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1 hour ago, wyx087 said:

And you don't plan your route when driving long distance because?

"...where you would like to go."

 

Which implies that yes I do plan my route, but, for example, I decide to go from Oban to Dumbarton via Inveraray and stop for coffee at the Loch Fyne Oyster Bar because I want to, rather than having to go via Tyndrum and stop at the Clifton Coffee House because that's the only place between my target points with public chargers.

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    EV's not for you then. 

    Just imagine if the Rest and Be Thankful is closed and diversion in place, or snow gates closed on alternative routes.

     

    I get peed off at how many EV's there are with just DRL's on in the worst of weather.

    I assume they have no heating on either.

     

    What a shame really when there is so much renewables generated so close.

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    Ha!

     

    Fuel stations have 8-16 pumps at each location.

    Charging stations have on average 1.6 chargers at each location.

    As of 22 May 2019, there were 8,471 public EV charging stations across the UK with a total of 13,613 chargers

     

     

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    Tesla have already equipped a couple of sites with battery. I know South Mimms services has battery banks.

     

    The article suggests it's a new thing "feasibility study". The lead battery may be, but the idea to use battery to store off-peak energy is certainly no where near new. There probably won't be a cost saving because the cost to install the battery is huge.

     

    To be honest, I would happily pay 10 times more than overnight destination charging, on reliable 100+ kW en-route charging, If I know there is a space for me when I turn up, and I can recharge to the speed limit of my car, I'd happily pay £1 per kWh if needed. These quick chargers only gets used very rarely (unlike petrol stations) so high cost should be expected to pay for the infrastructure cost.

     

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    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/ionity-expand-ev-fast-charger-network-extra-services

     

    Ionity chargers

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    Typical politician's fluff LOL. We're going to do XYZ but no actual real plan. No list of charge points, no time scale. Still, fingers crossed they come through on this.

     

    Per the comments on YouTube, I think these will be easily damaged and unreliable. I think that upgrading lamp posts with charge points is the way forward for many urban streets.

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    Trials will show if easily damaged or unreliable.   

    If they are we will hear soon enough in the Dundee Courier.

    Dundee might have a bit more snow and ice than Plymouth, but still not that bad usually.

     

    Tax payers will be Peed Off if some residential street pavements are cleared so that EV chargers can pop up while town centre pavements are death traps with snow built up at the kerbs and kerb side. Even at bus stops making getting on and off difficult sometimes.

    If it was in the Scott Street area where the pavements were heated from below by a boiler that was for the Steamie / baths & to heat houses / flats that would have worked.

    No idea if the pavements there are still keep clear that way anymore.

     

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    3 hours ago, Luckypants said:

    Per the comments on YouTube, I think these will be easily damaged and unreliable. I think that upgrading lamp posts with charge points is the way forward for many urban streets.

    On the streets where I live the lamp posts are not on the road side of the pavement but the house side, so this would leave cables trailing across the pavement - which could be a great money earner for "ambulance chasers" claiming trip hazard injuries.

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    It will be interesting to know how much these will be costing as an average and then how much profit to the installers.

    There will be lots of surveying, humming and heying, site visits, objections, delays, site visits, pavement and road works, blocking pavements, issues, objections, site visits, 

    and lots of meetings.

    It is a lengthy gravy train when Councillors are involved and a few million never goes that far.  Not in Scotland and especially not in Dundee.

    Known for the greed of elected members....

    Ubitricity do this, all single phase lowish charge rates as far as I can see.

     

    https://www.ubitricity.co.uk/

     

    On our chargers often tap in to the 3 phase power line to give the higher rapid charge rates.  

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    You either have your own teams, own equipment / plant and they travel and stay locally in hotel accommodation and get on with the job.

    Or have a team that travel and work with local contractors and they have their plant / equipment and local supplies for the sand, gravel, cement, asphalt, slabs etc etc.

     

    It is as with everything is scaled up, money gets wasted all along the line, people get employed, the organisation expends and if lucky it all goes well, 

    if not then we know who gets involved.  PwC, EY, KPMG, Deloitte.  It is the UK after all, organising pith ups in a brewery is even a simple idea turned into 'fill your boots'.

     

    Government Job Creation should require local Colleges to train Young and Unemployed individuals to be doing the Nationalised Installation of the EV Infrastructure.  Profits yes for investors, but not creating millionaire CEO's unless they start out as Billionaires.

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