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Octavia 3 2020 model Start/Stop issue

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I want to see iff there are more people here who do some codings have the same issue on the Octavia 3 Model 2020.

 

The tested cars they where somewhere 1-10-2019 and up

 

These have the bad habbed to self restore the Start/Stop function when you coded . Some will directly restore it and some does it after a sleep cycle

 

 Also have this problem on the new Kodiaq.

 

Are there more here who have the same experience and how to solves this. U tryed al lot off tweaks but start/stop stil keeps working.

Edited by Antera

Another WLTP consequence?

Didn't someone once link to a piece of hardware that remembered the Start Stop setting On/Off and maintained it the next time the car started ?

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I now this peace is there but I want to code this and not mess with the wiring from my customers cars 🙂

35 minutes ago, Antera said:

I now this peace is there but I want to code this and not mess with the wiring from my customers cars 🙂

No coding has been found that remembers the start/stop on any MQB platform car, additional hardware is the only option for start/stop memory.

 

The only other options are to completely disable start/stop by the voltage method, or disable battery management by removing the sense wire.

 

If you don't want to make hardware changes, then your customer will have to live with the car as it is - which sucks but blame VAG.

20 minutes ago, Phil245 said:

That's not quite the same - the Kufactec device requires the dongle to be plugged in every time you want to change the default state of start/stop

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  • The function is not permanently deactivated, but can be reactivated with the dongle at any time

 

but the device on eBay is permanently wired in and provides start/stop memory - so you can have start/stop default to off when you are driving but return it to 'normal' operation for other drivers or when having the car serviced.

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After inserting this module remembers the electronics for starting your vehicle automatically the last setting of the start-stop system (either ON or OFF) and the vehicle automatically switches back to this mode.

 

 

Having said that the Kufatec dongle could be what OP is looking for.

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The dongle does what we do with vcds on the 2019 and younger cars. The 2020 cars it have no effect

Did you find any other issues in 2020 Octavia (other non working coding)? My colleague’s new car going to arrive on the next monday, and he asked me to set some features...

I personally can't see why there is such hate for Start/Stop. I have no problems with it and if I am in slow moving traffic I just temporarily disable it. What's so difficult or hard about that?

 

The positive side of it is that the engine is not running needlessly, pumping out the pollution which harms us all and wasting fuel, when I am stopped at traffic lights for a minute or so.

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23 hours ago, Zippair said:

Did you find any other issues in 2020 Octavia (other non working coding)? My colleague’s new car going to arrive on the next monday, and he asked me to set some features...

 

 

I did not found other issues YET. I'm still testing. 

 

 

8 hours ago, nickcoll said:

I personally can't see why there is such hate for Start/Stop. I have no problems with it and if I am in slow moving traffic I just temporarily disable it. What's so difficult or hard about that?

 

The positive side of it is that the engine is not running needlessly, pumping out the pollution which harms us all and wasting fuel, when I am stopped at traffic lights for a minute or so.

 

It is a option wich have no value.  You don't use less fuel and when almost stopping the car shuts off. And when you want to cross the crossing the car first needs to starts and that takes to long. Same story when parking the car

12 minutes ago, Antera said:

It is a option wich have no value.  You don't use less fuel and when almost stopping the car shuts off. And when you want to cross the crossing the car first needs to starts and that takes to long. Same story when parking the car

I see you are located in the Netherlands, and guess the traffic conditions there are different to what we have here in the UK. Personally I find that the stop-start is a feature worth having for much of the time, and when it's not helpful it can be easily disabled by a simple press of a conveniently located button. To make the most of this feature I always plan ahead for it when I am driving. If I am approaching a junction where I may need to make a quick getaway, I will press the button to disable stop-start before I come to a halt. If I am about to park I will do the same to prevent the engine from stopping when I am changing between forward and reverse. When the system is enabled and cuts the engine, it needs to be stopped for enough time to make a saving in fuel, as restarting after a short stop will use more fuel than idling. This is another scenario where it may be better to temporarily disable stop-start, and it is easy enough to just press that button.

 

On balance I find stop-start to be worth having given that it can be temporarily disabled very easily, but I can see that it would just be an irritation if the typical traffic conditions were not such as to make fuel savings available through stopping and starting.

 

3 hours ago, Antera said:

It is a option wich have no value.  You don't use less fuel and when almost stopping the car shuts off. And when you want to cross the crossing the car first needs to starts and that takes to long. Same story when parking the car

 

Sorry, but your experience does not match mine. I find it absolutely invaluable and like the fact that I am not pumping out pollution and using fuel unnecessarily when stopped at traffic lights. And I can always easily disable it on the rarer occasions when it is worth doing.

 

I have never experienced it cutting in when I am parking as the car never ends up out of gear with the clutch up for long enough - it is either in a forward gear or reverse until I switch the car off.

2 minutes ago, nickcoll said:

I have never experienced it cutting in when I am parking as the car never ends up out of gear with the clutch up for long enough - it is either in a forward gear or reverse until I switch the car off.

I guess this is because your car is manual and mine is DSG. Also I am wary of changing between forward and reverse too quickly so as not to stress the transmission.

 

 

It's very intrusive with the DSG. For my driving conditions I always turn it off when starting up. I turn it on if I think it's going to be of real benefit and not dangerous. 

Just recently I have found it does activate if I pull the handbrake on and put the DSG in N with my foot off the brake - it didn't do this on my previous Octy, and it's an improvement. 

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Try this option to keep off for a full tank off gas en tell me what the difference is with it always on. There is not much saving in normale traffic conditions.  😉

So much fuss over a feature that can be switched on or off so easily. I give up.

 

 

3 hours ago, OldBoyScout said:

So much fuss over a feature that can be switched on or off so easily. I give up.

 

 

 

People will always find something to moan about! I am even less looking forward now to having to change to a DSG from my lovely manual gearbox.

@Antera

Normal traffic depends which city or bridge crossing is taking hours to get through or across with lanes of traffic moving a little every now and again.

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