Hey guys this abit of a one of those questions where it's opinion based, I'm comming to the end of my finance agreement for my Fabia, I've been reading that these 1.6tdi, are not the quality I was lead to believe, so I have the option of buying the car @ £2500, with a total cost of around 6.5k or handing it back with around a loss of 4k, or swop to a new car ( not so sure on this), I was concidering buying then selling but I'm pretty sure it won't sell, it's got around 91k on the clock, runs great (no engine fix) but with the deisel becoming a relic, I'm concidering the financial hit now might be better in the long run.

 

Just wondered if anyone else on here has been in a similar position?

I was in a similar position to you a couple of months back. Finance aside, I own the car, it's a 2010 Fabia 1.6 TDI Elegance with 90k miles. Have a full set of winter wheels and tyres, summer alloys unmarked and zero rust on bodywork. Car just got a new tailgate under warranty and timing belt is good to 2021. This is my daily driver so gets well used, not short run start and stop journeys.

 

That said, I've had my share of glow plug wiring issues, DPF issues and just lately the air intake temperature sensor. Only thing needing doing us couple of lower suspension bushes and I'll put new discs and pads on in a month or so.

 

I was in two minds what to do, so got a quote via webuyanycar. Came back at £2k. Reckon it's easily worth £2,600 to £2,800 privately and there is the predicament. It's just £30 road tax a year, and although not particularly frugal will return 55-60mpg.

 

I agree the diesels are goosed long term. The choice now is either petrol or electric, or indeed a hybrid. Diesel technology won't be supported long-term, so regardless of whether it's the latest Euro 6 with Adblue, it's a potential money pit as soon as it goes outside warranty given it's loaded with sensors.

 

I'd be tempted to hand it back if you can trade to a new car as I think you may struggle to sell at the right price. Obviously do your homework first. If you can't be bothered with more finance, buy it and just run it, it's a cheap motor, and engine is good for double the mileage.

 

I'm holding on to mine and plan to sell next summer.

 

 

 

 

Edited 25 September, 20187 yr by spartacus68

Thanks you for sharing that, my situation changed at work so alot of my driving now is town based so it's short stop start journeys, and I do get the dreaded DPF light and have to take it for a burn out, I'm leaning on the trade it in side and get a cheap run around for work, I've got till December to decide. It's in good nick so hopefully they won't rape me on the trade in.

Do not trade in then if you can sell on Briskoda or get more money elsewhere.

http://wizzle.co.uk

Even WBAC or Evans Halshaw might give a few hundred quid more than the Trade In Offer as some now are that lazy they quote under their prices knowing your car can go to them and they make money rather than it going to auction.

 

Your car could be more desirable to a private buyer since it has not had the Emissions Fix. 

Or maybe the 91,000 miles is just too high.

Many will not want to touch with someone else's barge pole.

http://skoda.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo/check-your-vehicle

 

Edited 26 September, 20187 yr by Offski

thanks for sending over those links :) its the risk of it not selling and then something going wrong and hitting me with extra ££££ to repair, I've heard these engines have a large list of high cost issues that are now starting to surface due mainly to the emission fix and the age of the car, which sucks so much :(, i do love my car. ill do some more digging, i was looking at a Renault Zoe today what have i become!!! :|

I have looked at Used / Ex Demo Zoe and driven them and would happily have one as a daily driver when not needing to go far but using an Electric Bike for that currently.

They can be really cheap used.  Silly Asking prices for some are not what you need to pay obviously.

 

It is down to buying or leasing and leasing batteries and how it works out for you.

Personally i am waiting a while before committing to a EV as tried most available and other than for local use they are not much cope for me when doing trips where there are not charging facilities where i am heading.

Loads around me locally though, Dundee is Electric City now and there are a good few public charging points now where i live and lots more being installed soon.

 

Still handy to be able to jump in a Petrol or Diesel and just head off for hundreds of miles and not have to think where you have to stop or park.

yeah very true infrastructure isn't quite there, i was shocked how cheap they were seen some for £5000, i wondered how the battery was handled i assumed there was some exchange of money involved. i cant wait to have a have a charging point at my house only one slight issue though i need a house first haha doesn't help being in london.

...Be worth holding on to for a few more years and then, most likely as not, there will be bigger incentives to P/X to a full blown "Leccie", such as scrappage schemes, etc.

 

Push them to take £2000, though... I bet they will, if they think they are gonna get it handed back!

Play the old "I think I'll return it as they are plummeting like a stone" Ruse.

