Dear All

 

I have owned a Skoda Superb Elegance 2005 1.9 TDI (sold 4 years ago and I did 100k miles on it before I sold it and it was the best car I have ever had - been driving for over 20 years). Company car came along and had to move to a Nissan leaf for two years and Mercedes Plug in Hybrid (had for the last 2  years). No boot space and I am missing the Skoda Superb. 

 

I am a bit out of touch on the Skoda now after 4 years. My budget is between £8 - £10k. Shall I buy the automatic DSG or the manual (would like the automatic and are they reliable). Is it worth buying the 4x4 option and I would like the 170 BHP options. Also, I am going to buy the elegance model.

 

Let me know which is the best engine in this range and what to avoid. 

 

I know these cars have the DPF filters on them now (has anyone had any problems with their diesel).

 

Would like to hear from the estate owners to let me know what they like and not like about their car. Are they still reliable? Are these cars good for mileage between 150K - 200k if regularly serviced. I do high motorway mileage and would buy a car at about 80K miles and it won't be long before it is approaching over 150K. 

 

Sorry, lots of questions but I am so excited at the moment. Really looking forward to start shopping!

 

Looking forward to your replies.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

 

Never had such an old / high mileage car so can't say about reliability but if you'll find fully serviced one - go for 2.0 tdi 170 + DSG + 4x4  or even 3.6 and then beef it up

 

REMEMBER to check if fixed !! and when - if there is still some extra warranty left. You can unfix it for £120 or something like that. 

 

There is a very good app - VAG DPF (free) - to monitor its condition - I have 28.6k on the clock and regen starts around 25g and ends at 5.60ish. 

 

Avoid 1.8 petrol. 

Edited 15 August, 20187 yr by jafo

What is this fix?

 

how do I know if it has been done?

 

Does it relate to manual or automatic cars?

 

many thanks

13 hours ago, chipmonster said:

Dear All

 

I have owned a Skoda Superb Elegance 2005 1.9 TDI (sold 4 years ago and I did 100k miles on it before I sold it and it was the best car I have ever had - been driving for over 20 years). Company car came along and had to move to a Nissan leaf for two years and Mercedes Plug in Hybrid (had for the last 2  years). No boot space and I am missing the Skoda Superb. 

 

I am a bit out of touch on the Skoda now after 4 years. My budget is between £8 - £10k. Shall I buy the automatic DSG or the manual (would like the automatic and are they reliable). Is it worth buying the 4x4 option and I would like the 170 BHP options. Also, I am going to buy the elegance model.

 

Let me know which is the best engine in this range and what to avoid. 

 

I know these cars have the DPF filters on them now (has anyone had any problems with their diesel).

 

Would like to hear from the estate owners to let me know what they like and not like about their car. Are they still reliable? Are these cars good for mileage between 150K - 200k if regularly serviced. I do high motorway mileage and would buy a car at about 80K miles and it won't be long before it is approaching over 150K. 

 

Sorry, lots of questions but I am so excited at the moment. Really looking forward to start shopping!

 

Looking forward to your replies.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

 

The VAG 1.9 PD you mentioned can go for astronomical miles if looked after. The engine will far far far outlive the car if treated right. Our Golf 1.9 is currently on 210 thousand miles and doesnt burn oil or show any signs of wear.

 

My opinion is; 

 

When looking at a newer second hand motor, DPF AND EGR introduction have made it a bit of a lottery and dependant more on the type of miles a diesel has covered. Short journeys and lots of cold starts are the killer and these technologies are a fortune to repair if they go wrong.

 

I went for a young, ex fleet Superb 1.6 CR Diesel car with high mileage (3.5 years/92k miles, but wasn't a taxi) which all but guaranteed that the miles covered were long journeys/motorway, which the engine loves and is also minimal wear on the gearbox etc.

 

In just over a year of ownership it hasn't so much as hiccupped once.

 

A young high mileage diesel is a better option than a 10 year old motor which has covered 25k.

 

I think by definition, a modern diesel with low mileage for its age should be avoided.

 

Again, my opinion but I would buy another high miler in a heartbeat if I had to.

 

2 hours ago, chipmonster said:

What is this fix?

 

how do I know if it has been done?

 

Does it relate to manual or automatic cars?

 

many thanks

All of the diesel engine options on the Superb 2 are EA189 and are affected by the defeat device VAG were found to have installed in the engine's ECU to make it perform better during the emissions tests carried out for the vehicle's type approval.

