I've had the Citigo for 12 months now & I'm extremely happy with it.

But, I've already decided that when I'm due for a change, in 2/3 years time, my next car will definitely be a Hybrid.

Along with most other manufacturers, VW/Skoda don't offer a small Hybrid car in their range.

VW offer a Up electric car but with a piddling 100 mile range.

Absolutely useless to most drivers unless you only want a car to take your kids to school or go shopping.

Only Toyota offer a Hybrid in a small car package, the Yaris.

So, unless VW/Skoda 'pull their finger out' very smartish, they will be losing a previously very satisfied customer to Toyota.

Suzuki offer a small hybrid as well (although only a mild hybrid) in their Swift (I have one), Baleno and Ignis...   and the Swift is a miles better package than the Yaris

Edited 24 July, 20187 yr by skomaz

Yarid hybrid was terrible. Engine is so loud as it runs high rpm almost all the time.

^^^ What year of car was this one you were driving.

I actually like a Yaris Hybrid and drove one for a week.  A 2015 model that had done 5,000 miles and was a Demonstrator that was for sale.

Skoda are looking into releasing an electric Citigo next year (2019) and then some E-VRS models later on, most likely use the Fabia chassis...

But not the current Fabia chassis / platform though, that was just an update of the Mk2 Fabia Platform.

 

So the new Fabia / Rapid Platform that might be the one that is out suitable for Hybrid & EV before used in Polo, Ibiza, A1 or whatever gets an update after things are tried and tested on the low volume producers production lines.

 

19 new models by the end 2020 was what the CEO said, so that is maybe a few versions of 5 or 6 Skoda models.

 

They just need to get the range of a e-Citigo better than the pathetic range of an e-Up!.

 

The kidology of Hybrids with no actual decent range on electricity probably will not get cheap VED from the UK Government as they have already hinted.

Edited 24 July, 20187 yr by Offski

Offski,

It will be a new car I'll buy in 2/3 years time.

Yaris is the obvious choice at the moment, I'll see what if any improvements they make to it in the meantime.

 

Jonny118118,

VW already have an Electric version of the Up so, it's no surprise that they are 'giving their permission' to Skoda to produce a Citigo Electric Version.

Problem with nearly ALL Electric Cars is - Shockingly Poor Range.

Resulting in 'Range Anxiety'.

Only any good for Shopping & School Run.

And, I can't see that changing in the next 10/15 years.

 

Emil,

Yes noisy. Because the Yaris is a Automatic, so it hangs on to its gears longer before changing up much longer than you would do driving a Manual change car.

But, that higher reving in each gear is not reflected in higher petrol construction.

Yaris is very Ecconomic to run.

The higher revs is just something you'd get used to.

I thought it's not automatic, but hybrid. It makes electricity on high rpm as it is economical. And very annoying. 

 

Not my cup of tea. 

What is not automatic about not needing to change gear and having no clutch pedal?

2 pedals and can be driven by those with an Automatic only licence, just like Automated / Robotised Manuals.

 

 

Edited 24 July, 20187 yr by Offski

Emile,

You're way off beam with this one.

Emile, the Yaris Hybrid does not make Electricity to run its Electric Motor directly by engine 'High Revs' as you put it, any Electricity generated by the Petrol Engine goes to Recharge the Nickel Metal Hydride Battery.

Emile, maybe your getting confused with the Suzuki 'Mild Hybrid System' which operates entirely differently.

Now, the Suzuki Swift Turbo with 'Mild Hybrid System' is a MANUAL Gearbox.

But, the Yaris Hybrid is definately an Automatic Gearbox.!

You only have to read The Toyota 'Spec' & also all the Motoring Press reviews.

There is absolutely no doubt about it - it is an Automatic.

You cannot buy a Yaris Hybrid Manual version, it does not exist.

Even the Toyota Yaris Hybrid is by no means ideal.

It will only travel 1.2 miles on battery only using its Electric Motor, before the Petrol Engine kicks in to offer help to its inadequate Electric friend.

And that's Toyota's own figures.

BLOODY PATHETIC!!!

But, at least its a start to a relatively new technology.

Look how long it's taken to get the Petrol Engine up to present sophisticated level compared to the Gas Guzzlers we were all driving a few years ago.

Sort of automatic yes if you like. But it keeps high rpm to produce electricity efficient way, not because it is "automatic". Automatic gearbox doesn't run engine on high rpm all the time like Yaris do.

 

I made some searching and find out they have new 1.5 l engine in Yaris:

 

https://newsroom.toyota.eu/new-15-l-petrol-engine-for-the-yaris/

 

Maybe it's better or at least quieter. Very expensive car it is anyway. 

Edited 24 July, 20187 yr by Emil

"The engine is also connected to Toyota’s first water-cooled exhaust manifold system, which is said to boost efficiency when cruising at motorway speeds. The technology reduces exhaust gas temperature, enabling the engine to run with a reduced fuel mixture, reducing combustion temperature and improving both fuel consumption and exhaust emissions."

