This probably is old news but I only just found it. https://www.whatcar.com/awards/best-family-car/2018-overall-winner/skoda-octavia

Pleasing to know that we have a well-regarded car!

Fabia and Superb in best estate also. 

3 hours ago, denno said:

This probably is old news but I only just found it. https://www.whatcar.com/awards/best-family-car/2018-overall-winner/skoda-octavia

Pleasing to know that we have a well-regarded car!

 

Indeed and not just a family car but a versatile, do almost anything, car.  Glad they highlighted the one I have (well I have the 150 hp 1.4 TSI actually) as pick of the range ie ......

 

"However, when you are travelling with the car loaded up the punchier 148bhp 1.5 TSI 150 petrol copes better. In normal use it’ll crack off the 0-62mph dash in as little as 8.2sec, which is pretty sprightly, and all-in-all we reckon it’s the pick of the range."

 

Getting 54 mpg indicated on the nice long runs I tend to do which I reckon is a bit optimistic and is more like 52 mpg really as I am getting over 550 miles out of a tankful.

 

Still trying to figure out what the 1.5 TSI "improved" over the 1.4 TSI - 150 hp ?

 

Also comment that the addition of the 7 speed DSG makes a very good car great both in terms of mpg and driving ease.    

2 hours ago, uchuff said:

Fabia and Superb in best estate also. 

 

The difference in the Octy hatch and estate is only 20 litres, unlike the Fabia which is about 150 litres I recall.  

 

Only reason have had an estate Octy before was that it was better for the Labrador !

 

Fabia estate more aero than the hatch, Octy not the case for acceleration anyways, odd that.  

 

Wish I had the Superb fuel tank size and the option of the 280 hp 4 wheel drive would be nice in the Octy otherwise very pleased to return to Octy land and numerous Mk 1 and Mk2 Octys, and the plethora of cheap Octys out there registered just before the crazy VED changes, half to two-thirds the price of a new one with low mileage make it good value again after a long period of being quite expensive ie since the Mk 3 was introduced.  

 

Will keep my for 4 years and probably be the last internal combustion engined car I have before going electric as it looks like will be compelled to do so pleased my last ICE car is such a culmination of the genre.  

 

Shame the Customer service is nowhere near as good  ( survey results for earlier on this month).......

 

Skoda now have a shockingly more dealer network from what was great 20,15,10 and even 5 years ago.   The move away from the family owned single outlet franchises to the multi-outlet and franchise dealerships saw a massive decline in the quality of customs serivice resulting in the feedback below from where Skoda was the best of the VW-Audi Group to the worst of the group.

 

Will not deal with those outlets anymore and therefore pick up the bargain nearly news and pay massively less servicing costs by using the garage that was a Skoda dealer a few years ago, trained etc, and do a great job with great service.  Sad it went this way ie great product, naff dealership network.   

 

 

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/jd-power-2018-uk-customer-service-index-csi-study

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 13 June, 20188 yr by lol-lol

Interesting that Kia are so high up.....

 

I’m tempted to head that way next!

Stinger GT S vs Superb 280 for the next car.

18-24 months’ time. Decisions! 

I'm still pleased with the service I get from my local dealer but probably because I know most people there having bought 9 cars from them and have 4 cars maintained there.

You can order an estate SE new for under 15k (call it 15k with choice of paint), but all year/18 mth cars on AutoTrader are around 14.5k, as most are SE spec. Appreciate that some of those may have extras, but even so, I was surprised with the little difference in price between need and used prices ( new deal prices, not rrp)

1 hour ago, AlexBlue said:

You can order an estate SE new for under 15k (call it 15k with choice of paint), but all year/18 mth cars on AutoTrader are around 14.5k, as most are SE spec. Appreciate that some of those may have extras, but even so, I was surprised with the little difference in price between need and used prices ( new deal prices, not rrp)

 

30% discount off new in several places and a bit more of the diesels they want to shift.

40% of similar SEATs, the market is that bad.

I was happy to get a Jan 17 car as road tax is only 30 quid a year saving a good few hundreds of pounds over next few years!

8 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Still trying to figure out what the 1.5 TSI "improved" over the 1.4 TSI - 150 hp ?

Lower official emissions figures due to the ACT cylinder disabling?

1 minute ago, SWBoy said:

Lower official emissions figures due to the ACT cylinder disabling?

Do all 1.5 ts i have act?  

Nox is 30 mgs/km i recall which is half allowed limit but will be interesting to see the real world figures!

Just now, lol-lol said:

Do all 1.5 ts i have act? 

On the O3 yes, not sure about other VAG models.