 

As a result of this, VAG have rolled out a series of engine software upgrades to remove the defeat device and retune the engine so that it can meet the relevant emissions standards during normal engine operation. Some people feel this has harmed the performance of the engine and have chosen to have the software update removed from their vehicles. The new religion around here is that the update ('The Fix!') is bad and everyone should have this update removed ASAP.

 

Of note is that VAG are providing a 2-year warranty on emissions related components (DPF, EGR valve, injectors) on vehicles that have been updated. Quite a few people have had a new EGR valve fitted under this warranty, and VAG seem to be good about honouring it.

 

There are a few accounts too from people who bought cars not knowing that the ECU had been updated, or that their vehicle had been updated during a service without them knowing, and found that they had not noticed it in the vehicle's performance.

 

The fact that you are planning to do a lot of motorway mileage means that you are highly unlikely to have issues with the DPF or EGR valve, even with the software update since the engine will spend long periods at operating temperature and relatively low load.

16 hours ago, chipmonster said:

Dear All

 

I have owned a Skoda Superb Elegance 2005 1.9 TDI (sold 4 years ago and I did 100k miles on it before I sold it and it was the best car I have ever had - been driving for over 20 years). Company car came along and had to move to a Nissan leaf for two years and Mercedes Plug in Hybrid (had for the last 2  years). No boot space and I am missing the Skoda Superb. 

 

I am a bit out of touch on the Skoda now after 4 years. My budget is between £8 - £10k. Shall I buy the automatic DSG or the manual (would like the automatic and are they reliable). Is it worth buying the 4x4 option and I would like the 170 BHP options. Also, I am going to buy the elegance model.

 

Let me know which is the best engine in this range and what to avoid. 

 

I know these cars have the DPF filters on them now (has anyone had any problems with their diesel).

 

Would like to hear from the estate owners to let me know what they like and not like about their car. Are they still reliable? Are these cars good for mileage between 150K - 200k if regularly serviced. I do high motorway mileage and would buy a car at about 80K miles and it won't be long before it is approaching over 150K. 

 

Sorry, lots of questions but I am so excited at the moment. Really looking forward to start shopping!

 

Looking forward to your replies.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm on my second Superb 2 estate (crashed the first one and it ended up a Cat D writeoff), one manual and one DSG, both FWD and CR170, both Elegance.

 

In general, the estate is massive and well thought out. Lots of rear legroom, so if you have older children you shouldn't have complaints from them about being in the back. I've found the rear legroom leaves plenty of room to manoeuvre my kids into and out of the child seats (I have 2 under the age of 3). Lots of room in the boot too: on that I'd try and find a car that has the load securing system with the rails, cross bar and strap. With the boot being so big, loose items will have lots of room to slide around back there and using the bar to divide off the boot into a smaller area stops this happening. The boot is usefully wide and long too so there's good floor area on it, something missing in a lot of SUVs where the boot has ended up shorter and they compensate by making it tall.

 

As for the drivetrain, the CR170 is as much engine as you'd need really. I've rarely (if ever) found myself wishing I had more power with it. DPF is not much of a problem on it, especially on cars getting a lot of motorway use: unlike the older PD engines where the DPF was a later addition, on the CR engines it was designed in from the start and works much better. EGR valves are a weak spot, again especially on low mileage cars, and the EA189 update is exposing a lot of failing EGR valves recently since it works the EGR valve that bit harder: the 2-year warranty has been useful here for owners that have been affected this way.

 

The DSG transmission suits the character of the car very well, and I can't say I've missed having a manual in it. The 6-speed wet clutch design used in the 2.0 TDIs is not known for issues once it has been serviced properly. It needs a fluid and filter change every 40000 miles/60000 km - if this hasn't been done it's probably best to walk away. In the pre-facelift cars, the DSG had slightly shorter gearing than the manual and has slightly worse CO2 emissions and fuel economy than the manual: this might have implications for motor tax or BiK taxes. Do your homework on this.

 

I can't say much about the 4x4 option as I haven't driven one. If you live in an area that's prone to poor winter driving conditions it would be worth considering. It will of course bring a penalty on performance, emissions and fuel economy due to the extra weight and driveline losses. Make sure the Haldex unit has been properly serviced. Like the DSG it needs a fluid change every 40000 miles/60000 km and there's a filter that has to be changed periodically too but I'm not sure of the interval. Do a search around here and you'll find posts on it. Again, if it hasn't been properly serviced, walk away. People have noted poorer braking on 4x4 cars compared to the FWD equivalent, so this might be something to think about.