Edited 26 September, 20187 yr by mrgf

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...Be worth holding on to for a few more years and then, most likely as not, there will be bigger incentives to P/X to a full blown "Leccie", such as scrappage schemes, etc.

 

will do man thanks for the tips, im gonna push for gold, the car came with a scratch and i can see them pointing to it and going - £100 there. ill do some digging if these problems are just related to the emission 'Fix'. the car seems great runs great but you never know.

My wife sold her 2003 Audi A2 diesel with 150k miles last year and opted for a 2-year old BMW i3 REx. The REx stands for range extender. It has a real world range of 75 miles on electric, and probably the same again on petrol. Just 13 litre fuel tank. There's actually thing called range anxiety, and until you start driving one, it's hard to explain. 

 

We spent a good 3 months researching. Right now the infrastructure still isn't there for electric, although it's developing quickly but the market is still quite fragmented. In Scotland you can get a £500 grant towards a home charger which is fantastic.

 

Definately test drive an electric car if you're thinking along those lines. The BMW wasn't cheap, but it's got a 100,000 or 8-year warranty on the battery, and to be fair they've honoured warranty claims on torn shock absorber dust sleeves and a fuel pressure sensor. It's got more toys than Hamleys and the acceleration is addictive.

 

What put my wife of the Zoe was renting/leasing the battery. She wanted a one off cost, then simply the maintence of the car in terms of running costs. 

 

Give the technology another 2-3 years and we'll hopefully be seeing cars with 250-300 mile electric ranges. At that point, given costs aren't prohibitive we'll probably see a seismic shift towards them.

when the i3 came out i was in love with it, but i have gone off its looks now, i'm kinda liking the new shape for the Nissan leaf  :P. on another note does anyone know what i need to get the OBD2 up and running want to check Oilash levels in the DPF, if its really high then that means it needs cleaning or could need to be replaced, been googling but its hard to find a full hands on tutorial for a skoda.

Try driving a i3 BMW if you have not done, especially one with a range extender, they are a different class from even the latest Leaf.

Finally got around to check my oil ash residue, DPF is about 54% full which seems alright tbh @ 91k miles. didn't really get me closer to deciding its fate though haha

Hey guys had a test drive of a 09 octy vrs tfsi 55k today, I mentioned that the cambelt and water pump hadn't been changed and that it will need doing and he said it doesn't have one or doesn't need to be changed thought that was wrong?. Ne ways he offered me 2700 for the Fabia, bring it down to 4.5k, what do you guys think, it was in ok condition need a good clean, drived well.

I have a similar car to you but a 2010 (no fix thank god), i have around 65k on it so pretty low, i have owned it from a year or so old and apart from the usual svc bits and a few issues here and there it has been great, cheap to insure, tax and my MPG is great, it does what it says on the tin, yes diesel in years to come will be pants but by then i will be ready for a change, as for EV...... not a chance right now, the cars are moving along at a pace but the infra-structure..... where is it ? I live close to the Trafford centre and in one of the biggest car parks there are 6 electric charge points !!!! Oh and last weekend when it was rammed one of them was taken up by a diesel Merc....... cheeky bugger. I just can not commit to EV until the charging network takes a 100% shift upwards, and i can not see that happening for at least a decade.

12 hours ago, Hudson1 said:

I have a similar car to you but a 2010 (no fix thank god), i have around 65k on it so pretty low, i have owned it from a year or so old and apart from the usual svc bits and a few issues here and there it has been great, cheap to insure, tax and my MPG is great, it does what it says on the tin, yes diesel in years to come will be pants but by then i will be ready for a change, as for EV...... not a chance right now, the cars are moving along at a pace but the infra-structure..... where is it ? I live close to the Trafford centre and in one of the biggest car parks there are 6 electric charge points !!!! Oh and last weekend when it was rammed one of them was taken up by a diesel Merc....... cheeky bugger. I just can not commit to EV until the charging network takes a 100% shift upwards, and i can not see that happening for at least a decade.

 

No change there then, according to some casual browsing on a Tesla owners forum in USA, couples with EV and a young family tend to travel over night when going on longer journeys, the charging points at service areas tend to be at the associated motel and all near the main entrance, so big fat lazy yanks drive their gas guzzlers up to the main door and fill up the charging point parking slots first - and nothing can be done because the motel chains rent these areas out to a third party, so even in USA on/near main interstate roads, EV charging, while provided is typically not available - nice!