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-toyota-yaris-15-litre-features-advanced-exhaust-cooling-system

 

Citigo have had water-cooled exhaust manifold from day one. 

Best electric cars on range are the Tesla’s or the new Leaf isn’t too bad.

You can get a new Toyota Yaris Hybrid for just under £13,000, you do not need to pay the £16,500 RRP.

 

Some people will complain about CVT boxes or will just not be prepared to drive them.

I had a Volvo 340 CVT, a Fiat Punto Speedgear CVT and a Toyota iQ CVT, all of which i liked and did lots of miles with.

It is just a pity that Toyota never did an EV iQ, it was a perfect car for it, but then as a 1.0 petrol it was good for over 60 mpg anyway.

Edited 24 July, 20187 yr by Offski

14 hours ago, Ronn said:

Even the Toyota Yaris Hybrid is by no means ideal.

It will only travel 1.2 miles on battery only using its Electric Motor, before the Petrol Engine kicks in to offer help to its inadequate Electric friend.

And that's Toyota's own figures.

BLOODY PATHETIC!!!

But, at least its a start to a relatively new technology.

Look how long it's taken to get the Petrol Engine up to present sophisticated level compared to the Gas Guzzlers we were all driving a few years ago.

 

 

More like hybrid than pathetic. When driveline is heavy batteries needs to be lighter. That's why I like the idea of electric car more.

'They' have not got light batteries yet that can have a decent range and fast charging and not overheating issues, which is the latest Nissan Leaf problem really 

and why there are no budget Tesla available and issues with delivery of the cheapest one they are offering.

 

The answer is the likes of the new London EV Taxi (Volvo / Geely) with a 'Petrol Generator' to charge the power pack, as with the BMW i3 (range extender) or the i8.

 

 

In Aberdeen there are Hydrogen Filling Stations and there is a Toyota Service Station with Qualified Techs, and  plenty of available renewable electricity generation for producing hydrogen.

That really needs to be part of the solution to reducing pollution and not just EV's or ICE engine Hybrids.

 

Getting to be a good few of these around now. Maybe as good as it gets for affordable to lease and efficient if a Leaf / Joe is not your thing.

 

Edited 25 July, 20187 yr by Offski

Looks like Citigo E is coming in 2019. Range of 300km.

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/citigo/99236/all-electric-skoda-citigo-e-due-in-2019

It all is dependent then on VW having. Improved batteries in 18 months or less since spinning this news,  because they already have the e-Up! In production yet can not improve the range now using what batteries are available mid 2018.   Lots of if and maybes. 

On 24/07/2018 at 19:23, Jonny118118 said:

Best electric cars on range are the Tesla’s or the new Leaf isn’t too bad.

 

the Hyundai Kona electric is able to do around 300 miles, just about to be opened up for orders. After 31 years of driving Skodas I'm seriously considering a Kona

292 mile range according to what the WLTP shows with the 64kWh version which starts at £29,495 in the UK with the Government Plug in Grant.

 

194 miles with the 39kWH version starts at £24,995 with Government Grant.

 

In Scotland the Government gives a 6 year Interest Free Loan to buy an EV for private use and if you are not already the Registered Keeper of a EV.

http://greenerscotland.org/greener-travel/greener-driving/grants-and-funding 

 

Edited 26 July, 20187 yr by Offski

22 hours ago, Offski said:

292 mile range according to what the WLTP shows with the 64kWh version which starts at £29,495 in the UK with the Government Plug in Grant.

 

194 miles with the 39kWH version starts at £24,995 with Government Grant.

 

In Scotland the Government gives a 6 year Interest Free Loan to buy an EV for private use and if you are not already the Registered Keeper of a EV.

http://greenerscotland.org/greener-travel/greener-driving/grants-and-funding 

 

 

300 easily do-able if you look at the test Bjorn Nyland did on youtube 

Fantastic then if a 5 seater can do the 300 miles with 5 adults and luggage in any weather & charge quickly and get going again for another 300 miles.

 

A 50kg sandbag strapped in each seat and 2 in the boot might give a better realistic idea of range, handling, ride etc.

Then a set of winter tyres fitted as many may need on their vehicles some of the year.

 

 

Edited 27 July, 20187 yr by Offski

Glad I found this. We were seriously tempted by a Renault Zoe before buying the Citigo. The killer for the Zoe was the £70 a month battery rental, we put about £25 of petrol in Citigo each month, so the costs were well in the Citgo's favour. We have found the Citigo to be an ideal second car, so when the electric one was announced (albeit more of an aspiration than a reality) we resolved to look into getting one as soon as available. As long as it will do 150 miles in one go, we will be happy as that is a return trip to an elderly relative one of us may need to make if the big car is not available.

well I took a nissan Leaf for a test drive all day today. Very impressive. It accelerates like a rocket, The Octavia feels so sluggish afterwards. I didn't need to recharge it but I did try anyway. I was at 52% charge. I stopped for a coffee for 20 minutes and it went up to 92% and cost me not a penny. I'm very impressed. It was only a mid range model but it had pretty much all the kit my Octavia SEL has. The only thing missing was LED headlights