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Nice! Great to see traditional manufacturers put EV into motorsport. This is the final missing piece to convince the general public that you don't need ICE to have fun.

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5 hours ago, vrskeith said:

 

All these cars seem considerably flawed ie either range for what one is paying for or build quality.

 

I would expect the Model 3 and Model S to wipe the floor with these and have the only benefit of decent chargers to charge this large battery cars, but not great range compared to the 3 and S Teslas.  

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90k? 

 

for a car??

 

A 4 bed house in Andalucia gets my vote. And a 1500 euro banger for nipping to the supermarket.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

90k? 

for a car??

A 4 bed house in Andalucia gets my vote. And a 1500 euro banger for nipping to the supermarket.

 

Not many people actually buy cars these days do they, 15% of all cars that are driven off the forecourt.   EVs cost more upfront and then a lot less during ownership due to the lower fuel cost ie 3p a mile against 10p to 13p for an ICE car.   So it is comparing the all up costs, per month or whatever period.

 

Can be very difficult as many of us get a car allowance, which does effect whether one chooses EV or ICE, and then not unusual to have a fuel card.  The combined cost of my car allowance and fuel cars is well over £1100 a month, as a cost to the company and as a taxable BIK to me.   The whole premise needs to change and not only company car tax as is changing soon on EVs. 

 

Combining car allowance and fuel card to one monthly payment equivalent of around £1k per month, and making it non-taxable if spent on an EV lease, would probably persuade me to get a Tesla EV or similar when there is something else as good as a Model 3 or S.  

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On 26/10/2019 at 14:46, vrskeith said:

 

 

The first two comments on that video. How creepy. 

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On 22/09/2019 at 21:15, vrskeith said:

 

 

"54.3kWh under-floor battery offering a claimed range of around 250 miles"

Nice! Have Toyota done it and overtook Tesla Model 3 in efficiency with a crossover body style? 

 

Shame only 50kW charging speed though. Need both efficiency and charging speed (plus accessable charging infrastructure to match the speed)  to be a good EV. 

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There is no shortage in the UK being offered for sale at 1 year old and newer.

Certainly not like hens teeth or holding there value and that is just looking at the asking prices.

There are a good number out on Lease from Motability and they will be going into Auction & then onto forecourts at end of lease.

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Geeze...   I aim for 25 pence per mile ie the Treasury mileage rate, 45 pence per mile if one could keep under the 10K miles..  £2.61 per mile if one adds the fuel and that is without ans servicing costs which would add another few pence per mile, say roughly £2.70 servicing/tyres etc, ouch, to drive a little BMW fishbowl..     

 

BMW i3 S Prices and specification

Prices: List price new £37,670 List price now £37,840 Price as tested £43,805 Dealer value now £29,500 Private value now £28,000 Trade value now £22,750 (part exchange)  Contract hire rate £405 CO2 0g/km Service costs none Other costs none Electricity costs £258 Running costs inc fuel £258 Cost per mile 4.4 pence Depreciation £14,920 Cost per mile inc dep’n £2.57 

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There are Cheap as Chips for those leasing them.

So much so that 'Food delivery' companies are using fleets of them. Local Authorities, Health Boards, Social Work departments etc etc.

 

There will be just loads around for private buyers but then maybe a 'New from a Dealership' will be more appealing.

Like buying a Fridge Freezer, Tumble Drier, Washing machine, nice to get a new one rather than something cheap you might not trust.

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