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Do you carry your wallet in your back right pocket?

 

I've found that on long journeys its good practice for me to remove my wallet and place it in the door pocket, just a thought.

When i moved from a 5 seriers to the superb, i had rear thigh pains after an hours drive due to lack of support, however after a week of ownership getting the miles in my body got used to the new position and fine... last week did 500 miles in one go only stopping for the Le Shuttle at Calais and was fresh and pain free once i completed the drive.

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7 hours ago, Prykey said:

Do you carry your wallet in your back right pocket?

 

I've found that on long journeys its good practice for me to remove my wallet and place it in the door pocket, just a thought.

 

Unfortunately not, nothing that simple as I always drive pockets empty.

 

2 hours ago, RickTT said:

When i moved from a 5 seriers to the superb, i had rear thigh pains after an hours drive due to lack of support, however after a week of ownership getting the miles in my body got used to the new position and fine... last week did 500 miles in one go only stopping for the Le Shuttle at Calais and was fresh and pain free once i completed the drive.

 

It is possible I guess. Worst case a Recaro Ergomed es is less than the upgrade to an Audi of lower spec and would keep north of 5k in my bank.

 

however the question is, would it be worth it and where do you keep the original without a garage...

Driving since 1974 and the only car I have had issues with in that time was a Ford Puma. No adjustable lumbar and anything over 30 miles and I was in agony.

 

Since then I have only bought cars with adjustable lumbar but in truth only ever needed to adjust one and that was a Ford C-Max, must be something about Fords and my back.

 

Wife had 2 Micras, no adjustable lumbar and I could drive/ride serious miles in those with no issues at all.

 

When we bought the wifes new Fabia lumbar was only an option with sports seats and we did not want those for a couple of reasons. We had a a Fabia on loan for a day and found the standard seats fine with no lumbar so risked it. So far its proven fine, did 250 miles in the day 2 weeks ago in total comfort.

 

As for the Superb in SE trim, most we have done in the day has been 430 miles, no issues at all and I have yet to touch the lumbar.

I takes time to get used to a new car. I frequently travel to the UK for work purposes and have variious rental cars. The last few times I´ve had new 5-series and E-classes, and they have all given me the exact same pain as you describe. It´s a relief to get back home in the Superb.

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So tried the dealers cars again.

 

Sportline, pretty much the same, but a bit more noticeable. Used L&K fine.

 

So I went and had a sit and a fiddles with the one I had driven and it was painful. Feeling around the seam, it appears the seam where the Alcantara and leather join is pretty stiff.

 

the sport seat has a flat not piped seam and the leather on leather in the L&k seemed fine.

 

so potentially the material or a bad seam.

 

As an aside it’s  a shame that even though the dealer was super helpful, the price they offered is nearly £1000 worse than the 3 best prices from elsewhere.

 

while I might pay a little bit more, for the local dealer, they’re saying their price is their best price, so unfortunately it’s unlikely to happen.

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On 20/06/2018 at 07:55, cheezemonkhai said:

When you're sat there, the right leg goes over the bolster to sit on the accelerator.

 

cheesemonkhai.... I know this is an old thread but did you ever get anywhere with this... I've had seat comfort issues and have worked my way to the same conclusion as you that the right seat bolster is causing me some discomfort. 

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5 hours ago, DB72 said:

 

cheesemonkhai.... I know this is an old thread but did you ever get anywhere with this... I've had seat comfort issues and have worked my way to the same conclusion as you that the right seat bolster is causing me some discomfort. 


No it wasn’t something fixable, so along with kessy and WLTP was one of the reasons I walked away from a superb.

 

Annoyingly a European colleague had one with the ergo seats as a factory option. Just a shame they’re not an option here.

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20 hours ago, cheezemonkhai said:


No it wasn’t something fixable, so along with kessy and WLTP was one of the reasons I walked away from a superb.

 

Annoyingly a European colleague had one with the ergo seats as a factory option. Just a shame they’re not an option here.

I have the exact same issue, had the car for a year and tried moving the seat to every imaginable position but no real improvement. 

