On 15/06/2020 at 04:47, Simon1fa said:

Hi, I have a 2013 Skoda Yeti that cane with after market rims which fit tyre 225/45/18. These are quite low profile and not ideal when we go away.  This involves towing a small boat up steep gravel sections.  We want to get some gruntier 4wd tyres so am thinking of getting a second set of rims maybe from wrecking yard.

 

I'm not really sure what you mean by 'gruntier' - grippier maybe. Gruntier, to me, suggests a higher load rating, where grippier suggests a different compound (usually) that has more grip. Up to a point, you can also get more grip by fitting wider tyres, although with some patterns that may make aquaplaning worse.

 

I don't know what the administrative situation is in New Zealand, but here fitting aftermarket rims is likely to increase the cost of your insurance. Some insurance companies will even refuse to insure something not on the rim pattern that the car was originally supplied with, but that's the extreme approach, and you probably didn't want to be with that insurance company, anyway.

 

You can usually find what tyre sizes a car might have been fitted with originally by checking the tyre pressure tables in either the User manual or in the fuel flap. (BTW, the text in the Octavia flap about Winter tyre pressures seems to be ******. Use the standard pressures, as far as I can tell.)

 

On 18/06/2020 at 05:47, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Schtum

 

My new EV Corsa also has Primacy fitted, but the Launch car i drove had Michelin Pilot Sport fitted.  I have driven 2 demonstrators sister cars as in Peugeot e-208 & e-Corsa and i was disappointed in the difference with the ECO tyres on.

 

The Primacy isn't even Michelin's ECO tyre. It is more their 'mainstream' option, with  something from the Pilot Sport sub-brand (eg PS4) as the more sporting option. 

 

On 18/06/2020 at 13:16, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Schtum

 

They have changed in over the decade plus.

There are new Skoda now with Michelin Primacy 5's fitted.

(EDIT, Doh, i cant see where someone last week said their new car have Primacy 5 on it, maybe that was a typo. Not out yet.)

 

or maybe winter time if you keep on what comes as 'all season / all year tyres' but certainly not that good in all weathers.

 

Those used to a Yeti FWD or AWD that has good tyres fitted will notice soon enough if the Primacy that some EV's / Hybrids are coming with are any good, or driving with even more care than normal is required.

 

Most tyres will have changed a lot over that period. Often these are minor revisions that cause no change to the tyre's designation. The are even some companies who make more major changes without updating the designation (Pirelli, I'm looking at you!).

 

The Prim 4 was released relatively recently, and I wouldn't expect a successor tyre until 12/24 months later, so don't hold your breath.

 

In the UK, 'Summer tyres' are habitually used for 12 months of the year. All season tyres are something else - more like the old M + S tyres. You might be confusing the OP by not making clear which you mean, as these terms might be used differently in NZ.

 

I've currently got 'winters' on my Octavia, and while they aren't bad tyres (I like them, overall), there is quite a trade-off in traction (both) over a set of summer tyres. Having said I like them, I'm sure all seasons would be more suitable for southern UK weather conditions, and more to my taste.

@Axle_of_weasels

 

The tyres, summer, winter, snow, wet weather, all season, all weather, all terrain, Mud & Snow / M&S and 3 peak  has been discussed often enough and the meaning and crossover gets lost in the translations.

Then there are the CrossClimates that are Summers and 3 peak certified and really have no downside. 

Now i have them on all year unless something more serious needs to go on in 'Winter'.

 

What arrives in the UK on cars even as All Seasons on SUV's and pretty much rubbish even just considered as summers in parts of the UK in rain & some are garbage come a winter and wintery weather / temperatures..

 

 

The Michelin that PSA have on the Peugeot, Vauxhall / Opel & DS EV's are not ECO in price if you needed to replace them, they are energy saving (to give better range) by having less friction / grip / road holding. 205/45 R 17, the cheaper models come with 16" 195's and the DS3 comes with 215 18's

This will be why journalists got to drive Media cars with Pilot Sports fitted. 

 

The tyres they arrive on are utter crap.

 

Luckily i get 'much cheapness' fitting Michelin's, CrossClimate, Alpins etc.

Something more suitable will need fitting for winter, and might as well be on in summer.

 

Edited 20 June, 20205 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot