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Hello all, I have recently had my Kodiaq serviced at the dealership I bought it from in November 2017, I have covered 17000 miles and it was its second service, during the service I received the email video with the technician telling me I needed to renew the rear disks because of scoring, I told them not to renew, the job would have cost £320.00 the rear disc pads have 8mm on them

 

I can’t remember having to renew discs with so little mileage on the clock, I consider myself a careful user of the brakes, just wondered what other peoples experience of renewing Discs were

Although our Karoq is lighter than your Kodiaq it recently had it's first service at 18,700 miles and rear discs/pads were in great shape as I could see from the video that is sent to my phone these days. Does your dealership not offer the same service. Unless there is a stone trapped between the pad and a disc can't see how they could be that worn as to need replacing after 2 years and your mileage particularly with the amount of pad you have left. Think they may be trying to fleece you for some extra cash personally.:nod:

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Thanks for your reply, when I run my finger over the discs I can feel a slight scoring on both rear discs compared to the front ones, as it’s on  both discs I would think it is unlikely to be a trapped stone, a small independent garage near me had a quick look and said nothing to worry about and have another look at the next service, incidentally I’ve seen a post somewhere on the forum that the rear discs were replaced at the first service 10000 miles under warranty , wouldn’t have thought it was a warranty job

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2 minutes ago, Jimbobby12 said:

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9 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Although our Karoq is lighter than your Kodiaq it recently had it's first service at 18,700 miles and rear discs/pads were in great shape as I could see from the video that is sent to my phone these days. Does your dealership not offer the same service. Unless there is a stone trapped between the pad and a disc can't see how they could be that worn as to need replacing after 2 years and your mileage particularly with the amount of pad you have left. Think they may be trying to fleece you for some extra cash personally.:nod:

 

Just wondered shy, what is your service interval, noticed that your first service was at 18700, my Kodiaq Diesel is10000 or 1 year whichever is the sooner 

2 minutes ago, Jimbobby12 said:

 

 

Just wondered shy, what is your service interval, noticed that your first service was at 18700, my Kodiaq Diesel is10000 or 1 year whichever is the sooner 

We are on variable car new on 26/01/2018 serviced according to the onboard computer at 30/09/2019. 2nd service which is free like the first one will be done before 1st M.O.T. January 2021 along with renew the brake fluid.:thumbup:

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20 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

We are on variable car new on 26/01/2018 serviced according to the onboard computer at 30/09/2019. 2nd service which is free like the first one will be done before 1st M.O.T. January 2021 along with renew the brake fluid.:thumbup:


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Do you have any photos?

 

Maybe the dealer being 'Overly Cautious' and trying to extract some cash..

 

This is a common problem with the Superb III - have a search on that forum and you'll find numerous reports of this that seem to tie back to nothing more than really poor quality OEM disks.

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1 hour ago, SimonAudi said:

Do you have any photos?

 

Maybe the dealer being 'Overly Cautious' and trying to extract some cash..

 


This is back and front Simon, it’s a bit difficult to tell off this, but as you can see there is a difference between back & front Discs

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47 minutes ago, CheshireBumpkin said:

This is a common problem with the Superb III - have a search on that forum and you'll find numerous reports of this that seem to tie back to nothing more than really poor quality OEM disks.


I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there Cheshire, if I could find evidence of these discs failing on a good few low mileage cars perhaps a warranty claim could be submitted ?

I would say you more than likely have an issue that the rear brakes are not working as well as they should - so not clearing the surface rust...

 

Or that you hardly brake?

 

But unless you feel any judder during breaking should be no issue..

 

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3 minutes ago, SimonAudi said:

I would say you more than likely have an issue that the rear brakes are not working as well as they should - so not clearing the surface rust...

 

Or that you hardly brake?

 

But unless you feel any judder during breaking should be no issue..

 


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I’ve had 2 sets of rear discs and pads fitted under warranty. I think the current shiny 3rd will outlast my time with this car.

 

ps - as above, go and give your brakes a good hammering and see if they polish up to an even looking finish. Bakes don’t like “doing nothing”.

 

 

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4 hours ago, BoxerBoy said:

 

 

I’ve had 2 sets of rear discs and pads fitted under warranty. I think the current shiny 3rd will outlast my time with this car.

 

ps - as above, go and give your brakes a good hammering and see if they polish up to an even looking finish. Bakes don’t like “doing nothing”.

 

 

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hi Boxerboy, there is obviously a problem with the Discs which Skoda will not accept responsibility with so rather that waste my time contacting skoda I will do what I normally do and change my car between 3 and 4 years, I suspect my discs and pads will last this long about 30000 miles, I will have the third service and MOT at a small independent garage.

 

 

Your discs look fine (not perfect by any means but acceptable none the less). 

If you are really bothered about it a decent machine shop would skim them for you, by the look of them they wouldn't need much taken off to clean them up. 

Many garages try that gouging trick to get some extra money out of you. AC do it on every service "sorry to tell you Sir but can you please bend over so we can fleece you for some new brakes" (or tyres is another good one that they try often) to replace your old ones that there's nothing much wrong with. 

Maybe use your brakes abit more frequently/harder, helps keep them clean. A good way to do this is instead of gradually easing down from 60/70mph to town limits is to smartly bring the cars speed down by using the brakes. As has already been said, modern disc brakes need to be used often. 

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On 02/10/2019 at 09:38, Jimbobby12 said:

I consider myself a careful user of the brakes.

 

This can be part of the problem, the brake bias favours the front, so the front discs are kept clean. The rears less so, and as a result corrosion can quickly build up, especially if you're gentle on the brakes.

 

Find a quiet road, make sure there is no one around and perform a couple of hard stops from 60mph. The brake pads themselves will do a good job of removing the corrosion.

 

There are various explanations for premature brake wear, some cite the auto-hold feature, electronic parking brake and ACC being contributory factors, others blame the poor quality discs themselves. I just make sure I get the brakes nice and hot every so often and have never had any issues, including with our current Kodiaq, and I'm on my 5th Skoda.

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42 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

This can be part of the problem, the brake bias favours the front, so the front discs are kept clean. The rears less so, and as a result corrosion can quickly build up, especially if you're gentle on the brakes.

 

Find a quiet road, make sure there is no one around and perform a couple of hard stops from 60mph. The brake pads themselves will do a good job of removing the corrosion.

 

There are various explanations for premature brake wear, some cite the auto-hold feature, electronic parking brake and ACC being contributory factors, others blame the poor quality discs themselves. I just make sure I get the brakes nice and hot every so often and have never had any issues, including with our current Kodiaq, and I'm on my 5th Skoda.

 

thanks Silver, some food for thought there 

The rear disks on my 2 year old 22,000 mile Kodiaq, look terrible. Really deep pitting and scoring, never had this on any other car ever. I'll try to get them replaced under warranty but if I have to pay for new disks I won't be buying the Skoda parts as they're clearly not good quality.

3 hours ago, Valkyrie said:

The rear disks on my 2 year old 22,000 mile Kodiaq, look terrible. Really deep pitting and scoring, never had this on any other car ever. I'll try to get them replaced under warranty but if I have to pay for new disks I won't be buying the Skoda parts as they're clearly not good quality.

 

My experience suggests that Skoda eventually changed the rear pad material as the original spec was clearly a poor match for the discs.  My current set look good after 1,500 miles.

 

Your description matches exactly what I found (twice).

 

I wouldn't be surprised if some little purchasing person deep in the VAG organisation simply found a batch of cheap and nasty pads somewhere and reckoned that they could win a watch by saving a few pennies. Then the truth emerges that the pads are rubbish and VAG go buy elsewhere.

 

 

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