After 3 Yeti L&K's I am now waiting for my Karoq Sportline to arrive at the dealers(it arrived at the UK port last week) ,and must say excitement is rising ! It is a 2.0 TSI 190ps , Velvet Red,with Park Assist,heated Windscreen,Canton sound system,Traffic Sign recognition,Columbus and a 3 year Care Connect package , which at face value could be a life saver for me as had voice box removed a couple of years ago (cancer) and find "talking" on a phone very difficult.This will also mean ditching my old beloved Nokia phone & graduating to an Iphone 7 ,which should be fun in itself !

We have also invested in a couple of Faraday pouches to protect against the Keyless scammers ,I did suggest to the dealer these should be supplied as a Skoda branded POS item and supplied FOC with every new car,but apparently they refuse to acknowledge there is a potential problem. I cannot understand at this stage what is so great about keyless entry & starting and feel it's a potential security weakness which is getting increased scrutiny from the insurance companies & could well lead to increased premiums in the future.

When we first ordered back in March was very concerned if we had left without a Brexit deal then were facing a potential 10.4% surcharge (the import tariff) on the VAT element of selling price ,but I told the dealer would only accept a max.surcharge of £350 ,and put this in the T&C's before signing the order. If they had tried applying the full import tax tariff would have cancelled the order & started looking at new UK built car. While we have managed to avoid this issue it is worth bearing in mind for people looking to order soon with a post October 31st.delivery date.

Will report back on impressions compared with my beloved Yeti ,after first month or so of driving.

Nice choice and metallic red is a favourite of mine, no wonder you're excited.

 

Given the problems with the 1.5 I would have considered one but don't want a panoramic roof so have gone elsewhere. 

An excellent choice of colour. 

2 hours ago, xocognac said:

We have also invested in a couple of Faraday pouches to protect against the Keyless scammers ,I did suggest to the dealer these should be supplied as a Skoda branded POS item and supplied FOC with every new car,but apparently they refuse to acknowledge there is a potential problem. I cannot understand at this stage what is so great about keyless entry & starting and feel it's a potential security weakness which is getting increased scrutiny from the insurance companies & could well lead to increased premiums in the future.

 

Faraday pouches are OK if you want belt and braces, but Skoda has already provided a means to deactivate kessy - by locking the door using the key and touching the handle button within 5 seconds; this is what I do when leaving the car on the drive overnight. It's probably less bother than looking around for your Faraday pouch.

Weirdly, although Skoda say there is no problem, from MY20 Karoqs will be getting Kessy keyfobs with motion sensors in them. So there is no issue, but they've fixed it anyway! On my Superb i use the same trick as above, deactivating the Kessy by closing with the fob and touching the door sensor. T'missus's Karoq is going to be MY20 so we'll not need to bother with that when it turns up, hopefully in September.

1 hour ago, edwards said:

 T'missus's Karoq is going to be MY20 so we'll not need to bother with that when it turns up, hopefully in September.

 

When I deactivate kessy by the method outlined above, I can test it by  putting the key in my pocket, and trying to open the door by pulling the handle. When you go indoors with your motion-sensing keyfob and drop it in the kitchen drawer - how do you know that kessy is truly deactivated? Can you test it? Or, just to be safe ........... do you place it in a Faraday pouch?

14 minutes ago, StEdmund said:

 

When I deactivate kessy by the method outlined above, I can test it by  putting the key in my pocket, and trying to open the door by pulling the handle. When you go indoors with your motion-sensing keyfob and drop it in the kitchen drawer - how do you know that kessy is truly deactivated? Can you test it? Or, just to be safe ........... do you place it in a Faraday pouch?

 

I hadn't thought about it, but I guess if you put it next to the car, within normal keyless range, and then keep the key still until the motion sensor times the signal out, the door shouldn't open. I don't know how long the time delay is for the motion sensor to say 'not moving' and turn the signal off, or indeed if the key 'knows' it is in proximity to the car and won't time out in this situation, but I guess when we have it I can have a play.

 

Our keys normally go in a tin box in the drawer anyway so its probably a non-issue at home.

 

If the car isn't on the drive in the morning, ring up your insurance company and ask them to get you another one.

The topic of kessy/deactivating kessy/tin-boxes/metal foil has been discussed to death in many previous threads, e.g. this one ...

 

My advice is to check your tin-box out ..... mine was next to useless. A tin-box might stop your keys from wandering ....... but the signal goes where it likes. On the other hand.......if you can face the time/trouble/expense, wrapping your keys in kitchen foil works a treat. 😀

When I visited my sister up in the midlands we put the keys in a tin box next to the car and the door unlocked. I had a Faraday pouch that uses a metal mesh fabric and the key did not work. Depending on the size of the tin, the material and the position of the key in the tin the key it might work OK. I didn't realise current cars could deactivate KESSY. Note to self, read the complete manual. Belt and braces I'll keep using the Faraday pouch regardless as I do not want to see an empty space where my Karoq should be.

 

Hi, I have been hovering over the 'order' button for a 190 DSG on Drive the Deal for a while now. Did you drive the Sportline before ordering? I have driven the 1.5 SEL DSG recently and really liked it so am assuming I will love a 190 but a bit concerned about the harder ride and 19" wheels? Any views ?

You should definitely drive one, the bigger wheels divide opinion, some say they notice no or little difference, others say they can instantly recognise the much firm and less forgiving ride.

