller sticker indicates that the DSG campaign has been carried out on your car,so that's one potential query resolved.

 

The larger sticker is present in all our cars and matches the sticker inside the service schedule booklet, it denotes the information relating to your specific vehicle eg yours is clearly a CAVE engine with the paint code(s) immediately below.

 

Offski has you covered with the advice on oil consumption and is the man to ask about servicing items including plugs and oil type. Hopefully you don't encounter any problems.

 

Good luck with the wee car, they are good fun and remarkably practical.

[jakecharnock]

it's booked into simpsons in Colne on Saturday for a service.  anything I should be asking before i take it?   

[Ootohere]

1.

Be sure to say, 'No FREE wash & vacuum thank you,

and have them write that down.

Leave a note in the car to that affect.

2.

Have the Service Desk person you hand the keys to come out and check the car all around to see no damage, 

bodywork or wheels before they take charge of the car.

3.

Check your cars mileage as it is handed over and written down.

*It should be going on a road test as part of the Servicing.*,    Be sure you get the report on that and the Health Check Items etc.

http://skoda.co.uk/finance-and-offers/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

 

4.

If you set your tyre pressures tell them, if you leave them to do that then check the tyre pressures after the service and reset and rest the TPMS.

 

5.

***I would opt for 5w 40 Full Synthetic oil VW502 00 as can be used for Fixed Servicing and be sure to tell them to leave or have the Service Indicator @ Fixed Servicing.***

(Nothing to do with cost, just because you do not want Long Life oil in a Twincharger.)

 

The Service Desk personnel might say, you must use Long Life Oil, VW504 00,  5w 30 and that is all they use, 

Ask them to go ask the Master Tech in the workshop. 

...............................

Q1,

?

Are you having them change the spark plugs or is there a record of them being changed, 

an invoice showing when done?   Or a service on the Skoda Computer System showing them as changed.

http://skoda.co.uk/finance-and-offers/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

Q2.

?

When was the brake fluid changed? Service schedule for your 2011 car would be at 2014, 2016 & 2018.

Cost an Extra £52 over and above the Service if being done.

Q.3

?

How much are you paying, 

this Major Service Price is OK if Spark Plugs and Air filter is being replaced,  if not then do not pay that much.  

.................................

 

Read Dealers Reviews on SIMPSONS SKODA and the Dealerships in the Dealers Section on this forum.

Forearmed is forewarned......

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/34777-simpsons-colne/?page=4 

http://briskoda.net/forums/forum/289-skoda-dealer-reviews 

 

IMPORTANT!

6.

*** When you collect the car, before starting  & if it sitting waiting in Customer Parking or whereever, pop the bonnet and check the oil level cold,.

then again when you get home.***

Errors have been known to happen, even the wrong quantity of oil put in.....   

Edited 16 April, 2018 by Offski

[Ootohere]

Evil Miyagi's Twincharger and their failure to put enough oil in was maybe a lesson learned.  If that was what happened, lets hope so.  All that Motorsport experience they have.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/325902-my-1st-service-which-dealer-northwest 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/34777-simpsons-colne/?page=2 

Edited 16 April, 2018 by Offski

[jakecharnock]

The oil was an issue I was wondering about.   if I was to arrange 5w 40 oil that might not be recommended by Skoda, regardless of if it's better for the engine or not,  would they not use it as ammo against you if the engine were to fail at a later date?   

 

the plugs I think were changed about 10k ago.  brake fluid is down for a change at extra cost obviously plus another few things i forgot,  ill have to ring back to see what they said haha, was busy when they rung. 

 

I think its £152 for the service and lass ont phone said its not down for a big service. (its about 3 months/ 7500k miles early lol)   wasn't aware the price was negotiable...? 

 

Im working away atm and left the service booklet at home ffs lol.  

 

btw, how much are people paying for skoda warranties?  I've got a third party one but theres no chance itll cover an engine change.  touch wood. 

 

love the car btw haha.   

[Ootohere]

The girl on the phone is looking at a computer and seeing Minor, Major service time about.

Why would they want £152 for a Minor Service?

What extra are they doing, or is this the new Minor Service Price, 'Simply Fixed'.

Servicing can be less than the @ participating dealerships stuff.

http://skoda.co.uk/finance-and-offers/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

EDIT.

MY BAD,  I SEE THE PRICE IS UP NOW TO £159.     Money for old rope...

