I bought my Karoq 2.0 TDi 4x4 Scout back in April and ever since I took delivery it has suffered from what can only be described a violent stalling , especially in 1 st from a standstill but also sometimes in 2nd if already in motion. There are many similar problems with the TSi 1.5 but as has been pointed out that is a completely different drive train so I thought I would set up a separate thread purely for the 2 ltr car. This can be doing the drive train no good at all and I dread to think what is being held in store. There have been in excess of 20,000 entries in the thread "1,5 tsi petrol engines problems" which as has been pointed out is a different system entirely but owners are experiencing similar symptoms. I believe it is the fault of two bits of firmware fighting for dominance and my best guess is the 'hold' facility versus the 'stop/start' function especially when if you turn off the 'stop/start' feature the problem as good as disappears. If you chose the SE car the brochure says you can't have the 'stop/start' fitted. Can anyone out there with a SE variant confirm they don't get stalling. The dealership are particularly unhelpful claiming it is my driving style that is at fault but I find that hard to believe especially when my so called style must change whenever I press the button to turn 'stop/start' off or on.

Sorry, but yours is the first diesel I’ve heard of on here and the Kodiaq forum as having problems. 

There were a few in the Yeti section/ forum that had similar experiences, but the consensus was that they were used to driving old school diesels and once  they got used to the characteristics of modern diesel engines things improved.

1 hour ago, keithh44 said:

I bought my Karoq 2.0 TDi 4x4 Scout back in April and ever since I took delivery it has suffered from what can only be described a violent stalling , especially in 1 st from a standstill but also sometimes in 2nd if already in motion. There are many similar problems with the TSi 1.5 but as has been pointed out that is a completely different drive train so I thought I would set up a separate thread purely for the 2 ltr car. This can be doing the drive train no good at all and I dread to think what is being held in store. There have been in excess of 20,000 entries in the thread "1,5 tsi petrol engines problems" which as has been pointed out is a different system entirely but owners are experiencing similar symptoms. I believe it is the fault of two bits of firmware fighting for dominance and my best guess is the 'hold' facility versus the 'stop/start' function especially when if you turn off the 'stop/start' feature the problem as good as disappears. If you chose the SE car the brochure says you can't have the 'stop/start' fitted. Can anyone out there with a SE variant confirm they don't get stalling. The dealership are particularly unhelpful claiming it is my driving style that is at fault but I find that hard to believe especially when my so called style must change whenever I press the button to turn 'stop/start' off or on.

I think I now what your on about ,for me it’s when the engine decides to auto stop just as your slowing down around 5 mph and you decide to accelerate so it has to re start and engage gear or your to quick to pull away when sitting with auto hold on engine of and although still in D the gear box will select N ,it does get confused sometimes ,I would say you will get used to it and find little tweaks like moving the wheel to start the engine or pressing the brake before you pull away ,if like me my wife uses the car it will learn individual driving styles so some times feels different after my wife drives it for a few days 

I forgot to say it is a manual

These types of topic can be difficult, a balance between there being a genuine problem, or as mentioned, some 'new car' driving style adjustment needed.

 

Modern diesels are becoming much more petrol-like in their driving characteristics, especially when setting off, so much so anti-stall software is regularly utilised on diesel engines these days.

 

Without wanting to cause offence, and blame you, there could of course be a real issue with your car, what was your previous car?

I'm really surprised at this. Manual diesels should have no problem pulling away at very low revs, including modern diesels. That's why I liked them so much, they suited my lazy driving style perfectly.

DO NOT let the dealer fob you off with statements like "it's your driving style". There is obviously something very wrong with your car and it could be a safety issue, should it happen when you are pulling out into fast moving traffic.

How long can dealers keep telling people they don't know how to drive !!!

5 hours ago, patrolman said:

I think I now what your on about ,for me it’s when the engine decides to auto stop just as your slowing down around 5 mph and you decide to accelerate so it has to re start and engage gear or your to quick to pull away when sitting with auto hold on engine of and although still in D the gear box will select N ,it does get confused sometimes ,I would say you will get used to it and find little tweaks like moving the wheel to start the engine or pressing the brake before you pull away ,if like me my wife uses the car it will learn individual driving styles so some times feels different after my wife drives it for a few days 

 

I can't say I've ever had Autostop activate on a VAG car unless it has been completely stationary. And in a manual car you also have to be in neutral and foot off the clutch for it to cut in. And in the DSG equipped vehicles I've driven you have to be in Park and foot on the brake pedal. 

 

@keithh44, I don't think you'll find an SE model with 2.0TDi 4x4 drive train so a comparison wouldn't be possible. I'm happy to be proven wrong though. I have the same vehicle and so far have not encountered this problem. Mine has only done 1900ish miles though.

