Hello all,

Although I dont have alloys I thought you all might be interested in the following. I recently changed the pads on both my vehicles to ebc greenstuff, One vehicle has done 200miles and the wheels have a very light dusting, hardly noticeable, The other has done over a 1000 miles after the wheels where thoroughly jet washed. The plastic trims ar vitually spotless!!!! The other good thing is the stopping power is much improved, from cold they are as good as stock, but once warmed up they have a great feel, lots of feedback and very progressive with little snatch. The wife loves them on her auto, she says it now stops in the same time zone! The TDi stops on a sixpence, and does not nose dive as much. So you get 2 benefits for the price of one.

Greenstuff are OK on small cars like a Fabia but next to useless on an Octavia and absolutely useless on anything if you really use them hard. They melt

Steve

Dont quote me on this Steve but dont they recommend red stuff for heavy duty street and light track use? But I'm not sure how dust free these are.......

I melted redstuff's on my Puma on a trackday. They were crap when they were cold too.

The only goodthing about any EBC pad is their lack of dust.

Steve

Cheers for the tips Steve! When I'm batting down the M40 I will watch for the melt!!!!!

:p

I find it quite strange when people say that the greenstuff pads don't produce much dust.

My last car had them fitted and the dust was terrible from them. They did have quite a good "bite" feel to them though.

DS2500s are something else though - if noisy! :eyecrazy:

do you still have the imprint of my face on the windsreen of your furbie after the derby run matt?

i want to get a set of DS2500 however cant see SWMBO agreeing though :(

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agree on EBC's - are awful!!

If you think DSC2500's are noisy \ bite hard try 3000's!!

(3000's are *very* dusty tho)

As a newish member, you people are now beginning to worry me. With the exception of track work, what exactly are you doing to make Greenstuffs turn to Moltenstuffs? I've had some fitted to my Oct vRS with grooved/part drilled discs as a brake upgrade because of a sense of OE brake fade espically during short notice stopping at motorway speeds. The new set up has (to date) overcome these moments of anxiety. I'm not sure however (on congested South East Roads) that I shall be reaching brake pad melting point. So hands up who has had a pants-filling moment on public roads because OE or uprated brakes suppassed their physical limitations? (As opposed to being bleeding stupid and arriving at a direction-changing obstacle faster than really appropriate - though I confess this has nearly been me following a 911 on a super little A road in West Sussex, but that was chassis limitations rather than brakes!)

Finally dust is much reduced see picture (not caplier not cleaned in at least 2K)

Finally, good tip - black wheels hide brake dust

Agree on the greenstuff, very little dust. However, use them in anger and they do literally melt :( This to me is not a "good thing" I had more fade from them than the standard pads, which was wierd.

Me, I'll stick to my DS3000 and DS2500 combo thanks

So hands up who has had a pants-filling moment on public roads because OE or uprated brakes suppassed their physical limitations?

Me, but not in my car, and only because a certain un-named member decided to give me a demo of his remap on cold brakes heading up a surprisingly short slip-road just outside Chirk on the National weekend

I've found the standard brakes to be more than capable, as long as you don't hammer them from cold.

Thats one thing with the DS3000s, they really do need warming. Once warm, OMG, you really do stop. Make the DS2500s feel lacking in the friction department, they are evil They are also noisy and dusty :(

do you still have the imprint of my face on the windsreen of your furbie after the derby run matt?

i want to get a set of DS2500 however cant see SWMBO agreeing though :(

she wont notice the pads - honest! :llol:

thats what you think matt! :(

re fading of OEM pads me in a welsh jaunt in my ex furbie following a couple of furbies with a clio behind me. did i mention the furbie infront of me has DS2500s?

big brown pants moment indeed!

I drive my Octy vRS pretty hard (considering I only drive on public roads) - I do a lot of overtaking and a lot of miles at high speed on twisty A, B and unclassified roads - and can honestly say I have never had any problems with the original brakes fading in the 19,000 miles that I've owned the car

IIRC the brake calipers and discs on the Octy vRS (apart from the colour) are exectly the same as the ones on the Golf GT TDi ? So pretty well tried and tested then .... :drive:

I don't doubt that there are mods that can be made that will improve braking performance further, but unless you're doing trackdays I'm not convinced it's worthwhile. Non vRS owners of course will probably want to upgrade their brakes if they're going to drive like nutters !

I drive my Octy vRS pretty hard (considering I only drive on public roads) - I do a lot of overtaking and a lot of miles at high speed on twisty A' date=' B and unclassified roads - and can honestly say I have never had any problems with the original brakes fading in the 19,000 miles that I've owned the car

IIRC the brake calipers and discs on the Octy vRS (apart from the colour) are exectly the same as the ones on the Golf GT TDi ? So pretty well tried and tested then .... :drive:

I don't doubt that there are mods that can be made that will improve braking performance further, but unless you're doing trackdays I'm not convinced it's worthwhile. Non vRS owners of course will probably want to upgrade their brakes if they're going to drive like nutters ! [/quote']

You

Must Try Harder (a bit like me old school reports !)

Will give that 100-0 mph slip road experience a try on the way home tonight !

to get interesting brake fade try 140-0 on a slip road in a vectra sri brown pants moment indeed :shocked:

to get interesting brake fade try 140-0 on a slip road in a vectra sri brown pants moment indeed :shocked:

Definatly would be 140 in an SRI been believing the speedo again havent you get these all the time as hire cars and they are abismal cars (crashed one allready, complete writeoff!)

Just a quick question, what's the best/easiest way to clean the callipers (hopefully without taking the wheels off!)

Have to agree the OEM brakes on the RS definately suffer from fade after not much abuse. Don't get me wrong I think the brakes are pretty good but could be better. Think I'll definately upgrade to 2500s when mine are about shagged and budget allowing will probably upgrade to cross-drilled discs aswell.

Just a quick question, what's the best/easiest way to clean the callipers (hopefully without taking the wheels off!)

I use wonderwheels and jam the brush throught the spokes. Gets the calipers lovely again.

to get interesting brake fade try 140-0 on a slip road in a vectra sri brown pants moment indeed :shocked:

You wouldn't get 140 out of a Vectra SRi if you drove it off the side of the Empire State Building

My old Astra Sport would struggle to top 130 and it used to leave Vectras for dead, including the SRi V6

GSi's are a different matter altogether

Anyone tried a wheel brush from..........Oh sorry am I off topic.

140, you boys.

Des

140 never! wouldnt do that,besides my MR2 only manages 138

But at 120ish in the Vectra it's not a happy car (any of them, including the GSi, oh and while I'm there, the Astra GSi is awfull, no feeling in the steering at all, lots of grip but no feeling!), anyhow, I had an accident in the Vectra involving a head on 30ish crash headlong into a ditch (after the tail clipped a tree stump) and not one of the 10 airbags in the car deployed.

I would not recomend anyone to drive at speed in a Vauxhall!