On 28/02/2019 at 21:42, Brackett said:

Way more than £3 or 4k when main dealers are selling pre-reg for £23k (10 miles on the clock) why would anyone give you £25 or £26k for it? 

 

Just investigating what I might replace the Supberb with and via my usual boker had a quote for an Octavia 2.0 TSI 245 vRS 5dr [Black Pack]. With discounts and contributions its £21951.60 OTR including 2 free services.

 

Anyone paying full retail needs their heads reading.

On a related note, spare a thought for those who bought a Tesla recently at the original price...Tesla have just slashed up to £40k off the top models! That would be pretty hard to take. 

30 minutes ago, skidpan said:

 

Just investigating what I might replace the Supberb with and via my usual boker had a quote for an Octavia 2.0 TSI 245 vRS 5dr [Black Pack]. With discounts and contributions its £21951.60 OTR including 2 free services.

 

Anyone paying full retail needs their heads reading.

 

Could you share the name of your usual broker please? PM would be great if it would break forum rules to post

1 hour ago, pist0nbr0ke said:

On a related note, spare a thought for those who bought a Tesla recently at the original price...Tesla have just slashed up to £40k off the top models! That would be pretty hard to take. 

Very much doubt they'll be many Tesla customers who bought their top model cars with cash. It will however have the knock-on effect of wiping out any equity in cars that folk have bought on PCP but if they could afford cash... not sure that'll bother them too much.  What it does say tho is expect to take a hit on any new technology in it's infancy. Whether it be latest phone, flat screen TVs etc - they all attract a premium when launched, until they become common-place when they become next to worthless.  It's just one reason I wouldn't go near an electric car with my own money right now.

 

1 hour ago, skidpan said:

 

Just investigating what I might replace the Supberb with and via my usual boker had a quote for an Octavia 2.0 TSI 245 vRS 5dr [Black Pack]. With discounts and contributions its £21951.60 OTR including 2 free services.

 

Octavia 3 coming to end of life so it's not surprising. Same when I was looking for an estate, if I hadn't found the Octavia I was going for a Passat estate. List was £29k, cheapest dealer £24k, Drive the deal £21.5k.  And then VW announced a minor spec change. List remained the same, dealer remained the same, broker £23.5k - for about three weeks, then it went back to £21.5k.

 

Always worth doing homework on a car to find out about spec change, facelifts, new models etc - it can greatly affect the price you pay up front, but the difference when you come to sell is minimal. If you're in the fortunate position of being able to pay cash and you get the timing right, no lease or PCP or whatever can come close to cash. Get your timings wrong and it's vice-versa.  Never let anyone tell you one form of payment is better than the other, just depends on the individual deal.

Edited 5 March, 20197 yr by Guest

If you pick up a New Suzuki Jimny today you will find dealers and private buyers that will buy it off you for more than you just paid.

& that is an under £20,000 vehicle.

If you can get an Automatic one then you can make even more money selling it than if you have a manual.

 

just how some cars can be sometimes, but not usually for new £20,000-£23,000 cars.

4 hours ago, SunsetZed said:

 

Could you share the name of your usual broker please? PM would be great if it would break forum rules to post

 

Mentioned them plenty of times before, its Carfile.net.

 

Bought the Leon, Superb and Fabia using them and the deals have been top notch. There are possibly lower prices out there but some come with added risk especially the brokers that ask for 100% of the money before you even see the car. With Carfile.net you never pass them a single penny, the transaction is 100% with the dealer just like it would be with a normal purchase. The only difference is the saving.

 

But they have not been the best every time. Some years ago it was a toss up between a Civic 2.2 D and a BMW 118D. Local Honda dealer had car we wanted in stock for immediate delivery and without knowing we had obtained a broker price he offered us a better deal. Did not matter, we preferred the BMW and in that case the BMW dealer matched Carfile when I told him he was too expensive without knowing the broker or price, how did he do that? Local Nissan dealer offered a better price than Carfile on a new Note and included the £199 3 years servicing in the deal.