On ‎14‎/‎06‎/‎2019 at 19:45, Hairball said:

When I visited my sister up in the midlands we put the keys in a tin box next to the car and the door unlocked. I had a Faraday pouch that uses a metal mesh fabric and the key did not work. Depending on the size of the tin, the material and the position of the key in the tin the key it might work OK. I didn't realise current cars could deactivate KESSY. Note to self, read the complete manual. Belt and braces I'll keep using the Faraday pouch regardless as I do not want to see an empty space where my Karoq should be.

 

What a palaver.

7 hours ago, silver1011 said:

You should definitely drive one, the bigger wheels divide opinion, some say they notice no or little difference, others say they can instantly recognise the much firm and less forgiving ride.

Sure, Ok. Drive the deal and Carwow quotes only up to the end of June. Not sure why but will need to get a move on. Cheers

What delivery time were you quoted ? How long is the wait !!

It varies by trim, engine, gearbox and factory options, but the average time for a factory build is between 12-16 weeks.

 

We're also getting close to  the summer factory shutdown period, which is usually when the next years model changes are introduced. Both of these can delay factory build times.

 

If you go for a common specification then chances are there will be a car already built and waiting in a compound somewhere, making delivery much quicker.

 

Your dealer will be able to advise.

Update ,as I write we are still waiting for our new Sportline to be delivered to the Norwich dealers which is now almost 3 weeks from when was advised it had arrived at the UK port,and while the dealers claim to be chasing things along suspect all the power over transport lies with Skoda ,the brand owner.Not sure what this tells us ,either the transporter simply cannot cope with demand for it's services or conversly sales are so bad they are still  trying to compile a full load to Eastern England,who knows,  we are just hoping delivery will be in the next few days ,which will give a total lead time of 16 weeks , including delay caused by WLTP testing. The dealer is also concerned we collect & pay before end of month as our car has been included in their June numbers.

 

In answer to an earlier post ,no we did not take it for a test drive which for a few reasons did not seem that important to tell the truth,firstly the Karoq had won awards ,just like the Yeti it had replaced & as we had owned 3 of these ,plus 3 Octavia's before that had no concerns over the quality etc.of the finished Skoda product.With the specific Sportline variant as soon as we sat in it at the dealers it was a love at first sight moment ,along the lines " when can we get one of these on our drive "! ! ,with regard to the 19" alloys & handling ,have allways had our tyre pressures over the years at the top end of the spectrum because enjoy road feedback & handling this gives ,so a potential firm ride holds no terrors.

 

Just a further thought on the Kessy issue ,is it my imagination or am I seeing more parked cars fitted with steering wheel lock covers ?

 

Finally,and this is probably an age thing , after researching care connect etc.,feel we are now reaching a major crossroads with car developement,not only regarding the fossil fuel issues but generally the amout of tech which is being loaded into even quite basic models.I do worry about the increased surveillance this gives to the multi nationals along the Google,Facebook big data  examples ,and do we really want a computer controlling all our day to driving as well to the point where we totally rely on it to get from A to B.At this stage the boyhood dream of owning a Super Car goes right the window. Don't get me wrong IT has brought major benifits to motoring but it just seems as the dividing line between a human supported by software as opposed to its total control is becoming increasingly blurred.

 

 

 

 

On 25/06/2019 at 12:09, xocognac said:

Update ,as I write we are still waiting for our new Sportline to be delivered to the Norwich dealers which is now almost 3 weeks from when was advised it had arrived at the UK port,and while the dealers claim to be chasing things along suspect all the power over transport lies with Skoda ,the brand owner.Not sure what this tells us ,either the transporter simply cannot cope with demand for it's services or conversly sales are so bad they are still  trying to compile a full load to Eastern England,who knows,  we are just hoping delivery will be in the next few days ,which will give a total lead time of 16 weeks , including delay caused by WLTP testing. The dealer is also concerned we collect & pay before end of month as our car has been included in their June numbers.

 

In answer to an earlier post ,no we did not take it for a test drive which for a few reasons did not seem that important to tell the truth,firstly the Karoq had won awards ,just like the Yeti it had replaced & as we had owned 3 of these ,plus 3 Octavia's before that had no concerns over the quality etc.of the finished Skoda product.With the specific Sportline variant as soon as we sat in it at the dealers it was a love at first sight moment ,along the lines " when can we get one of these on our drive "! ! ,with regard to the 19" alloys & handling ,have allways had our tyre pressures over the years at the top end of the spectrum because enjoy road feedback & handling this gives ,so a potential firm ride holds no terrors.

 

Just a further thought on the Kessy issue ,is it my imagination or am I seeing more parked cars fitted with steering wheel lock covers ?

 

Finally,and this is probably an age thing , after researching care connect etc.,feel we are now reaching a major crossroads with car developement,not only regarding the fossil fuel issues but generally the amout of tech which is being loaded into even quite basic models.I do worry about the increased surveillance this gives to the multi nationals along the Google,Facebook big data  examples ,and do we really want a computer controlling all our day to driving as well to the point where we totally rely on it to get from A to B.At this stage the boyhood dream of owning a Super Car goes right the window. Don't get me wrong IT has brought major benifits to motoring but it just seems as the dividing line between a human supported by software as opposed to its total control is becoming increasingly blurred.

 

 

 

 

 

Kessy is easy to disable on the Karoq. 

 

Tom