vRS reveal

[Ootohere]

'Apparently' as i see it Carwow publish so much that is inaccurate and i never see an apology,  they are like a brother from another mother with Auto Express.

[TonyTonic]

2 minutes ago, Offski said:

'Apparently' as i see it Carwow publish so much that is inaccurate and i never see an apology,  they are like a brother from another mother with Auto Express.

How much is the most expensive Kodiaq now without options obviously?

 

Add at least 2K to that and you'll get the vRS price. Sound ok? I hope it will be under 40, something like 39,500

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[Ootohere]

You can get a nice brand new VW Toureg with some power like 286ps for under £44,500 cash money.   Saving £7,000 or so on the RRP.

If they are still doing them...

[TonyTonic]

3 minutes ago, Offski said:

You can get a nice brand new VW Toureg with some power like 286ps for under £44,500 cash money.   Saving £7,000 or so on the RRP.

If they are still doing them...

SO the vRS after the first rush of customers is over should be cash for £32K I reckon

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[Ootohere]

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What first rush?

Cheap Lease deals for Skoda to have them in the dealership a few days then on the roads, and those rushing to get those good deals.  

Then some Media cars for the mags, and the Dealership Demonstrators. Principal Dealer.

[silver1011]

20 minutes ago, TonyTonic said:

Apparently the vRS is on sale form late 2018 and it will cost from £40,000 according to CarWow. That's me out then as there is no way I am paying £310 extra in road tax.

 

But it's a £40,000+ car. Is the vehicle tax increase really bad enough to stop you buying one?

 

Under £40K (diesel) = £140 x 5 = £700

Over £40K (diesel) = 1x £140 + 4x £450 = £1,940

 

So for a vRS, over 5 years, you're paying an extra £1,240 (3%), hardly enough to push you down the route of a completely different model?

 

Given current discounts are between 10-20% the 3% extra vehicle tax is the difference between an OK deal and a good deal.

 

If I wanted a vRS I wouldn't be letting the vehicle tax overly-influence my decision.

[TonyTonic]

6 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

But it's a £40,000+ car. Is the vehicle tax increase really bad enough to stop you buying one?

 

Under £40K (diesel) = £140 x 5 = £700

Over £40K (diesel) = 1x £140 + 4x £450 = £1,940

 

So for a vRS, over 5 years, you're paying an extra £1,240 (3%), hardly enough to push you down the route of a completely different model?

 

Given current discounts are between 10-20% the 3% extra vehicle tax is the difference between an OK deal and a good deal.

 

If I wanted a vRS I wouldn't be letting the vehicle tax overly-influence my decision.

It's actually £450 per year from years 2 - 6

So first year road tax included in the on the road price, could be approx 1000£ not sure on these.

then 5x£450 

 

But your point is valid, I am just correcting the facts, and I suppose it depends 'how' the car is purchased

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[TonyTonic]

11 minutes ago, Offski said:

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What first rush?

Cheap Lease deals for Skoda to have them in the dealership a few days then on the roads, and those rushing to get those good deals.  

Then some Media cars for the mags, and the Dealership Demonstrators. Principal Dealer.

Do you not think that when any new car is released there is more orders to begin with? Not sure, I though this is the case.

[Ootohere]

I know how many orders that Dealerships put in and how many customers are waiting to order for different cars, 

and how many Skoda UK try to get to Fleet etc.

 

Manufacturers never want 'New Cars' looking like a flop by the 2nd quarter they are on sale.

VW, Audi, Skoda, SEAT are well known as others are, just get them First Registered. 

Make it look like demand outstrips supply.

 

Difference this year there is demand outstripping supply and not just for Halo Models.

 

I know that Audi want the New EV ordered online with as deposit paid in advance as that is the TESLA way.

[silver1011]

4 minutes ago, TonyTonic said:

It's actually £450 per year from years 2 - 6

 

Good point...

 

 

 

The 2.0 TDI 190PS SportLine has a CO2 of 151g/km putting it into band I. Assuming the 245PS vRS doesn't exceed 170g/km...

 

Under £40K (diesel) = 1x £515 + 5x £140 = £1,215

Over £40K (diesel) = 1x £450 + 5x £450 = £2,700

 

A difference of £1,485 over 6 years (or 3.7% of the £40K list).

[TonyTonic]

23 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

Good point...

 

 

 

The 2.0 TDI 190PS SportLine has a CO2 of 151g/km putting it into band I. Assuming the 245PS vRS doesn't exceed 170g/km...