19 minutes ago, SWBoy said:

On the O3 yes, not sure about other VAG models.

 

The Leon 1.4 150 is ACT, not sure why it never made it to the Octy.

5 hours ago, ItalianJob said:

The Leon 1.4 150 is ACT, not sure why it never made it to the Octy.

Limited supply of ACT parts?

Skoda getting everything last in the VAG hierarchy?

Skoda was never involved in the 'Implausible / Irregular'  Co2 g/km that began later 2015 after Dieselgate and involved Petrols and diesels.

Just VW, Audi & SEAT that had made 'errors' when their models were undergoing testing 'seemingly', fuddle not fiddling. only some cars discontinued, withdrawn from sale, bought back.

So anyway the 1.4 TSI /TFSI ACT / COD was to be no more, and the new one is a 1.5 TSI EVO.  Time to forget anything that went before, 

no need for them to be compared or undergo WLTP testing.   

Maybe some Magazines might though, see just how the 1.4TSI ACT really is 'Real World' on emissions.

6 hours ago, SWBoy said:

Lower official emissions figures due to the ACT cylinder disabling?

 

Just checked the brochure and the 1.5 TSI DSG is not more economical than the 1.4 TSI DSG and does not have a flatter power map.  Engine has same bore but longer stroke and therefore more cubic capacity, maybe it produces a bit less NOX but it is not better at CO2 than the 1.4TSI, DSG versions anyways. 

 

1.5 TSI car is heavier by some 15 kgs and slower accelerating, hmmm.   Might be the NOX, what else could it be.   

 

  

 

I read something a while back where VAG were saying ACT helps more in real world situations so maybe they are hoping for better results on the WLTP tests.

On 13/06/2018 at 06:49, dunc69 said:

Interesting that Kia are so high up.....

 

I’m tempted to head that way next!

Stinger GT S vs Superb 280 for the next car.

18-24 months’ time. Decisions! 

 

I had a sit in the stinger in the show room, 3.2 (380bhp i think?) which is a bit bonkers when you think its a Kia, big step up for them. hard to beat a 7 year warranty though

 

ive got a kia, and the service levels between dealers is huge, i was quoted prices twice as high for the same service work between dealers and attitudes were poor with one dealer. I go to Roadside in Coleraine for my Kia and they have been excellent. I took it in for a service and MOT check and they did £800 of other work they found when they were running checks, all paid under warranty. They even over ran due to not getting the parts in time and Kia paid for the courtesy car insurance themselves as well, they didnt have to do this. So it can really depend which dealer you go to.

Edited 15 June, 20188 yr by JohnnyType2

On 15/06/2018 at 09:55, JohnnyType2 said:

 

I had a sit in the stinger in the show room, 3.2 (380bhp i think?) which is a bit bonkers when you think its a Kia, big step up for them. hard to beat a 7 year warranty though

 

ive got a kia, and the service levels between dealers is huge, i was quoted prices twice as high for the same service work between dealers and attitudes were poor with one dealer. I go to Roadside in Coleraine for my Kia and they have been excellent. I took it in for a service and MOT check and they did £800 of other work they found when they were running checks, all paid under warranty. They even over ran due to not getting the parts in time and Kia paid for the courtesy car insurance themselves as well, they didnt have to do this. So it can really depend which dealer you go to.

Test drove the Stinger V6 3.3TT a couple of weeks back, awesome car! A bit more expensive than a Skoda though

On ‎13‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 01:34, lol-lol said:

 

Indeed and not just a family car but a versatile, do almost anything, car.  Glad they highlighted the one I have (well I have the 150 hp 1.4 TSI actually) as pick of the range ie ......

 

"However, when you are travelling with the car loaded up the punchier 148bhp 1.5 TSI 150 petrol copes better. In normal use it’ll crack off the 0-62mph dash in as little as 8.2sec, which is pretty sprightly, and all-in-all we reckon it’s the pick of the range."

 

Getting 54 mpg indicated on the nice long runs I tend to do which I reckon is a bit optimistic and is more like 52 mpg really as I am getting over 550 miles out of a tankful.

 

Still trying to figure out what the 1.5 TSI "improved" over the 1.4 TSI - 150 hp ?

 

Also comment that the addition of the 7 speed DSG makes a very good car great both in terms of mpg and driving ease.    

Managed 62.1mpg in wife's Karoq fitted with the 1.5Tsi petrol engine with six speed manual gearbox.Had the 1.4tsi in 2016 Superb and would say it's even quieter in the Karoq and economy similar despite the Superb having much better aerodynamics.