Hey,

 

Yesterday I wanted to replace the halogen headlights to full led headlights (original skoda parts) but had some trouble getting it done.

First of all I would like to note that the connector is the same and the full part of the led-headlight is exactly the same form as the halogen-parts.

So I should be able to swap them. Just de Light Assist won't work as that is controlled by a camera and such... but in the manuel it say that it is not required as not all karoq versions come with it intalled.

 

My problem is that the front headlights are hold up in the center behind the frontgrill.

So I think I need to remove the full front(grill) bodypart to remove and intall the headlights.

I come across some removal instructions to remove the front of a Octavia 3 and was wondering if this would be the same for the Karoq:

 

FYI: the leds that I have are these parts:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-New-Full-Led-Headlight-Right-Left-Complete-Skoda-Karoq-57B941015B-/153168750008

or see the attached file.

 

Thans, any help would be welcome ;-)

 

Interesting , u are very brave

Do you have any photos of your current situation? , also you need a lot of coding , 

out of curiosity Did the seller send you installation instructions?

There is a post with all the workshop manuals , there is a lso a manual for removing the lights.

you have to remove the entire front bumper

Edited 5 March, 20197 yr by Tezaman

No, I have no instructions.

 

Do you think that it need some coding/changes in the boardcomputer (Amundsen) ?

If so, what's de procedure for that ?

 

I thought is was like : remove the old halogen headlights  > install the new LED headlight > replug the connections > and play thing.

 

Looking forward for any help.

 

 

i would put the old lights back in and source some help mate. carnt see this been a simple diy job and could go very wrong.

Camera is not needed for Light Assist, I guess it should be coded with proper BCE unit. My car does not have camera but LA works...

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by irfant

48 minutes ago, irfant said:

Camera is not needed for Light Assist, I guess it should be coded with proper BCE unit. My car does not have camera but LA works...

 

when you mean light assist , i guess you are talking about the Lights on and off depending on environment light  (small sensor under the mirror)

 

"High Beam" assist needs the lane camera

13 minutes ago, Tezaman said:

 

when you mean light assist , i guess you are talking about the Lights on and off depending on environment light  (small sensor under the mirror)

 

 

Yes!

 

Additionally LED headlights are AHL (adaptive headlights): moves the projectors or turns on extra lights to alter where the light cone is, common modes include city, motorway/highway, rain, fog and out of city (speed dependent light cone modes).

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by irfant

3 minutes ago, irfant said:

Yes!

 

Additionally LED headlights are AHL (adaptive headlights): moves the projectors or turns on extra lights to alter where the light cone is, common modes include city, motorway/highway, rain, fog and out of city (speed dependent light cone modes).

Correct!

 

SXT1KAROQ i ll watch carefully this thread , please keep it updated , if i find something ill post it here 

i am interesting too for this retrofit , 

 

First of all Download this PDF 

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=134181

 

PAGE 72 is how to remove the head lights 

unfortunately we dont have the Karoq-General_body_repairs__EXTERIOR for you to see how to remove the front bumper....  but more or less its the same 

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by Tezaman

There should be sensors on both axles to adjusts the headlights vertically for load and terrain. Does halogen fitted Karoq's have them?

@irfant Do you have an image of that ?

@irfant there are 3 yellow plastic screws (hex socket) like on the halogens. Those are there for adjusting the lights? Or am I wrong?

@Tezaman you are right about the adaptive headlights-thing. From my research it is not mandatory for the led headlights to function. 

 

Conserning the removal of the front grill. It think is should be basicly the same as for the Octavia (as provided in the link from my first post) to remove the whole part. What is you opinion on that ?

32 minutes ago, SXT1KAROQ said:

@irfant there are 3 yellow plastic screws (hex socket) like on the halogens. Those are there for adjusting the lights? Or am I wrong?

 

Those are for manual setting. 

 

With the Automatic Headlight Beam Adjustment, lights can correct themselves instantaneously depending on the state of the vehicle itself, so that the lights always operate within an acceptable range. 

 

By the law, auto leveling are mandatory (Xenons and LEDs).

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by irfant

Yes Halogen have them , i can move the Headlights beam vertically up down , from the main Screen infotainment

 

PS . I have replaced all my halogen bulbs with LEDS , i mean everything . 