Edited 30 July, 20196 yr by HeavyMetalRich
Mention corrected

Would you be prepared to carry out a little experiment and that is use your car with Autostop switched off for a week and then repeat for a week with it switched on and see if there is any perceptible difference in the in the ocurrance of stalling

34 minutes ago, HeavyMetalRich said:

 

I can't say I've ever had Autostop activate on a VAG car unless it has been completely stationary. And in a manual car you also have to be in neutral and foot off the clutch for it to cut in. And in the DSG equipped vehicles I've driven you have to be in Park and foot on the brake pedal. 

 

@keithh44, I don't think you'll find an SE model with 2.0TDi 4x4 drive train so a comparison wouldn't be possible. I'm happy to be proven wrong though. I have the same vehicle and so far have not encountered this problem. Mine has only done 1900ish miles though.

here’s a link to a stop start thread , it would appear to be a feature of the latest stop start system 

8 minutes ago, patrolman said:

here’s a link to a stop start thread , it would appear to be a feature of the latest stop start system 

 

Thanks for pointing that out. It would appear that all those vehicles mentioned in that thread are DSG. If that were my car, the aggressiveness of the stop/start would be adjusted and if that's not possible then switched off.

 

@keithh44,unfortunately I don't drive my car everyday, weekends only really. Also I've never managed to stall it in the circumstances you described. I've only stalled it twice slowing from speed and not down shifting (or dipping the clutch at least) soon enough.

1 minute ago, HeavyMetalRich said:

 

Thanks for pointing that out. It would appear that all those vehicles mentioned in that thread are DSG. If that were my car, the aggressiveness of the stop/start would be adjusted and if that's not possible then switched off.

 

@keithh44,unfortunately I don't drive my car everyday, weekends only really. Also I've never managed to stall it in the circumstances you described. I've only stalled it twice slowing from speed and not down shifting (or dipping the clutch at least) soon enough.

I used to think it was odd and re started at odd times ,but you do learn how to cope with it ,this is my first long term auto and I’m never going manual again for our main vehicle 

Karoq 2.0 SEL 4x4 DSG

 

For 12 months this car has switched to idle when in Drive every now and then.  It has been back to Skoda in October after it did it twice, no fault found.  Another 3 times back in November and then again May. No fault found.  It is scary when it does it on a roundabout or in busy traffic, or at the lights.  Back in Skoda now, been there a fortnight no fault found.  I have told them I do not want the car back and I want a replacement.  We wait and see.  It has done this 12 times in a year.

On 19/09/2019 at 15:00, Channel said:

Karoq 2.0 SEL 4x4 DSG

 

For 12 months this car has switched to idle when in Drive every now and then.  It has been back to Skoda in October after it did it twice, no fault found.  Another 3 times back in November and then again May. No fault found.  It is scary when it does it on a roundabout or in busy traffic, or at the lights.  Back in Skoda now, been there a fortnight no fault found.  I have told them I do not want the car back and I want a replacement.  We wait and see.  It has done this 12 times in a year.

 

I am sure you have thought about this, but what you are describing is the way the DSG operates in Economy drive mode (lifting off when approaching a roundabout or lights will drop it into idle if you are not applying the breaks). If you haven't deliberately selected this (and you can do this by pressing the off road button twice, incidentally) then maybe the fault lies in the way the drive mode is selected - intermittent selection, perhaps. 

 

On the OP question - I did manage to stall my Yeti a few times and that was my first diesel after many years of petrol. Once I had adapted to the car I had no problems (and I genuinely believe it was me, not the car). Of course, with high compression of a diesel, the engine stops dead making it a much more violent occurrence.

Never drive it  economy mode.  Skoda Assist say there is a fault but they cannot replicate the problem at the garage.  One interesting thing that did happen, it went to idle in my driveway and as I was about to take into a field pressed the off road button the engine stopped and restarted when pressed again. This had no effect on the car, still at idle

old thread but i have a 1.6 diesel dsg.   It stalls in a similar way regardless if start stop is on or off.  I have to carryout a manual restart.   However, the car does not start and leaves me stranded at traffic lights, junctions etc.   It sounds and looks like no fuel is getting to the engine.  After a few minutes the engineer eventually fires!

I had this problem on a MK1 Fabia VRS and several other manual skoda models - it comes as a bit of a shock when it happens.

 

It seemed to occur if the revs drop to low and is an engine control feature

>>>It seemed to occur if the revs drop to low and is an engine control feature

That is what Skoda told me yesterday...if the engine goes below 900 rpm it will shut down to protect itself?????????

 

I have the 2.0 D  manual 4x4 and always thought it was me, I have never had a diesel  stall so much. (previous Skoda Superb 2.0 D  was ace)  I ALWAYS turn off the stop start once its running.  Its seems worse if you have dropped from 3rd to 2nd, let the clutch up and.....it stops!!   Then the wife says she is having the same problems.

 

Got rid of the 1.5TSI due to its software drive ability issues...looks like this one might be going!

@Rankaclank

Who at Skoda UK or Skoda CZ told you that?    Best get that in writing from them, with their name, job title and relevant qualifications.

 

So no 'Anti stall' with your vehicle then!