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5 hours ago, AlVal said:

That doesn't seem right to me, that's an antenna for mobile reception. 

 

At least in the UK Digital TV (Freeview) Frequencies are in the 470Mhz – 850Mhz range, so the aerial should v cover that band. What you've linked is not marketed as a TV aerial

Yes like i said i bought this for mobile instead of the oem.

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I went a different route, as I find the tv tuners fitted on most xars are not very good.

instead I download the programmes I want to watch onto an SSD drive and play that instead.

On 19/03/2021 at 10:24, Camarao69 said:

Ok the correct harness is this one
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPh1i19

Excellent, good work.. Have you figured where in the boot it gets mounted? 

On 20/03/2021 at 23:08, AlVal said:

Excellent, good work.. Have you figured where in the boot it gets mounted? 

It's under the passenger seat.

On 23/03/2021 at 00:20, Camarao69 said:

It's under the passenger seat.

I think i has wrong here it is in the under the motorist seat. Can any one that has TV Tuner confirm please ?

 

The Parts we need is (I'm almost sure):

 

Harness  -https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPh1i19 specify that it is for a Skoda Superb and the unit is under the driver seat.

TV Tuner - 8v0919191 

Bracket - 5g0919937

Bracket cover - 3q0963051

4 antennas - 3v5035577 A, C,  D, G one letter for each one

19 hours ago, Camarao69 said:

I think i has wrong here it is in the under the motorist seat. Can any one that has TV Tuner confirm please ?

 

The Parts we need is (I'm almost sure):

 

Harness  -https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPh1i19 specify that it is for a Skoda Superb and the unit is under the driver seat.

TV Tuner - 8v0919191 

Bracket - 5g0919937

Bracket cover - 3q0963051

4 antennas - 3v5035577 A, C,  D, G one letter for each one

I think the cover for the TV tuner is 5G0 972 136

I also know there are different letter variants of the TV tuner with a, b etc at the end of the part number. For different countries maybe? 

Also see here for the little screws etc. you need

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/rdw/golf+variant+4motion/golf/2016-746/0/035-35070/#2

I think in a right hand drive car the sound amplifier (if you have it) is under the passenger seat, and TV tuner under the driver seat. 

Do you think all 4x antennas are needed or is it just the right one for your country? 

 

4 hours ago, AlVal said:

I think the cover for the TV tuner is 5G0 972 136

I also know there are different letter variants of the TV tuner with a, b etc at the end of the part number. For different countries maybe? 

Also see here for the little screws etc. you need

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/rdw/golf+variant+4motion/golf/2016-746/0/035-35070/#2

I think in a right hand drive car the sound amplifier (if you have it) is under the passenger seat, and TV tuner under the driver seat. 

Do you think all 4x antennas are needed or is it just the right one for your country? 

 

Also your aerial amplifiers parts are wrong, they are for fm/dab, you already have them, they are not for dvb, for radio and dvb tv you need three:

 

4m0035225k, 4m0035225H, 4m0035225J

 

This is information coming from mib retrofit experts, not from me. I'll let you know how I get on. 

 

They also said to buy version "c" of the TV tuner because it is more stable, and also to take a look at this

 

https://www.drive2.ru/l/548204129177043627/

 

 

 

A - TV tuner -R78-

B - 12-pin connector, at wiring harness - T12b

C - 2-pin connector, at wiring harness - T2k

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11 hours ago, AlVal said:

Also your aerial amplifiers parts are wrong, they are for fm/dab, you already have them, they are not for dvb, for radio and dvb tv you need three:

 

4m0035225k, 4m0035225H, 4m0035225J

 

This is information coming from mib retrofit experts, not from me. I'll let you know how I get on. 

 

They also said to buy version "c" of the TV tuner because it is more stable, and also to take a look at this

 

https://www.drive2.ru/l/548204129177043627/

 

 

 

Hello i have been reading berryman posts too in drive2.