 

*If a minor / fixed service at 9,400 miles / 372 days or less you can have 5w 40 FS to VW 502 00 used and not void any warranty.

You have a 2011 CAVE engine car, so if you check the Service Code you may see Fixed  QG2.

 

GQ2 and VW502 00 is the recommended oil for fixed.  5w 40 FS.       The Owners Manual was linked for you.

But that is up to you if you go with VW's other recommendation...

 

Thinking plugs as changed is the reason for so many CAVE & CTHE engine failures.

But that is up to you if you trust on just thinking.

 

Enjoy the car.  

Just be aware of things.  It is not Tripadviser stuff, just trying to help you.

& Just so you know,  from the Simpsons review.

TheGrinch also ended up with his car getting a new engine i believe. 

 

As to the Skoda Warranty you can buy.

Be aware of those that bought one then get knocked back as Skoda says 'known issue'.

So never mention Oil use at a Dealership unless you have high oil use and a valid warranty, then that way you never knew anything,

and yet Skoda sold a warranty and they knew...

(i can bump the thread if you ever need it.)

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/257110-correct-service-interval-and-oil-grade-for-fabia-ii-to-be-pinned 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/246296-vrs-oil-temperature 

The 'Jabozuma Oil check' so called by me, after Jabozuma who i miss greatly on this forum, he has so much technical knowledge and experience, and even had his Twincharger oil tested at a oil test facility, he had the contacts in motor sports, but sadly ended up owning an excessive Oil using CTHE i believe.

 

See, Bottom left of your Build Sticker in the boot.  

Is that QG2   

Possibly VW504 00 has been used for the past 7 years, but now VW502 00 might be worth using. Up to you.

Edited 16 April, 2018 by Offski

[jakecharnock]

i think i read the thread you're referring to.  chap ended up selling it as spares/repairs...?

 

im wondering wether or not its worth taking out a warranty prior to the service for chance they do pick up on oil burning or dsg troubles, anything like that.   

 

Christ, ive never fretted like this over a car haha.  

[jakecharnock]

its had services every uear even though it did 30k in the first three years then 18 in the next.   pretty sure it had an oil change at each one, now reading the threads you kindly linked has me thinking it was probably on a fixed schedule and so would not have been down for long life oil?   I'm not sure.   I'll ask for the 5W 40FS.   if it does have thicker oil in it i dont suppose I'd know if its an oil burner this early on.  

 

I'll know more by saturday.  hopefully all is well. 

[Ootohere]

Your car should be perfect.  

You have a Warranty and consumer rights.

If a Skoda Main Dealer technician finds a fault then back you go to where you bought it, return the car if anything major, or have them fix anything minor.

 

Once the Full Service History is again updated by Simpsons Skoda servicing your car then buy a Skoda Warranty safe in the knowledge there was No known issues.

'Simply Clever' really.

 

Have fun, and just enjoy your car.  You have done all you can possibly do to get a good one.

 

PS

Best advice i can give is use Tesco / Costco Super Unleaded 99 ron minimum, or Shell V-Power if you must, 

Sainsbury 97 ron or other Super Unleaded 97 if that is all you can get, but not 95 ron.

 

Once you know the spark plugs are good, correct gap, 

then try to always let the oil get above 50*oC indicated or nearer 80*oC before ever really booting it hard.

Blows that soot out the exhaust, and enjoy the car.

A roasting a day keeps the oil issues away.  Well before parking it up,   cleans the plugs up, Just IMO.

Edited 16 April, 2018 by Offski

[jakecharnock]

ah ok.  i stuck v power in the other day.  at least there's a tesco near me.  luckily

[Ootohere]

It is not about the £2.25 a tank fill less.

Royal Dutch Shell like to be secretive about the Detergent Packages, and really a Twincharger prone to 'Bore Wash' wants the octane not the detergent.

It might be the same detergent from Greenergy in the Momentum 99, as the base fuel comes into the UK from the same shared facilities that Greenegy & RDS own.

The thing is Momentum works well, as does COSTCO 99 Super Unleaded,   Shell -V-Power just a rip off price, and secret detergents. IMO.

(but then the detergents are much the same where ever they come from....

maybe the issue, Gasoline & Detergents,  Long Life Oil,  Bore Wash and also burnt out valves, poor OEM Spark Plugs and Software.)

Edited 16 April, 2018 by Offski