 

I would not use a different broker but I always check the local dealers as well.

Carfile were cheap but not the cheapest, and I'm not the biggest fan of the usual dealer from CarFile. I ended up using Drive the Deal with Simpsons Skoda in Great Yarmouth as the cheapest... a bit of a trek from York but was worth the planned trip away when the car finally shows up.

 

Internet buying should absolutely change how you approach dealerships - for new and used, autotrader, gumtree, carwow, drivethedeal etc etc etc are all there to give you an insight into the right price, and helps you make an informed decision.

It might not always work for your local dealer - neither DM Keith nor Des Winks entertained the offer Simpsons made, but I don't have much "loyalty" to a dealership that I only see once a year for servicing, then having to make my own showroom coffee :/

17 hours ago, skidpan said:

 

Mentioned them plenty of times before, its Carfile.net.

 

Bought the Leon, Superb and Fabia using them and the deals have been top notch. There are possibly lower prices out there but some come with added risk especially the brokers that ask for 100% of the money before you even see the car. With Carfile.net you never pass them a single penny, the transaction is 100% with the dealer just like it would be with a normal purchase. The only difference is the saving.

 

But they have not been the best every time. Some years ago it was a toss up between a Civic 2.2 D and a BMW 118D. Local Honda dealer had car we wanted in stock for immediate delivery and without knowing we had obtained a broker price he offered us a better deal. Did not matter, we preferred the BMW and in that case the BMW dealer matched Carfile when I told him he was too expensive without knowing the broker or price, how did he do that? Local Nissan dealer offered a better price than Carfile on a new Note and included the £199 3 years servicing in the deal.

 

I would not use a different broker but I always check the local dealers as well.

 

Thanks

On 05/03/2019 at 12:29, Skoffski said:

If you pick up a New Suzuki Jimny today you will find dealers and private buyers that will buy it off you for more than you just paid.

& that is an under £20,000 vehicle.

If you can get an Automatic one then you can make even more money selling it than if you have a manual.

 

just how some cars can be sometimes, but not usually for new £20,000-£23,000 cars.

 

It's a nice story. Can you show me the dealer who will buy the car for more than it's list price?  Yes I know all about certain cars selling out, but these guys are there to make profit. If they buy the car from you for more than you paid for it, they'd have to already have a buyer lined up who's willing to pay even more.

 

The theory works for limited production runs, but all that's happened here is the Jimny allocation is sold out - they'll be others along.

 

Anyway, if you had been lucky enough to have bought one of the 1st Jimny's, why sell it? What are you going to replace it with? Whatever you do replace it with, it's more than likey it'll depreciate much more than that Jimny would have therefore selling it for a small profit now would be a false economy - you'd effectively be out-of-pocket.

 

As I say, it's a nice story.

Nice story and true and i know those that have got there ordered vehicles coming, and have already sold their cars to others.

They speculated to accumulate as Traders do. Order when you can and secure with a deposit.

Of those 2 going to be converted to Pick Ups. 

 

Of the discontinued Jimny, there are those that have sold those for more than they paid for them.

If you think i am lying that is up to you.

Find me where you can get a New Suzuki Jimny Automatic in the UK that will be at the under £20,000 RRP, or even the odd one thast was advertised at just under £24,000.  Which is sold.

 

http://autotrader.co.uk

 

 

New Jimny's limited availability to the UK and in the EU is due to the ridiculously high C02 g/km and Suzuki requiring to have a low average across their sales.

So among the other models there are low emissions figures. 

They have received a WLTP exemptions @ type Approval and testing due to low volume production.

 

When i wanted the New Jimny with an Autobox in 1998 it was late 1999 before the Dealer could get me one.

http://autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-guides/used-car-buying-guide-suzuki-jimny

 

 

 

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by Skoffski