With Philips LED bulbs ,

 

Turn Lights

H11 lights

Head lights

High beams 

 

Ofcourse is not the same with the OEM Leds , 

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by Tezaman

I just forgot something VERY VERY important , 

if you remove the front bumper and you have ACC radar , if i am not wrong you have to re calibrated , please double check this with your Service guys

@Tezaman Thanks for the important information about the ACC radar > because I have one installed !

 

In my Karoq I have also the possibility to move the halogen headlights up and down from my infotainment system (Amundsen).

So this should be in place. From my sources: the vertical adjusting (auto leveling) in the full LED Headlights is done automaticly in the LED assembly itself.

So auto-leveing the new LED Headlights should work.

 

As for the Adaptive LED Headlights technology (which adapts the beam depending on other vehicules, corners etc.) it needs cameras both on the back and the front to see and recognise other vehicules and pedestrians to adapt the correct lighting conditions. Am I right ?

 

(Not back and front)    Back is only for reverse !

 

you need this camera. wich goes in front

By the way i retrofitted one , its a true pain , and needs calibration.

so start with retrofiting the lights first , !!!!
 

 Adaptive LED  can wait a litlle bit , !

 

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by Tezaman

2 hours ago, SXT1KAROQ said:

the vertical adjusting (auto leveling) in the full LED Headlights is done automaticly in the LED assembly itself.

So auto-leveing the new LED Headlights should work.

 

Sensors are located on axle, not inside the headlight

 

It is like :

 

https://www.carsystems.eu/skoda-octavia-5e-auto-leveling-kit-2x-sensor-retrofit-bi-xenon-led-drl-corning-lights,id2379.html

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by irfant

@irfant something like this equipement ?

 

https://www.kufatec.com/en/all-products/komplett-set-automatische-leuchtweitenregulierung-alwr-fuer-skoda-karoq-nu7-43125

 

Sorry, but can you describe me more presicly where this sensor is located ? Where do I have to look / check to find that part ? From the Headlight : left ? right? side of the grill? side of the front wheel ? under the headlight ? Sorry, for the anoing questions ;-)

If you have had halogens then you do not have the sensor. It is only there if you have the higher spec lights, no need for it otherwise.

I have a horrible feeling you underestimate what is needed.

 

A new control unit for the lights, level and possibly acceleration sensors, wiring looms replaced, probably a new central electrics control unit. Also it's a legal requirement to have headlamp washers fitted with these lights, these are tested specifically at the MOT (UK), so must be fitted. So all that washer hardware, looms, piping, control unit New bumper with cutouts and washer jets, maybe bracketry.

 

Halogen level control needs removing, it does not work with LED units.

 

Then a major recoding exercise, provided your car has the correct firmware in all the control modules.

 

If you disturb the front assist radar during stripdown, it will cost £300-£400 (UK) to recalibrate it.

 

Maybe I'm being pessimistic, I do wish you the best of luck, but honestly I think its going to be an expensive project.

 

Spend €8 for an hours access to Erwin and download Workshop instructions, parts diagrams and much more, rather than work blind.

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by xman

Retrofitting LED headlights to a Karoq that left the factory with halogens is definitely not a simple plug-and-play operation.

 

As mentioned above the LED headlights rely on numerous sensors all over the car to operate correctly. A halogen-equipped Karoq will not have these sensors, on and around the suspension.

 

It is also unlikely that the electronic modules will have the capability to process the signals from the various sensors.

 

I admire your efforts, but fear you may be disappointed.

13 minutes ago, xman said:

Spend €8 for an hours access to Erwin and download Workshop instructions, parts diagrams and much more, rather than work blind.

 

^^ Speaking from experience, this is by far the best advice so far.

 

You need to check the wiring diagrams for both halogen and LED headlights as they will be different! Tthe self levelling is a legal requirement in the EU, pretty sure they will also need headlight washers as the headlights will be above 2000lm.

 

Even if you skip the headlight washers for now, please fit the levelling system! LED headlights are very bright and will cause excessive glare to other road users without it.

Dont be disappointed though .

 

Ask  KUFATEK if he can sell you instruction for retrofiring the lights