I'd like to change my headlight bulbs, I like the look of the Philips Extreme Vision.

I cannot ascertain the fitting type for my estate, I thought it was H7 but my local

shop says no, something about twin headlights? Its a Monte Carlo 1L 110ps 2019

I get the feeling that if it ain't Ford they know nothing about it.

 

Edited 12 February, 20206 yr by gumdrop

6 hours ago, gumdrop said:

I'd like to change my headlight bulbs, I like the look of the Philips Extreme Vision.

I cannot ascertain the fitting type for my estate, I thought it was H7 but my local

shop says no, something about twin headlights? Its a Monte Carlo 1L 110ps 2019

I get the feeling that if it ain't Ford they know nothing about it.

 

 

Does it have Projector or Reflector headlight unit?

 

I believe it's the same options as it was, just a slightly different shaped headlight unit, Projector = H7, Reflector = H4. Full beams are the same as the dipped beams as far as i'm aware.

 

The main thing to consider is that they are H7 or H4 bulbs, they have to adhere to whatever regulations there are for light output etc.

They all output the same quantity of light, i.e lumens, 1500 for the H7 (not looked what H4's are).

What differs is the color temperature, higher colour temperatures give the appearance of brighter (in reality it's just whiter, more towards the blue end of the spectrum) at the expense of burning the fillament out faster.

 

Osram Night Braker Lasers (+250% or some rubbish) were marginally better and less of the standard halogen yellow, but they lasted barely a year, the original bulbs were back in till i found something better, they do the job just fine.

 

If you want to go for a real upgrade. Get some aftermarket custom bulbs, 65w H9 bulb on a H7 fitting, 2100 lumens.

 

Now my friend, i just got a pair, and they are BRIGHT. At first i put just a single one in to test the difference, it is HUGE! I got so excited i didn't think to take pictures. But man, they are BRIGHT, they actually light up the road properly.

Being behind projectors, i don't see them having any issues with MOT, they went through a major service fine where i asked them to check the headlight alignment (erring on the side of caution) and it came back as perfect.

They may be noticable if you have reflector headlights, but those are H4 anyway, so you can't use these anyway.

 

https://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html#H765

 

The extra 10w hasn't caused any issues with wiring or damaged the headlight unit itself, just far far brighter (40% more lumens, rather than same lumens but faster dying bulbs).

They are technically off-road only, and considerably more expensive. But they are also far cheaper than a decent LED setup (which are also technically off-road only, unless your car was fitted with them from factory), and probably better too. No need for coding them in, just stuck em in and they work, very nice and brightly.

Edited 12 February, 20206 yr by FabiaGonzales

Does it have Projector or Reflector headlight unit?

I was rather hoping someone could tell me!

 

12 hours ago, FabiaGonzales said:

65w H9 bulb on a H7 fitting

Do not take this advice; the poster has just admitted to using illegally powerful bulbs!

16 minutes ago, gumdrop said:

Does it have Projector or Reflector headlight unit

It could have either, based on the information you've supplied.

21 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

It could have either, based on the information you've supplied.

So what further information is required?

2 hours ago, gumdrop said:

So what further information is required?

A photo of one of the headlights would help.

1 hour ago, gumdrop said:

So what further information is required?

Either, a picture of the headlight unit in question.

Or, just look at one of your headlight units, if you see two big radar dishes. They're reflector. If one looks like a radar dish, and the other looks like the lens of an eye, then it's projector.
 

Yes those bulbs i mention are not road legal, "off-road or race use only" is the term commonly used, but neither are led bulbs fitted to a car which did not originally have LEDs, they maintain the correct beam pattern, and unless you look at them side by side it's not noticeable that it's brighter. Only when you are on the road at night and visibility is much improved.

Osram Night Breaker Lazers +250% and philips extreme or whatever barely made a difference, except the bulbs lasted shorter, and the light was whiter, but not actually brighter. 1500 lumens is still 1500 lumens.

 

If you do get those H9 on H7 bulbs, please make sure the beam pattern is correct after fitting them. I get dazzled far more often by badly angled old halogen reflector headlights than anything else combined. Man, new range rovers have REALLY bright led units! Even those put my off-road bulbs to shame 😂
 

MOT testers don't check the output intensity of the lights. They simply check beam pattern and make sure all lights are functional. Even LEDs will pass if they have the correct beam pattern.

