Edited 17 February, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

I am starting to window shop for a small EV to order later in the year from Motability.

The shortages and advance payments will have lots to do with what i might go for.  I would like an Estate so that would be a bit bigger, MG or Astra Estate probably as that is all there might be.

Must be able to do 200 miles in cold weather though and the Vauxhall probably will not.

End of May is the soonest i can order anything.

 

I want Matrix lights, heated seats, heated steering wheel, physical and sensible buttons and placements & comfortable for me,

so accelerator the pedal needs to be usable with my left foot, that means many cars are not suitable.

Easy in easy out if an upright / hard seat is not what suits me anymore.

 

No BLACK SHINY PLASTIC INSIDE OR OUT.  Rules the MG4 out.

Wheels that can have tyres with some sidewall and that All Season /All Weather Winter tyres can go on as low profile or EV ECO tyres are sh!te IMO.

 

 

 

 

This quarter there is nothing i would want to go for, so will be watch the next 2 quarters with interest from what Motability have as deals with manufacturers. 

 

Edited 13 January, 20233 yr by toot

2 hours ago, toot said:

  I would like an Estate so that would be a bit bigger, MG or Astra Estate probably as that is all there might be.

 

What about the e-2008 Estate George?

 

 

Not too big, not too small.

 

Gaz

 

Even with the battery with supposedly more capacity if that comes the the range is pathetic in the cold, then the cockpit and controls and steering wheel are horrible.  Shiny plastic to scratch everyplace.    The Astra EV estate  might be no better but it will not be worse.   PS, they are a crossover not an estate no idea why they put that.  The Citroen C4 electric actually a better car IMO, funnily can go a bit further which is odd considering the same platform and weight, wheels / tyres etc.   18" ones do work on the bigger cars,  45kW capacity batteries are not enough and even when they have the updates at 48 kW usable that is hopeless if you get 3.2-3.5 miles a kWh and not the 4 miles kidology figure.  Peugeot showing 4.75 miles is ridiculous. 

 

Actually calculating is not the best of plans.

 

The Range is brutally honest until the Software Update gets done and then it will not tell you that you maybe were getting 3 miles per kW, so x 45 you might get 135, if lucky.  It will charge to 98 or 99 % or 100 if you wait long enough and show 180 or 190 miles as it did when the car came off a transporter and got charged the first time. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 13 January, 20233 yr by toot

It will be interesting to find out even in the least power mode and most regen just how far they can go,

Also just how hard the suspension is on bad road surfaces.

Certainly no Cloak of Invisibility coming with the early models. 

 I would be happy enough with one in Tech Grey and 17" rims. Only issue is i do not fit in them...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A PHEV would be ideal for me since i can charge at home and when just local driving i could pretty much just run on electric.

If the Manufacturers can build very efficient PHEV,s or Range Extender EV,s then that will be great. 

 

What they will build and sell might well have to change sooner rather than later.  

The important thing is that if the battery is not being charged the car should be efficient and low emission while running on petrol or diesel.

But then the WLTP type testing is just not fit for purpose.

 

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He keeps on about Home Charging.  Important, but it is not just HOME or PUBLIC CHARGING, there is ANOTHER WAY.

Well if he was to think on and 'Work Place charging'  for those going back and fore to work, and it was Business Users that were very much at the front of the queue for PHEV,s for Grants and BIK because those available, even where the PHEV might not get charged.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

 

 

 

Family has found the Clio full hybrid very easy to live with. Only 55 mpg in winter and with its 39 litre tank only 420 mile range in the winter time. More like 65 mpg on summer and some hypermilers have been getting 80 mpg plus 

 

Really nice to drive with the 100 hp or so electric motor providing good torque and the 1.6 naturally aspirated engine good motorway experience and all for around 22k it was. Of course will not be great deals new as dealers want to sell electric ie Renault 5 to hit their mandate and that would be at similar monthly cost.

 

Edited 9 February, 20251 yr by lol-lol