 

Under £40K (diesel) = 1x £515 + 5x £140 = £1,215

Over £40K (diesel) = 1x £450 + 5x £450 = £2,700

 

A difference of £1,485 over 6 years (or 3.7% of the £40K list).

According to VW the engine emits 167 gr of CO2 so:

 

it would be first year £500 then 5 x £450 = £2,750 if >£40K

 

or 

 

£500 + 5 x 140£ = £1,200 if < £40K

 

difference of £1,550 over 6 years

 

That applies to every car over £40k - all of them pay £1,550 extra over years 2-6 as it's a flat rate

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[silver1011]

The Skoda screen grab is dated, the first year for band I has gone up to £515.

 

The first year for cars over £40K is actually less than those under £40K (£515 vs. £450).

[TonyTonic]

2 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

The Skoda screen grab is dated, the first year for band I has gone up to £515.

 

The first year for cars over £40K is actually less than those under £40K (£515 vs. £450).

OK, I stand corrected , I didnt know it went up

 

Why is it less for under 40? I though the first year was emissions based and then after based on list price

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[silver1011]

I guess either way, the cost upper from the higher VED is most relevant at this price bracket. As you get into VW Toureg, Audi Q5 territory etc. then it becomes less of a factor.

 

Let's see what Skoda do when they announce their pricing for the vRS 

 

£39,999 anyone!?

 

 

Edited 4 October, 2018 by silver1011

[silver1011]

10 minutes ago, TonyTonic said:

OK, I stand corrected , I didnt know it went up

 

Why is it less for under 40? I though the first year was emissions based and then after based on list price

 

Not sure, this is from https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables, I might be reading it wrong...

 

 

 

Edited 4 October, 2018 by silver1011

[TonyTonic]

6 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

Not sure, this is from the www.gov.uk website...

 

yes, from year 2-6 - flat rate for all cars. (as it says: You only have to pay this rate for 5 years from the second time the vehicle is taxed) and then it goes down to £140 from year 7

 

the skoda screengrab you posted  is the first year payment (minus the new updated price)

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[TonyTonic]

8 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

I guess either way, the cost upper from the higher VED is most relevant at this price bracket. As you get into VW Toureg, Audi Q5 territory etc. then it becomes less of a factor.

 

Let's see what Skoda do when they announce their pricing for the vRS 

 

£39,999 anyone!?

 

 

Who knows, I dont' think Skoda care anymore, since they removed the 22K base Kodiaq and made the startign price 28K.

Bear in mind there  will be a 7 seater option as well so possibly the basic one will creep under 40K but everything else definitely over

[silver1011]

4 minutes ago, TonyTonic said:

yes, from year 2-6 - flat rate for all cars. (as it says: You only have to pay this rate for 5 years from the second time the vehicle is taxed)

 

the skoda screengrab you posted  is the first year payment (minus the new updated price)

 

So the first year payment on a £40,000 band I car is £450?

 

Then for years 2 through 6 it is £140 + £310 = £450?

[TonyTonic]

6 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

So the first year payment on a £40,000 band I car is £450?

 

Then for years 2 through 6 it is £140 + £310 = £450?

no, the first year is 515£ based on emissions band if it meets the RDE2 standard which the dealer pays when they register and tax the car, this is included in the on the road price.

 

The first year tax payment does NOT take into account the list price of the car.

 

Subsequent payments from years 2 -6 are base don list price. Under 40K £140 and over 40K £450

Edited 4 October, 2018 by TonyTonic

[ZacDaMan72]

http://cc-cloud.skoda-auto.com/cze/cze/cs-cz/ns7/67649

 

Configurator here

[silver1011]

1,196,800 CZK / £40,809 GBP.

[linni]

47 000 euros???

Fully loaded Tiguan Alltrack costs the same amount here. Why should I choose Skoda over VW?

[ZacDaMan72]

2 minutes ago, linni said:

47 000 euros???

Fully loaded Tiguan Alltrack costs the same amount here. Why should I choose Skoda over VW?

Tiguan's interior quality is rubbish to the Kodiaq, and the boot is much better designed in the Skoda.

[linni]

HUD, Dynamic LED-s, all assists, ACC, 3 zone climatronic, virtual pedal, heated windscreen and seats, adaptive chassis, KESSY - all included in VW, but as option in Skoda.

[linni]

14 minutes ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

Tiguan's interior quality is rubbish to the Kodiaq

 

I really doubt in this. Never seen Skoda with better interior quality than VW.

This could never happen as Skoda is stated as cheaper model than VW in VAG group.