Recently, I put a very thin cushion on the seat that makes the front of bolster under my legs a bit softer.

I have the SE trim with fabric seats. 

 

What car did you end up with in the end? Unfortunately, much as I like everything else about the Superb, I think I'll end up replacing fairly quickly once we're through lock down. 

I used to drive an Audi A7. Truly terrible seats in RHD format due to poor design in the conversion from LHD. Transmission tunnel almost at 45 degrees on the drivers side whilst the passenger side was practically vertical. Clearly they didn't bother adapting properly for RHD markets.

 

I used to suffer back ache after long drives due to twisting for the offset pedals, but nothing similar in the Superb. 

 

In fact, after sitting in the Sportline, the seats just felt "right." Not massively plush, but not firm either.

 

Clearly I'd got to that point in my life where comfort was most important... It comes to us all.

 

Other cars I considered, just on the quality of their seats, were used Merc S Class and various Volvos. XC60 and XC90 were also very comfortable.

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2 hours ago, budster said:

I have the exact same issue, had the car for a year and tried moving the seat to every imaginable position but no real improvement. 

Recently, I put a very thin cushion on the seat that makes the front of bolster under my legs a bit softer.

I have the SE trim with fabric seats. 

 

What car did you end up with in the end? Unfortunately, much as I like everything else about the Superb, I think I'll end up replacing fairly quickly once we're through lock down. 


Tried the Audi, but the better seats were ruined by the transmission tunnel intrusion on RHD versions.

 

A jag xf / f pace were top candidates as you could get stunning seats in them and they are not massively more than a Superb.

 

Volvo were interesting, but the prices eye-wateringly expensive.

 

I decided to buy out the PCP for  the Octavia, as I had excess miles to deal with.

 

I’m going to run it to five years and see where the world is on emissions and electric cars at that point.
 

That uncertainty plus the current situation means it was the right decision for me.

 

A seat trimmer did say they could probably change the foam to memory foam, adjust its shape a bit and that they had had success in other cars with similar problems.

 

In your situation worth a go, but as I was buying new, it made me avoid.

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2 hours ago, budster said:

I have the exact same issue, had the car for a year and tried moving the seat to every imaginable position but no real improvement. 

Recently, I put a very thin cushion on the seat that makes the front of bolster under my legs a bit softer.

I have the SE trim with fabric seats. 

 

After coming to the conclusion that it was the side bolster causing me issues, I did something similar.  I have made a test cushion using several sheets of laminate flooring underlay cut to shape to fit roughly between the bolsters up to about 15mm thick when compressed which raises the horizontal surface part of the seat base up enough to effectively make the side bolsters shorter and further apart (due to the sloping nature of the sides) and this also extends to the very front edge of the seat.

When I use this poor attempt at a cushion the seat becomes very comfortable so I plan to make a more permanent solution using foam and then I'm going to try get it trimmed in leather to match the seats.

 

The strange thing is that I can't figure out exactly which part of the side bolster is either pressing or lifting my leg or buttock because when stationary I can position myself between the bolsters while hardly touching either side, but when driving I am somehow moving myself into the bolster, either due to the position of the accelerator/offset driving position or sliding on the leather.

Another thing is that the seat seems to be offset inwards to accommodate the seat controls giving clearance to the inside of the door and the plastic housing containing the controls which also seem to push the right side bolster up and in slightly compared to the left side bolster.

If I can't get this resolved I think I may have to get rid of the car, which is a shame because I like everything else about the car.

18 hours ago, cheezemonkhai said:


Tried the Audi, but the better seats were ruined by the transmission tunnel intrusion on RHD versions.

 

A jag xf / f pace were top candidates as you could get stunning seats in them and they are not massively more than a Superb.

 

Volvo were interesting, but the prices eye-wateringly expensive.

 

I decided to buy out the PCP for  the Octavia, as I had excess miles to deal with.

 

I’m going to run it to five years and see where the world is on emissions and electric cars at that point.
 

That uncertainty plus the current situation means it was the right decision for me.

 

A seat trimmer did say they could probably change the foam to memory foam, adjust its shape a bit and that they had had success in other cars with similar problems.