 

If you want DSG, 4x4 and the CR170 you'll have to look for a facelifted car, introduced for the 2014 model year. They started showing up on forecourts in the latter part of 2013 (63 plate).

 

Given the size, and especially the length, of the car I'd recommend finding one with both front and rear parking sensors. The car is over 4.8 m long and visibility of the extremities is not brilliant from the driver's seat.

Been looking, struggling to find the 170bhp one.

 

what about the 140 bhp, plenty of them about. I will probably go for a manual if 140 bhp. Any experience of this engine.

 

many thanks

If you want to check to see if the car has been 'updated' put it's details here, it needs the VIN. http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo/check-your-vehicle

I've had my 63 plate 140 (not an estate) remapped, it gives 193bhp on a rolling road. Before the map, some overtakes had to be planned/delayed, now it just gets on with it. The car has performed flawlessly in the 20 months that I have owned it, just had the timing belt replaced and it should be due a service soon.

2 hours ago, chipmonster said:

Been looking, struggling to find the 170bhp one.

 

what about the 140 bhp, plenty of them about. I will probably go for a manual if 140 bhp. Any experience of this engine.

 

many thanks

 

Stay clear of any euro 5 diesel that has had the fix, I wouldn't touch one of these engines unless I knew it still had the cheat device on it. If you do manage to find one they are good engines, the DPF system on these is very tolerant and will allow a lot more running about and town driving than previous generations of TDIs from VW.

 

I have a 2015 140 SE business estate which is great, the rear leg room is ridiculous and the boot is large although like most modern estate cars the roof slopes down which makes the load area a bit less practical but better looking than just having a square rear end.

 

The only big issues that stick in my mind from this forum was a few cases of the clutch failing and eating its way though the bell housing at around 40K miles, and maybe a few cases of EGR failures.

 

 

I am going to see a car which is for sale.

 

it has 90k miles and it’s 170 bhp 2.0 litre DSG Elegance 2015 (registered may 2015) Estate. They are saying it’s has full dealer history.

 

What service am I looking out for particularly the dsg box?

 

Also what are the service intervals for the timing belts on this car?

 

 

Edited 16 August, 20187 yr by chipmonster
Missed something

Our 2010 TDI170 wagon is going strong at 113,000miles. Cambelt done at 100kms, and suspension bushes  all starting to get soft and need replacement. This has led to dramatic wear on the inside of the front tyres. Apart from normal servicing, not much has gone wrong with the car, and we'd certainly buy another. If I had the choice I'd get the panoramic roof next time (make sure the drain hose(s) are cleaned frequently) and avoid the electric  boot which doesnt like being used in strong winds and struts can fail which is expensive. I'd also recommend the higher spec Elegance version with heated seats front and back AND the 170hp engine, as the others were too sluggish for me. This also has the more reliable 6 speed DSG box.

 

The DSG box needs a fluid and filter change at 37,000 miles (this is the NZ service manual I am quoting).

 

Good luck.

bought ours at 93k had a full history from skoda incl the cambelt changed just before purchase, 170 DSG elegance estate all I can say is its been brilliant had it since Feb and so far have done just over 12k and nil dramas we serviced the DSG just after purchase as it was due the first one was done at 46k, the only issue we had was the thermostat for the DSG box was faulty so it over cooled the engine from memory i think it was 40.00 for the part and coolant plus fitting , a member on here activated the hill hold and the electronic diff  brilliant car and the fix has not been applied offered but refused.

I believe ours may have been remapped before we got it though as it is indecently quick 0-60 is just over 7secs but it still returns 45mpg avg without trying  and the mrs gets 53 on a run god knows how.

Thank you all for all your help.

 

i am now pleased to announce that I am a proud owner of a Skoda Superb Estate Elegance 170 bhp.

 

I am moving from a Mercedes C350e to a Skoda and the Skoda is far better!

 

thanks again

On ‎20‎/‎08‎/‎2018 at 19:39, cssuk said:

I believe ours may have been remapped before we got it though as it is indecently quick 0-60 is just over 7secs but it still returns 45mpg avg without trying  and the mrs gets 53 on a run god knows how.

Similar performance / economy numbers on mine, but if I'm careful I can get just over 57mpg on freeway trips.