But if you go here its like etka and it never failde me but the image there in fact are for the amplifier.

https://ifinterface.com/page/page3.php?langid=1

Carprog2 > choose skoda superb 2016>  0 > 035 035

The parts are the ones i posted , but they could be wrong.

Also I 

14 hours ago, Camarao69 said:

Hello i have been reading berryman posts too in drive2.

But if you go here its like etka and it never failde me but the image there in fact are for the amplifier.

https://ifinterface.com/page/page3.php?langid=1

Carprog2 > choose skoda superb 2016>  0 > 035 035

The parts are the ones i posted , but they could be wrong.

I already have my interior trim removed while fitting facelift rear lights, so I took a look, these are already in the bootlid of my car which doesn't have tv tuner

 

 

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Edited by AlVal

Hello for the TV the final letter has to be C, G, D

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I have bought 8v0919191B by mistake , but i think i has lucky as the hardware is the same as C, so just a  firmware upgrade needed

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On 25/03/2021 at 06:14, AlVal said:

I think the cover for the TV tuner is 5G0 972 136

I also know there are different letter variants of the TV tuner with a, b etc at the end of the part number. For different countries maybe? 

Also see here for the little screws etc. you need

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/rdw/golf+variant+4motion/golf/2016-746/0/035-35070/#2

I think in a right hand drive car the sound amplifier (if you have it) is under the passenger seat, and TV tuner under the driver seat. 

Do you think all 4x antennas are needed or is it just the right one for your country? 

 

You are correct the cover is  5G0972136  the other is for Canton amplifier, must have copy pasted the wrong part as they are next to each other , but the antennas i think  i´m correct.

The antennas can be 3v5035577B,3v5035577C,3v5035577D,3v5035577G

 

Edited by Camarao69

On 26/03/2021 at 15:37, Camarao69 said:

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You are correct the cover is  5G0972136  the other is for Canton amplifier, must have copy pasted the wrong part as they are next to each other , but the antennas i think  i´m correct.

The antennas can be 3v5035577B,3v5035577C,3v5035577D,3v5035577G

 

My skoda parts guy doesn't know a lot about it, but he told me he doesn't have version b on his system, but c says TV, and versions d and g say "FFB", and when he researched FFB, it means force feedback. I'm trying to understand do you need 1xc, 1xd and 1xg? Or 3x version d would work? Portuguese guy on the MIB2 telegram group sent me the diagram below, although it's based on the audi part numbers 4m0035225k, 4m0035225H, 4m0035225J, it looks like you need 3x different ones

 

So far I have bought 3v5 035 577 c and 4m0035225k. I don't think it matters so much if the parts are audi or vw or skoda, more important to understand the letters at the end for each. I'm starting to research and understand better

This list of parts for q7/bentayga tells more detail about regions etc

https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/en-gb/part-finder/bentley/bentayga/oe/338/2091/36813?h=278016

 

And I'm trying to understand the options codes, i discovered this is what they mean

 

 

ER1RCORegional code " ECE " for radioER2RCORegional code " ROW " for radioER3RCORegional code " NAR " for radioER4RCORegional codeER5RCORegional code " Japan " for radioER6RCORegional code " China " for radioER7RCORegional code " Korea " for radioER8RCORegional code " Taiwan " for radioER9RCORegional code " Rest of Asia " for radio

 

ER1
RCOER1RCORegional code " ECE " for radioER2RCORegional code " ROW " for radioER3RCORegional code " NAR " for radioER4RCORegional codeER5RCORegional code " Japan " for radioER6RCORegional code " China " for radioER7RCORegional code " Korea " for radioER8RCORegional code " Taiwan " for radioER9RCORegional code " Rest of Asia " for radio
Regional code " ECE " for radio
ER2
RCO
Regional code " ROW " for radio
ER3
RCO
Regional code " NAR " for radio
ER4
RCO
Regional code
ER5
RCO
Regional code " Japan " for radio
ER6
RCO
Regional code " China " for radio
ER7
RCO
Regional code " Korea " for radio
ER8
RCO
Regional code
" Taiwan " for radio
ER9
RCO
Regional code " 