 

In your situation worth a go, but as I was buying new, it made me avoid.

 

OK, a car seat trimmer, I have learned something new! I confess I had to Google that as I had no idea that was a "thing", I suppose I've always just thought the car seats you get in a car are the seats, and that's it but I've just had a glimpse into a whole new world. Might be something to consider in due course and would probably be cheaper than changing the car, although I bought used rather than new, so a smaller loss.

 

Pretty much every review I have seen of a Volvo, there is a comment of how comfy the seats are and I must say, I do like the look of the V60 or V90. I normally buy used for cash but I am thinking there might be some good discounts available on new cars once this madness passes.

18 hours ago, DB72 said:

 

After coming to the conclusion that it was the side bolster causing me issues, I did something similar.  I have made a test cushion using several sheets of laminate flooring underlay cut to shape to fit roughly between the bolsters up to about 15mm thick when compressed which raises the horizontal surface part of the seat base up enough to effectively make the side bolsters shorter and further apart (due to the sloping nature of the sides) and this also extends to the very front edge of the seat.

When I use this poor attempt at a cushion the seat becomes very comfortable so I plan to make a more permanent solution using foam and then I'm going to try get it trimmed in leather to match the seats.

 

The strange thing is that I can't figure out exactly which part of the side bolster is either pressing or lifting my leg or buttock because when stationary I can position myself between the bolsters while hardly touching either side, but when driving I am somehow moving myself into the bolster, either due to the position of the accelerator/offset driving position or sliding on the leather.

Another thing is that the seat seems to be offset inwards to accommodate the seat controls giving clearance to the inside of the door and the plastic housing containing the controls which also seem to push the right side bolster up and in slightly compared to the left side bolster.

If I can't get this resolved I think I may have to get rid of the car, which is a shame because I like everything else about the car.

 

Hmm, interesting. I'm sure we've got a leftover roll of that in the loft somewhere, that is a good material for this purpose - thin but spongy and can be built up in layers.

 

I also can't quite work out what is causing it. My wife has a 2015 Golf and I don't seem to have the same issue there. The pedals appear to be roughly in the same positions, so I don't think it's a pedal offset problem.

The difference that I can see is that the Golf seats appear to be flatter front to back, IYCWIM. The Skoda seat has a noticable upward incline, particularly as it gets to the front of the seat whereas the Golf seat is more horizontal (my seats are manual adjust only so I can't make the seat base flatter, only adjust the angle of the whole seat). The Golf also seems to have smaller side bolsters, so that ties in with your theory about lifting yourself up to effectively make the bolsters smaller.

Not much call for driving at the moment of course, so I can't really test anything out properly.

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The electric  seat base made no difference, so don’t waste your money trying to add those to fix this issue.

On 19/06/2018 at 11:25, xman said:

Both me and my petite wife bang our heads getting into the car...:doh:

 

And my trouser back pocket buttons scrape along the side bolster because the entry is tight.

 

I am not particularly tall or overweight....

 

An old thread but I do have the answer to the above which may interest you, the question was raised by me but the wise people on this forum gave me the answer.

 

My UK neighbour has an identical Octavia to mine but a facelift model, when I got in his car I would brain myself on the screen pillar and it finally caused a detached retina. It happened on both the drivers and passengers seats.

 

He is the same height & build as me but his wife is petite & vertically challenged, she rarely drives his car but bends his ear so much about the seat height that for a quiet life he leaves his in the fully raised position like her passenger seat.

 

With it at a normal height for me to drive I would never bang my head. Its worse on the MK2 than the MK1 because of the much thicker and intrusive pillars. The new Mondeo is a nightmare, head bashing everytime, have to release the seatbelts & lean right forward just to look up at the sky.

  • 2 weeks later...

probably off topic but im sure someone on here will know, ive got a mk2 fabia and ive swapped out the interior for white vrs seats, but the drivers side has a ****ing awful rock when you press the break.

ive changed the runners but still its rocking like a old womans chair any idea what it may be? do they have bushes in that could be worn

 

cheers

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