Inoperative Remote Control

[Imhotep_61]

Hello,

Sorry for my bad English.

My car 2001 Fabia MK1 1.4 16v AUB 6Y2

Remote controls do not work. No immobilizer problem. The batteries are also new. The red led on the door flashes when you lock the doors manually. VCDS codes are as follows:
What can be the problem?

Chassis Type: 6Y (6Y - Skoda Fabia (1996 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 55 56 76
 
VIN: TMBND46Y313138579   Mileage: 215340km-133806miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 036-906-034-APE.lbl
   Part No: 036 906 034 BK
   Component:  MARELLI 4LV       3335   
   Coding: 00071
   Shop #: WSC 00006  
   

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 907 379 H
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.7 FRONT   V40  
   Coding: 00124
   Shop #: WSC 13765  
   VCID: 428BFF0F4E8FD85FCF-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
   Part No: 6Y0 820 045 
   Component: Klimaanlage        X0760  
   VCID: 72EB6FCF3EAF28DF9F-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 6Qx-937-049-B.lbl
   Part No: 6Q1 937 049 
   Component: BORDNETZ-SG.        1S30  
   Coding: 09362
   Shop #: WSC 13765  
   VCID: 78FF5DE758D3428FA1-515A

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 601 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW5       0004  
   Coding: 12338
   Shop #: WSC 13765  
   VCID: 3365AACB013561D754-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 6Yx-9xx-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 6Y1 919 880 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDO V08  
   Coding: 16142
   Shop #: WSC 00006  
   VCID: 4581E4135FA1EF67EA-5178
   TMBND46Y313138579     SKZ7Z0Y0656746

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    1S30  
   Coding: 00014
   Shop #: WSC 13765  
   VCID: 70EF65C730A31ACF69-5178

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6Q0 423 156 E
   Component: Lenkhilfe           0001  
   Coding: 00150
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 3169A0C3FB2953C726-515A

No fault code found.

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[VWD]

No expert, but I'd be looking to see if remote is sending. HOW ? Simple-  aim remote at phone camera and look for the Infra red(IR) ( will be seen as WHITE light on camera) flash on camera. To check if camera sees this ,you can also use any REMOTE control ( TV/ Set top box/VCR ) device to ensure that camera sees the IR FLASH. As a nice addition, most mobile phone cameras will also see any operational beams from Average speed cameras.

After that , it's down to those that have /understand remotes as my car relies on me unlocking doors.

[Imhotep_61]

Denetleyici Kızılötesi olmadığından bu yöntem geçerli değildir. Uzaktan kumanda radyo sinyali ile çalışır.
Teşekkür ederim.

Denetleyici Kızılötesi olmadığından bu yöntem geçerli değildir. Uzaktan kumanda radyo sinyali ile çalışır.
Teşekkür ederim.

This method is not valid because the controller is not Infrared. Remote Control works with radio signal.
Thank you.

[Breezy_Pete]

What version of VCDS are you using to do the scan? It has picked up errors at address 09 for things I wouldn't expect your car to have - G85 and J492 - but hasn't scanned the module that I would expect to be relevant to Remote central locking, Address 46: Central Convenience, (unless you missed that part from what you've posted?)

 

Maybe there's a fuse blown so it couldn't 'see' that module?

[Imhotep_61]

VCDS version 19.6.1
Address 46 or 35 does not appear.
I access the settings related to the lock from a different address. (I couldn't remember now, I think Address: 09 Channel: It was 021.)
2 keys appear in the immobilizer area. Pressing the TEST button says "ERROR". "ERROR" when trying to make the number of keys "3"
If there is a fuse of module 46 or 35, where is it?

[KenONeill]

@Imhotep_61 - Does the LED on the key (not the door) light when you press the (un)lock button? If not, then you almost certainly need a new battery in the key,

[Breezy_Pete]

For The Convenience electric central control unit, check fuse 49 (15 Amp);  not sure what address 35 is.