With reflectors you can usually see the bulb from the front of the car (Probably like the High Beam style)

With projectors the bulb is behind the 'eye' lens, as F....G....... says, so you cannot see the bulb.

 

Is it difficult to remove a bulb to check??? (I don't have a Fabia)

3 hours ago, Tilt said:

With reflectors you can usually see the bulb from the front of the car (Probably like the High Beam style)

With projectors the bulb is behind the 'eye' lens, as F....G....... says, so you cannot see the bulb.

 

Is it difficult to remove a bulb to check??? (I don't have a Fabia)

 

The bulbs are a PITA to remove.

I can see both bulbs clearly, sitting in side by side recessed reflectors.

so these are what type of bulb?

Thank you all for your help,

I loved my Yetis but am rapidly going off this Fabia!

3 hours ago, gumdrop said:

I can see both bulbs clearly, sitting in side by side recessed reflectors.

so these are what type of bulb?

Thank you all for your help,

I loved my Yetis but am rapidly going off this Fabia!

Those are H4 bulbs. They're also not too easy to remove, if you ask your dealer kindly theyll probably help you out. If you get your own bulbs (osram night breakers or similar) tell them you accept the risk there is no warranty or liability on their part if they fail. Others on here have done the same.

 

if you get non-road-legal ones such as led ones or those H9 on H7 ones, they won't go near them.

Thanks very much

If your headlight is like the photo here I don't think the bulbs are H4 but H7. H4 are twin filament, H7 are single filament. You should be able to see which it is by just looking at them. The earlier reflector headlights only had one bulb, an H4, but these have 2 reflectors with, I suspect, separate H7 bulbs for main and dip. 

That does indeed look like the headlight of my Fabia so now the bulbs are H7 which is where I started 🙂

Skoda must be the most owner unfriendly car maker ever.

41 minutes ago, gumdrop said:

That does indeed look like the headlight of my Fabia so now the bulbs are H7 which is where I started 🙂

Skoda must be the most owner unfriendly car maker ever.

Do have a look at the filaments before you buy, just in case they have done something wierd like one of those is a sidelight, they both look like H7s though as the H4s have a bigger bulb envelope.

That's a Fabia headlight? Looks more like a Scala one? Different grille and bumper too? I've seen a few 69/19 plate Fabias, and was recently at a dealer in the last month (sat and waited for major service, sigh, shoulda taken a sleeping bag), don't remember them looking like that. Maybe i don't notice them cos i don't recognise them as a Fabia 😂

 

Those may well be H7's in a dual reflector setup. Maybe they realised that H4's weren't bright enough, theyre only 1000 lumens, even 1500 from the H7's isn't amazing (1600 H4 full beam).

 

I checked through multiple parts sites, and they all show the same single H4 reflector, or the H7 projector + reflector. I thought the facelift was only projector or led. No reflector anymore?

 

Why are we going backwards to damn reflector headlights? the number of cockstains that i wanna brake check because they put dumbass HIDs or LEDs in their "cool" looking 2001 ford fiesta that have zero proper light pattern at all and are now blinding anything that's in front of them.. ugh. At least projectors maintain the proper light pattern.

 

If manufacturers actually put out proper, helpful information it would be nice. That said, it *might* be in the manual. Though my car has stuff that isn't in the manual, so heck knows!

 

Here's mine for comparison.

Hoy! (insert suitable CZ persons name) I have just found a few new, old stock, headlights in the stores,

graft them onto the next 50 Fabia's. We will hail them as a facelift model, some mug will buy them.

No don't bother telling the technical writers to put instructions in the handbooks the clever people at

Briskoda will sort it out eventually. Tea break!

5 minutes ago, gumdrop said:

Hoy! (insert suitable CZ persons name) I have just found a few new, old stock, headlights in the stores,

graft them onto the next 50 Fabia's. We will hail them as a facelift model, some mug will buy them.

No don't bother telling the technical writers to put instructions in the handbooks the clever people at

Briskoda will sort it out eventually. Tea break!

Not true, though, the facelift headlights are a different shape to fit the changed grille.

Not true, though, the facelift headlights are a different shape to fit the changed grille.

 

Oh! they also had 50 matching grills 🙂