QU0

TVE

SAT radio reception

QU1

TVE

TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception

QU2

TVE

TV reception

QU3

TVE

TV reception (China)

QU4

TVE

Satellite radio reception NAR integrated in device

QU5

TVE

T

-

DMB Tuner (South Korea)

QU6

TVE

Digital radio reception and TV reception

QU7

TVE

Digital TV reception

QU8

TVE

Satellite radio reception USA

QV0

TVE

W/o TV reception/digital radio reception

QV1

TVE

TV reception

QV2

TVE

TV reception for Japa

n

QV3

TVE

Digital radio reception

QV4

TVE

Satellite radio reception USA

QV5

TVE

TV reception and digital radio reception

QV6

TVE

Preparation for digital radio reception

QV7

TVE

TV reception and preparation for digitalradio reception

QV8

TVE

Satellite

radio reception NAR

QV9

TVE

TV reception analog and digital reception

 

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Edited by AlVal

Formatted for ease of reading.

 

These aerial amplifiers will work, I just need to be sure of a) which of the 3x sockets (2 green , 1 brown) on the back of the tv tuner are meant for AM, FM, and TV?

 

Secondly, we need to have a parts grid based on the PR codes for these parts for the superb like the one I've made below for Audi to understand the exact part numbers, what they do, for what regions, and the differences between them.

 

 

 

Q7/Q8/Bentayga

4M0 035 225        AM/FM. Digital Radio Reception. Regions: ECE, ROW, NAR, Mexico, China, Korea, Taiwan
4M0 035 225 A        FM. Digital Radio Reception. Regions: ECE, ROW, NAR, Mexico, China, Korea, Taiwan
4M0 035 225 B        AM/FM. Digital Radio Reception. Regions: Japan
4M0 035 225 C        FM. Digital Radio Reception. Regions: Japan
4M0 035 225 D        TV. TV reception. Regions: Korea
4M0 035 225 D        TV - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception. Regions: ROW
4M0 035 225 E        AM/FM/TV - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception Regions: Japan
4M0 035 225 F        FM/TV - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception. Regions: Japan
4M0 035 225 G        TV - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception. Regions: Japan
4M0 035 225 H        AM/FM/TV. Regions: ECE, ROW, NAR, Mexico, China, Taiwan - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception
4M0 035 225 J        FM/TV. Regions: ECE, ROW, NAR, Mexico, China, Taiwan - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception
4M0 035 225 K        TV. Regions: ECE, ROW, NAR, Mexico, China, Taiwan - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception

 

Superb:

 

3v5035577        AM/FM. Digital Radio Reception. Regions?

3v3035577A       FM

3v5035577B        AM/FM/TV - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception. Regions?

3v5035577C        TV - TV reception. Regions?

3v5035577D        TV - TV reception, TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception. Regions?

3V5035577E        TV - TV reception analog/digital and digital radio reception. Regions?

3V5035577F        Digital radio reception

3v5035577G       TV Reception, WIthout TV reception/digital radio reception

 

I don't understand how pr codes QV0 Without TV reception/digital radio reception and QV1 TV reception can be both applied on the same part, unless in this case the QV0 is to clarify that it doesn't cover DAB

 

3v5035577D  seems to be the skoda equivalent of audi 4M0 035 225 K , so based on the russian experience, I'm going to go with "D" in socket "1" of the tv tuner. Socket 2 would then likewise need a 3v5035577B, socket 3, dunno...

 


 

Edited by AlVal

I think you have covered every thing, I'm confused about the final letters . 

I'm Portuguese too, can you please share with me who is the Portuguese guy ?

If i remenber correctly i think i found a vcds map of a superb with tv , maybe that can help us.

  • 2 weeks later...

This guy didn't really know what he was talking about, as he didn't understand how part numbers work, so I stopped taking his advice.