 

Mk1 Fabia Cabin Fuses.pdf

Edited 3 March, 2020 by Wino

[Imhotep_61]

Key 2 button
Button 1: LOCK
Button 2: UNLOCK
There is no led in the switch.
Address: 09 (6Q1 937 049) and Address: 46 are the same comfort module? The VCDS I have only sees Address: 09.

[Breezy_Pete]

No, not same module.

[Breezy_Pete]

This is the one responsible for locking systems (and alarm if fitted):

 

[Imhotep_61]

I checked the fuses. No problem.
Where is the module in the picture located in the car?

[Breezy_Pete]

On right-hand drive it's above the clutch pedal, so on left hand drive I think it must be above accelerator pedal.

[Imhotep_61]

Thanks for your help. I will check the socket connections on the weekend.
"09: Cent.Elect. Coding: 09362" is it correct?
+00001 = Trailer Hitch installed
+00002 = Trunk Lid Remote Unlocking installed
+00004 = Electric Load Management active
+00008 = Interior Light Control
+00016 = 4-door Chassis
+00032 = Heated Front Seats installed
+00064 = Heated Front Windshield installed
+00128 = Heated Mirrors installed
+00256 = Headlight Washers installed
+00512 = Rain Sensor installed
+01024 = Trunk Lid Remote Unlocking impulse driven
+08192 = Rear Windshield Wiper with Comfort Function installed
+16384 = Electric Fuel Pump Releay installed
Should I code as 16384 + 8192 + 1024 + 128 + 16 + 8 = 25752?

[Imhotep_61]

[Breezy_Pete]

Not sure. I don't know what the difference is between 00002 and 01024, and I think maybe 16384 refers to the fuel feed relay (activated by opening driver's door) which I don't think your car will have.  The fuel pump relay (J17) is fitted to all cars so I can't see why that would be a selectable option.

[sepulchrave]

Is it possible that your car has central locking but not remote central locking fitted?

Has remote locking ever worked or are you trying to enable it?

[Imhotep_61]

+00002 = Trunk Lid Remote Unlocking installed
+00016 = 4-door Chassis
+00128 = Heated Mirrors installed
+01024 = Trunk Lid Remote Unlocking impulse driven
+08192 = Rear Windshield Wiper with Comfort Function installed
8192 + 1024 + 128 + 16 + 2 = 09362 current code

I will not change. You are right. The interior lights are on when the driver's door is opened. When the ignition is switched on with the key, the fuel pump runs for 5 seconds.

[Imhotep_61]

I will try the method in the link:  

I will write the result.

[Imhotep_61]

2 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

Is it possible that your car has central locking but not remote central locking fitted?

Has remote locking ever worked or are you trying to enable it?

There was a remote control and it was working. Then he stopped working intermittently. And the remote control is completely dead.

[sepulchrave]

Ok, the modules dead then, it's probably not worth spending the time and money on it, just use the key to lock it.

[makymak]

Sure it's a genuine remote control and not a generic? If so, on a left hand drive the control unit is above the acceleration pedal, as Wino said. When mine was dead also the interior lights were dead (lhd, too)! 

[Imhotep_61]

14 hours ago, makymak said:

Sure it's a genuine remote control and not a generic? If so, on a left hand drive the control unit is above the acceleration pedal, as Wino said. When mine was dead also the interior lights were dead (lhd, too)! 

Both remote controls are original. I will check the control unit at the weekend.

[34stu]

Hi, have similar problems on another VAG group car so interested to see how this. is resolved.

To help connect to the central convenience  control  module with VCDS try disconnecting the car battery then reconnecting to power cycle the module. This worked on a VW polo where  VCDS shows 'no response from the conttroller' .
 

[34stu]

If you are able to connect to the Central convenience module with VCDS after the power cycle it might be worth following the instructions for pairing the remote key fobs as per item 9.4 in this post

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do-yourself/169586-vw-polo-diy-upgrading-bcm-body-control-module.html

 i will try this  method next week as it’s different to that described on the Ross Tech website. Let me know how you get on.

[Imhotep_61]

I removed the battery. I waited for 30 minutes. Then I connect it again. The remote control did not work again. I was connected to the car with VCDS. Failed to login to module 46 (Central convenience). I gave up.😡😢

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