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Apparently in EU the MY20 Kodiaqs will have an option for TPMS direct (wheel pressure sensors) over the TPMS-indirect (use ABS sensors, measure wheel RPM).

 

If you get the bits it works fine in the MY19s too.

 

5Q0907273B - Controller module thingy

4x 5Q0907275B - Wheel pressure sensor thingies

 

I tapped off the CAN-bus-extended from the rear 'I can't be bothered doing a head check' radar controller.

 

You need ODIS-E or Vag Can Pro for the initial setup to load in the tyre profiles and pressures (I just put in what was on the tyre placard (fuel filler flap).  I used a Chinese VAS6514 and ODIS-E 8.1.something and getting it installed with the right driver etc was very painful.

 

I used this excellent tool to generate the XML file that was then uploaded via ODIS-E: http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/joltcoke/rdks-tool/master/generator.html

 

The instructions were in Spanish, by a chap called XAGICO.  If you Bing that you'll find the PDF.

 

I seem to have an issue where the front-passenger sensor comes and goes.  I suspect it's a signal strength problem as the other 3 work fine and the front passenger is furthest from the controller module antenna.  I'll try to reorient the controller.

 

Would I do it again?  Nah, the ones with the little screen in the ciggy-lighter socket work fine (SteelMate has some good ones) and are zero effort (had this in my Superb).  ODIS-E scares me (it's an incomprehensible mess UI wise; I think the same people who did IBM Notes did the ODIS UI) and when I flashed the XML file pretty much every warning light came up on the dash and the car beeped and bonged and carried on.

 

You are permitted to make fun of me for using PSI instead of bar.

 

 

 

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Forgot to mention, controller mounted against the sheetmetal that is just forward of the rear bumper, on the drivers side (this is on the right-side here in 'straya).  There was an existing hole I put two 3mm bolts through.

 

The plastic bracket is the genuine one 3G0907538 (for a Passat or Arteon and doesn't actually factory-fit anywhere to the Kodiaq that I could find) but you don't need it, you could zip-tie the controller on or something like that.

 

It needs terminal 30 (unswitched power), not terminal 15 (ignition switched power).  The lane change radar has terminal 15 so you'll need to run your own unswitched power to the module somehow.  I had it in the boot already for other projects, so I just used that, out a spare grommet thats under the bumper-right-side and to the controller.  I did try it on terminal 15 and it just logs 'module missing' sort of errors in VCDS and doesn't work at all.

 

 

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Annoying that there's no option for 255/40R20 for those with the Ignites, my MY20 with factory direct TPMS is the same.

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34 minutes ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

Annoying that there's no option for 255/40R20 for those with the Ignites, my MY20 with factory direct TPMS is the same.

 

@ZacDaMan72

http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/joltcoke/rdks-tool/master/generator.html

 

^^ this website generates the XML that is uploaded by ODIS-E.  You put in whatever you want.  I just put in what was on the tyre placard.  I'm thinking of adjusting them a bit as I tend to run higher pressures that what is on the placard.

 

You can have up to 10 options for tyres / pressures and the name (that is shown int he menu) is free text, I just put in the tyre sizes.  You could use "My tires" or "purple monkey dishwasher" or whatever you want.

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Too bad you need ODIS-E or VCP, I only have VCDS.

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45 minutes ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

Too bad you need ODIS-E or VCP, I only have VCDS.

 

Yep, and now I've done this mod I don't need ODIS-E any more (phew, it's a mess).

 

in theory (not tested), by placing the controller in service mode, you can specify 1 set of pressures manually using VCDS.  Not sure if it logs a fault due to being in service mode etc.

 

It's alluded to here: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Passat_(3C)_Tire_Pressure_Monitoring

 

Mine did log these until I uploaded the XML file. Specifically, the invalid data record from the controller (means no XML file uploaded) causes the errors in instruments.  I suspect these codes would persist if the controller was in service mode.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3

1 Fault Found:
13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
          U1014 00 [008] - -
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 273 B    HW: 5Q0 907 273 

1 Fault Found:
12652550 - invalid data record 
          B2005 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

 

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Hi can you help me with upload xml file to unit over ODIS-E (version 12.2.0)

 

010-Data Transfer - 010.01 Write data set

 

I try upload xml generate over link github and still have error ODS6922E.

 

(Kodiaq SK37X)

 

 in ODIS-E disable EXPECTED-IDENTS and setup in 009 - Diagnostic Session to EOL and Perform

 

Can you help me?

 

only one step is different, when I select 010.01 Write data set pops up this message

 

 

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Please can you help what I do wrong??

 

Thank you

 

 

 

Problem solved, I just setup Vehicle project to VW48X and upload succesfull.

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