 

Also the aliexpress harness is not perfect. mine arrived. it has nothing designed to connect to the green double-fakra coax aerial connector on the tuner, it has 3x coax aerial cables all right, one too short to get to the back of the superb, another tied in along with the cables that go to the headunit  (maybe in the golf one of the aerials is near the head unit?), so it's definitely not perfect for the superb. I will probably still use it to get from the tuner to the headunit, and one of the coax fakra cables is probably good.

 

I started fitting the tuner unit today.

 

start by putting the drivers seat (right hand drive car) all the way back, and also as high as the seat will go.

 

then

 

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Hello

I´m waiting for the cable , the Dokiauto seller said that the cable was going to be customized to the superb , i advertised him that the tuner was under the driver seat and it was not the same as the Golf.

LOL now you have confused because of the images you car is Left hand drive correct ? So it is the driver seat too  for LFD , but the harness must be a little different because i think the amplifiers are in the same spot for LHD and RHD.

Thanks for tutorial.

 

2 hours ago, Camarao69 said:

Hello

I´m waiting for the cable , the Dokiauto seller said that the cable was going to be customized to the superb , i advertised him that the tuner was under the driver seat and it was not the same as the Golf.

LOL now you have confused because of the images you car is Left hand drive correct ? So it is the driver seat too  for LFD , but the harness must be a little different because i think the amplifiers are in the same spot for LHD and RHD.

Thanks for tutorial.

 

Mine's right hand drive (UK) , so in my case under the drivers seat 😊

On 12/04/2021 at 20:21, AlVal said:

Mine's right hand drive (UK) , so in my case under the drivers seat 😊

Well now i am confused in my car LHD the tv tuner must be placed in the passenger seat as the braket is the same so it must be under the right seat. LHD or RHD the parts are the same. One thing i think I'm in luck its very near the mib unit, yours is on the other side, is you most cable long enough ?

8 hours ago, Camarao69 said:

Well now i am confused in my car LHD the tv tuner must be placed in the passenger seat as the braket is the same so it must be under the right seat. LHD or RHD the parts are the same. One thing i think I'm in luck its very near the mib unit, yours is on the other side, is you most cable long enough 

So for you it's a bigger problem when you fit the amplifier 😂

 

You are correct, I need to buy another hour on erwin to understand how to remove trim parts around dashboard to get the cable across, maybe first I should test if the cable is long enough just sitting loose on top of dashboard... I didn't think about the lhd/RHD cable length difference

 

3 hours ago, AlVal said:

So for you it's a bigger problem when you fit the amplifier 😂

 

You are correct, I need to buy another hour on erwin to understand how to remove trim parts around dashboard to get the cable across, maybe first I should test if the cable is long enough just sitting loose on top of dashboard... I didn't think about the lhd/RHD cable length difference

 

Do you meen the canton amplifier or the amplifiers for the antennas  ?

 

Do you have VC ?  If so maybe you can tap the most  there.

On 14/04/2021 at 11:08, Camarao69 said:

Do you meen the canton amplifier or the amplifiers for the antennas  ?

 

Do you have VC ?  If so maybe you can tap the most  there.

I meant audi amplifier, if you ever fit that, the cables will be harder for you but easier for me 😂

I will be doing VC but will take me some time before that, to buy mib2.5 etc. First. Anyway its not just most, you still need to bring another wire to the radio unit.

  • 2 weeks later...

I have almost all the parts , i'm only missing the antena amplifiers.

Have you made any progress ?

One word of caution to all those wanting this function. We have a March 2016 model and whilst the TV is really great to have, the picture quality is, to be frank, utterly abysmal; it’s SD and a very poor SD at that, so please bear that in mind before you spend more time and effort to retro fit this. It also doesn’t help that there are practically no picture adjustments either. That said, it was great to have DVD (remember those?!)  function whilst waiting for a ferry at Holyhead which had been delayed for 6 hours - wizzed though half of S3 of The West Wing! 

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